Naruto did dodge the Light Fang attack!?! Move Naruto to LS reactions.

[Davy0]

But it's not. How is it Lightspeed? What makes it lightspeed? Haku is Lightspeed, yet he isn't.

 

[Valar_Melkor_2]

Agreed. I don't see how Light Fang is an outlier. The author was just attempting to show how big a powerup Naruto got by showing his increased, speed, power, etc...

 

[Quincy_King]

Agreed. I don't see how Light Fang is an outlier. The author was just attempting to show how big a powerup Naruto got by showing his increased, speed, power, etc...

It's an Outlier comes Naruto hasn't shown any Sub Relativistic to Relativistic feats, to prove his at that level

 

[Valar_Melkor_2]

Agreed. I don't see how Light Fang is an outlier. The author was just attempting to show how big a powerup Naruto got by showing his increased, speed, power, etc...

It's an Outlier comes Naruto hasn't shown any Sub Relativistic to Relativistic feats, to prove his at that level

Why does that make it an outlier? He had just recently got a massive powerup like 3 chapters before.. Whether people like it or not, he dodged an attack that the author confirmed was light speed, and you can't just ignore a feat.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Because going from Massively Hypersonic to FTL doesn't make sense.

 

[Credible_Hulk]

Neither does Island to Moon, but it happened.

 

[Quincy_King]

Neither does Island to Moon, but it happened.

Who went from island to moon?

 

[Credible_Hulk]

Naruto Bijuu Sage Mode was Island(or country, but considering Obito is country it wouldn't make sense) to So6P mode which is Moon lvl.

 

[Quincy_King]

Naruto Bijuu Sage Mode was Island(or country, but considering Obito is country it wouldn't make sense) to So6P mode which is Moon lvl.

IIRC Currently Both Bijuu Sage Mode and So6P Naruto were Continent Level.....

 

[Davy0]

That's completely different. Speed is harder to process than destructive capacity, there are more feats for destructive capacity in an action setting than their is speed.

 

[Valar_Melkor_2]

Because going from Massively Hypersonic to FTL doesn't make sense.

So you're ignoring the feat because you think he got too fast.. Again, he had just got a powerup that put him leagues above his former form which was Massively Hypersonic, and he displayed a Light Speed reaction feat. The author was obviously showing the feat to show Naruto's massively increased speed. If the author states the attack is lights speed and has Naruto dodge it, then he has light speed reactions, simple as that.

 

[Davy0]

Nah, that's not how it works, otherwise DBZ should have been FTL a while ago, yet just got those feats from Beerus.

 

[Credible_Hulk]

Naruto Bijuu Sage Mode was Island(or country, but considering Obito is country it wouldn't make sense) to So6P mode which is Moon lvl.

IIRC Currently Both Bijuu Sage Mode and So6P Naruto were Continent Level.....

That would put Bijuu Sage above Obito(I'm referring to War Arc Bijuu Sage, not The Last). He went from island to Moon(So6P mode is moon lvl).

 

[The_Everlasting]

The author wanting to show something means nothing if it doesn't make sense compared to everything else. Outliers are still outliