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most skilled swordsman continued

Well as i was saying, I nominate Tsugikuni Yoriichi from demon slayer.

Yoriichi made the power system of his verse out of nothing with no reference points to boot to take advantage of or knowledge o take advantage from, revolutionizing sword combat with techniques and knowledge far surpassing the accumulated wisdom of the 500 year old demon slayer organization that stayed standing despite fighting nigh unkillable opponents for that much time,making techniques and basics that remained unchanged for the next centuries to come, all the while remaining the strongest and most skilled swordsmen in history.

Yoriichi was 7 years old when he first spoke and defeated the swordmaster who was teaching Koku, showcasing his talent, only to run away to avoid stealing the successor position from his brother running for an entire day before meeting Uta, whom he spent 10 years with before getting married.
When she died, Yoriichi spent 10 days crying over her corpse until the demon hunters found him and he decided to join them, he taught them breath techniques and forms, in this same panel he said "even my brother joined after his men were killed"

when did he meet his brother?

They met 10 years after Yoriichi ran away, and then he joined the hunters where before long he manifested a mark of his own, then we see muzan soon after that statement, whom Yoriichi stated he met soon after after Koku joined the hunters which happed 10 years later per his backstory.
A standard he reached while barely even holding a sword for some weeks to a month at best as a 17 year old whose only prior experience with wielding a sword is learning the basic stance when he was 7.

Basically becoming the most powerful and skilled swordsmen while barely doing anything and using his time to teach others breaths, sword forms and techniques, even achieving the pinnacle of sensory perception-the Transparent world- and a hallmark of a skilled swordsmen that even the best generation in 500 years of pillars were barely able to partially access as a 7 year old child at best (likely in his sparring match with the instructor) that alongside with him being hinted at having access to the selfless state at that time to boot.

He should be vastly more skilled than Giyu, who was able to spontaneously create a new technique to match Tanjiro's for the best synergy effect just from watching his slight movements, and Far better than Akaza, who has what could aptly be described as "aim bot" "aim dodge" "auto sens" "auto counterattack" with that compass of his.

Weakness Detection, Strength Perception, Precognition, Reactive Power Level, Enhanced Instinctive Reaction, Enhanced Awareness & Enhanced Accuracy with Compass Needle (Compass Needle allows him to accurately sense a person's Battle Spirit, allowing him to predict their movements, discern their location in his surroundings (even from his blind-spots), and find and instinctively aim for their weak points and vitals with such high accuracy that his attacks are described as "being attracted by magnets" and "clinging" to his opponents. Can tell someone's strength just by looking at them, was able to discern that Kyojuro was a Hashira at a glance. Can instinctively respond to attacks with an appropriate counter, was stated by Giyu to learn to anticipate his every move and strike back with equal accuracy as the fight went on. He can effectively fight and discern his surroundings and track his opponents without a head (deaf and blind) solely through detecting Battle Spirit)
To note Giyu was able to match and fight Akaza, so it seems even the pillars scale to this kinda thing.

there is also his 1500 flesh cuts thing, where Yoriichi managed to cut down 1500 out of 1800 pieces of Muzan exploding away from him, where he not only reacted to the speed of the pieces being explosively ejected away from his position at high speeds in many different directions, but also have to in a split second process the fact that Muzan just exploded, think about the fact that Muzan exploded and reach the conclusion that this is an escape tactic on Muzan's part and that every single piece needs to be cut down, perceive the explosion and track hundreds of fast-moving targets flying in random directions. calculate how many there were, note their position, move and calculate the most optimal path to cut the most ammount of peices possible and strike with precise blade control to hit each one cleanly, all this before the explosion could propel any of those 1500 pieces that he managed to cut outside of his reach, all the while quantifying their volume, managing to note that the 300 he let escape, if merged, would be roughly the size of a human head.



idk may add more later...maybe

edit: oh ye and he also scales above koku who managed to read Muichiro's genome and determine his ancestry in seconds...
 
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Well as i was saying, I nominate Tsugikuni Yoriichi from demon slayer.

Yoriichi made the power system of his verse out of nothing with no reference points to boot to take advantage of or knowledge o take advantage from, revolutionizing sword combat with techniques and knowledge far surpassing the accumulated wisdom of the 500 year old demon slayer organization that stayed standing despite fighting nigh unkillable opponents for that much time,making techniques and basics that remained unchanged for the next centuries to come, all the while remaining the strongest and most skilled swordsmen in history.

Yoriichi was 7 years old when he first spoke and defeated the swordmaster who was teaching Koku, showcasing his talent, only to run away to avoid stealing the successor position from his brother running for an entire day before meeting Uta, whom he spent 10 years with before getting married.
When she died, Yoriichi spent 10 days crying over her corpse until the demon hunters found him and he decided to join them, he taught them breath techniques and forms, in this same panel he said "even my brother joined after his men were killed"

when did he meet his brother?

They met 10 years after Yoriichi ran away, and then he joined the hunters where before long he manifested a mark of his own, then we see muzan soon after that statement, whom Yoriichi stated he met soon after after Koku joined the hunters which happed 10 years later per his backstory.
A standard he reached while barely even holding a sword for some weeks to a month at best as a 17 year old whose only prior experience with wielding a sword is learning the basic stance when he was 7.

Basically becoming the most powerful and skilled swordsmen while barely doing anything and using his time to teach others breaths, sword forms and techniques, even achieving the pinnacle of sensory perception-the Transparent world- and a hallmark of a skilled swordsmen that even the best generation in 500 years of pillars were barely able to partially access as a 7 year old child at best (likely in his sparring match with the instructor) that alongside with him being hinted at having access to the selfless state at that time to boot.

He should be vastly more skilled than Giyu, who was able to spontaneously create a new technique to match Tanjiro's for the best synergy effect just from watching his slight movements, and Far better than Akaza, who has what could aptly be described as "aim bot" "aim dodge" "auto sens" "auto counterattack" with that compass of his.


To note Giyu was able to match and fight Akaza, so it seems even the pillars scale to this kinda thing.

there is also his 1500 flesh cuts thing, where Yoriichi managed to cut down 1500 out of 1800 pieces of Muzan exploding away from him, where he not only reacted to the speed of the pieces being explosively ejected away from his position at high speeds in many different directions, but also have to in a split second process the fact that Muzan just exploded, think about the fact that Muzan exploded and reach the conclusion that this is an escape tactic on Muzan's part and that every single piece needs to be cut down, perceive the explosion and track hundreds of fast-moving targets flying in random directions. calculate how many there were, note their position, move and calculate the most optimal path to cut the most ammount of peices possible and strike with precise blade control to hit each one cleanly, all this before the explosion could propel any of those 1500 pieces that he managed to cut outside of his reach, all the while quantifying their volume, managing to note that the 300 he let escape, if merged, would be roughly the size of a human head.



idk may add more later...maybe

edit: oh ye and he also scales above koku who managed to read Muichiro's genome and determine his ancestry in seconds...
Low-key

Yujiro with a sword victim
 
Transparent world is more like a "special power" in Kimetsu and I don't think you can call it skill. It's like calling Gojo's Six Eye a skill feat
 
i mean
most ppl on this list can probs unlock tw in their sleep
If they can discard all other thoughts and even their sens of self only focusing on the most optimal movements removing all other unnecessary Sensory input by also discarding their other senses, maybe?

It requires more than being perfect given akaza with his aim bot couldn't really unlock it either, tho Yoriichi unlocked it without really even trying when he was 7 or below so eh.
 
Like this?
Concentrating his focus upon the starlight, Cecilus forgot to blink, to breathe, even to make his heart beat, and poured all of his energy into becoming one and the same with the Enchanted Sword. While he was doing so, the Witch seemed to be doing something to disrupt Cecilus’s focus, but—,

“Ha.”

Cecilus’s consciousness was singularly honed onto the radiance of the star. Thus, he would exclude absolutely anything and everything unnecessary for accomplishing that. Color and sound and smell and taste, the approaching earth, wind, fire and water, all were unconsciously excluded. —Arc 8, Chapter 65, "Starfall Upon the Imperial Capital"
 
Dante has actual skill feats beyond "Dodging omnipresent, inifinite speed attacks"??
No, I don't think so. Iirc there some shit saying that Royal Guard counters any technique but I don't remember anything impressive worth of "top 100 most skilled guys"
 
No, I don't think so. Iirc there some shit saying that Royal Guard counetrs any technique but I don't remember anything impressive worth of "top 100 most skilled guys"
I dont compute. You just posted one. Its not break your nuts level insane, but its a really good precision feat.
 
I really don't think transparent world counts for a skill feat for the criteria of this list. Dude was literally born with the demon slayer mark and transparent world off rip, he literally ignored the unlock conditions for the demon slayer mark. Which itself is a requirement to unlock transparent world meaning that, while it is impressive and all, you literally can't do it without using an in-verse power system.

Honestly I didn't include Goemon's Divine Eye which lets him see entire battles in a single moment or him having his foes literally see their incoming demise because of his training due to how that could be see as 'in-verse powers'. But if we are allowing that to get through then that opens a full list of weird abilities to be granted with far less stretching.
 
I really don't think transparent world counts for a skill feat for the criteria of this list. Dude was literally born with the demon slayer mark and transparent world off rip,
it wouldn't count if he was born with it, ye.

but he discovered the ability when he was young, eg he explicitly wasn't born with it, what i argued is awakening it is a skill feat given the requirements needed to do so are quite complicated, going by Tanjuro's description for it (Tanjiro's father).
also i don't really remember the mark being a requirement for it?
you sure it is?
 
but he discovered the ability when he was young, eh he explicitly wasn't born with it, what i argued is awakening it is a skill feat given the requirements needed to do so are quite complicated, going by Tanjuro's description for it (Tanjiro's father).
He only discovered it when he was young because that was when he had his first ever fight, so it's more of a 'first time he was in a scenario where it'd actually be used' rather than him having to do anything to actually gain it.

also i don't really remember the mark being a requirement for it?
you sure it is?
Yes it is, both the Demon Slayer wiki and our own directly state that it's a requirement. And I quote from our own Demon Slayer page

"From this mark spring two extraordinary powers:

  • Transparent World (透すき通とおる世せ界かい Sukitōru Sekai): A state of heightened perception where the world itself becomes crystal clear to the user's eyes. Living beings appear transparent, revealing the intricate dance of blood, breath, and muscle beneath. In this state, time seems to slow, allowing warriors to read their opponents like open books - every heartbeat, every tensed muscle, every planned strike laid bare before them.
  • Selfless State (無我むがの境きょう地ち Muga no Kyōchi): The zenith of spiritual mastery, where marked warriors transcend the very essence of combat itself. In this extraordinary state, they shed all traces of Fighting Spirit (鬪とう氣き Tōki), becoming as serene as nature itself. Like a flower swaying in the wind, they move without malice or intent, their actions as pure and unreadable as the gentle stirring of leaves."

So yeah, it's a verse power
 
He only discovered it when he was young because that was when he had his first ever fight, so it's more of a 'first time he was in a scenario where it'd actually be used' rather than him having to do anything to actually gain it.
if he already had it, he wouldn't have discovered it, "to discover" is to find out about something you didn't have-or at least you didn't know you had prior.

it would be weird if he always had it, as it would be impossible definitionally to "discover it", unless he didn't know he had it in the first place, and that would be even weirder anyways if he always had access to it but never knew.

"From this mark spring two extraordinary powers:
This seems...baseless?

I legit don't remember the series ever saying the mark is a requirement for both the "states", even Tanjuro's explination about the STW never states anything about the mark being a requirement.
Guess imma work to change that or smth
thanks for the info lol
 
Tanjuro, Tanjiro, Kokushibo, Gyomei, Obanai, Muichiro and even Rengoku have access to transparent world
 
if he already had it, he wouldn't have discovered it, "to discover" is to find out about something you didn't have-or at least you didn't know you had prior.

it would be weird if he always had it would be impossible definitionally to "discover it", unless he didn't know he had it in the first place, and that would be even weirder anyways if he always had access to it but never knew.
Yorriichi is the 'you didn't know you had prior' part. It's not that weird for him not to know since the transparent world is a combat mindset and that was his very first fight, plenty of characters have been born with powers but simply never knew about them because of their simple lifestyle.

This seems...baseless?

I legit don't remember the series ever saying the mark is a requirement for both the "states", even Tanjuro's explination about the STW never states anything about the mark being a requirement.
Guess imma work to change that or smth
thanks for the info lol
Went to double check the reference sheets, Yoriichi's origin literally says it's because of the mark he was born with that he could do this shit. From his point of view it's literally just breathing.
 
Yorriichi is the 'you didn't know you had prior' part. It's not that weird for him not to know since the transparent world is a combat mindset
it's not just a combat mindset, at least according to this explanation

and that was his very first fight, plenty of characters have been born with powers but simply never knew about them because of their simple lifestyle.
True but why would we assume Yoriichi always had it or was born with it rather than awakened it at some point?


Using the VIZ translation isn't really smth i would recommend considering their consistent bad translations(edit: here is a compilation of their mistranslations), the one i'm using distinguishes them, altho kid Michikatsu states he was born with the vision, there isn't really any reason to take that at face value considering from his prespective, awakening it prior to that and being born with it would have been functionally the same thing.

edit#2: to be clear again i'm not saying having the STW is a skill feat, i'm saying fulfilling the requirements to unlock it is....

Tanjuro, Tanjiro, Kokushibo, Gyomei, Obanai, Muichiro and even Rengoku have access to transparent world
The only ones with full access are Koku and Tanjiro, the rest only partially got it and were only able to glimpse at it here and there.
 
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I really don't think transparent world counts for a skill feat for the criteria of this list. Dude was literally born with the demon slayer mark and transparent world off rip, he literally ignored the unlock conditions for the demon slayer mark. Which itself is a requirement to unlock transparent world meaning that, while it is impressive and all, you literally can't do it without using an in-verse power system.

Honestly I didn't include Goemon's Divine Eye which lets him see entire battles in a single moment
I dont see how Divine Eye woudnt be a skill feat, unless it is explicitly supernatural. It looks like a cookie cutter Analytica Prediction feat to me.
or him having his foes literally see their incoming demise because of his training due to how that could be see as 'in-verse powers'. But if we are allowing that to get through then that opens a full list of weird abilities to be granted with far less stretching.
Looks like a classic Analytical Prediction battle to me, where the opponent simulates a certain set of moves and realise that he woudnt win in that clash.
 
I dont see how Divine Eye woudnt be a skill feat, unless it is explicitly supernatural. It looks like a cookie cutter Analytica Prediction feat to me.
Literally just a byproduct of intense 3 day training without eating or drinking. So if that's applicable then hey I'll add that to Goemon's skill post.

Looks like a classic Analytical Prediction battle to me, where the opponent simulates a certain set of moves and realise that he woudnt win in that clash.
While Hawk is a very skilled fighter, he's never shown to be on a level of analytical precognition. It's only after Goemon's intensive training that this occurred (he's already fought against Jigen at this point who has that type of Precog) so it's accepted as a Goemon ability.
 
Not a swordman but I'm curious if this is skill or too-dumb-to-be-skill.
Bane in Absolute Batman knows how to use every weapon, battle in history, and strategy as well as every single martial art in the world, not only that, but he have studied every single plan attack possible, making any strategy against him irrelevant. He can as well use pressure points to paralyse you with a touch. Later on, Bruce with a fraction of what Bane can do, was said to be capable to predict 50 moves ahead of numerous different enemies at same time while not even being capable to control it. Bane is also so precise that he can alter the body of someone to this state with no major vital damage by punching the person on a surgical level, braking every bone.
However, this is mainly due to Bane using Venom to bust his mind, so idk if this would count as skill or just dumb shit, since Venom can allow him to even mute his own cells
 
it's not just a combat mindset, at least according to this explanation
It's traditionally one and we see that Yoriichi only discovered it during the sword fight. At the specifics level it's just splitting hairs since we already know Yoriichi never needed it until that moment.

Plus transparent world is something that kinda just happens at a point without the character knowing, when Tanjiro got it he was confused at what was happening initially and only knew about it because of his dad telling him. So it's entirely possible that he thought it was possible normally when it in fact was because of the Demon Slayer mark Sun Breathing users naturally have that shit.

True but why would we assume Yoriichi always had it or was born with it rather than awakened it at some point?
Because it's Yoriichi and that's all the information the story gives us. Dude was born different, built different, and outclassed all due to this. We see the moment he discovered it so we can't assume it's some crazy awakening, and the only context we are given is saying that this is something that he just naturally had because of it.

There isn't really any reason to take that at face value considering from his prespective, awakening it prior to that and being born with it would have been functionally the same thing.

edit#2: to be clear again i'm not saying having the STW is a skill feat, i'm saying fulfilling the requirements to unlock it is....
We only got what we can use, and from my knowledge and the actual text everything points towards it being a verse power. Plus if I recall literally every example of the transparent world occurs for those who have their slayer marks out, with further points towards that being a heavy requirement to achieving it. Could it be theoretically possible to achive it if someone was actually that built different, maybe, but nobody has shown that capability without utilizing the Demon Slayer mark.
 
Not a swordman but I'm curious if this is skill or too-dumb-to-be-skill.
Bane in Absolute Batman knows how to use every weapon, battle in history, and strategy as well as every single martial art in the world, not only that, but he have studied every single plan attack possible, making any strategy against him irrelevant. He can as well use pressure points to paralyse you with a touch. Later on, Bruce with a fraction of what Bane can do, was said to be capable to predict 50 moves ahead of numerous different enemies at same time while not even being capable to control it. Bane is also so precise that he can alter the body of someone to this state with no major vital damage by punching the person on a surgical level, braking every bone.
However, this is mainly due to Bane using Venom to bust his mind, so idk if this would count as skill or just dumb shit, since Venom can allow him to even mute his own cells
Bro was training to be immune to prep, wtf is Batman supposed to do 🥀🥀🥀
 
Literally just a byproduct of intense 3 day training without eating or drinking. So if that's applicable then hey I'll add that to Goemon's skill post.
Whatever gets people into the zone man, I dont judge
While Hawk is a very skilled fighter, he's never shown to be on a level of analytical precognition. It's only after Goemon's intensive training that this occurred (he's already fought against Jigen at this point who has that type of Precog) so it's accepted as a Goemon ability.
Good that you clarified that. Still doesn't have to be a "power", but it woudnt be a particular good skill feat anyway.
 
Not a swordman but I'm curious if this is skill or too-dumb-to-be-skill.
Bane in Absolute Batman knows how to use every weapon, battle in history, and strategy as well as every single martial art in the world, not only that, but he have studied every single plan attack possible, making any strategy against him irrelevant. He can as well use pressure points to paralyse you with a touch. Later on, Bruce with a fraction of what Bane can do, was said to be capable to predict 50 moves ahead of numerous different enemies at same time while not even being capable to control it. Bane is also so precise that he can alter the body of someone to this state with no major vital damage by punching the person on a surgical level, braking every bone.
However, this is mainly due to Bane using Venom to bust his mind, so idk if this would count as skill or just dumb shit, since Venom can allow him to even mute his own cells
bro's villains trained to be immune to prep time, he is SO cooked 😭.

What even this version about, tis literally just bruce wayn suffering simulator bruh.
 
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What if Bruce Wayne was born a blue collar worker, was childhood friends with half of his rouge's gallery, and all of them became biblically accurate.
I have never seen a more accurate description, god bless you for this laugh🤣.

May that god also NOT be Darkseide...

The version which uses a flamethrower despiste not killing (somehow)
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nah, you see, he uses anime fire , the one that melts mountains in seconds but can't burn a human hair, so it still counts as "no killing" since the fire defies the laws of physics...or smth.
 
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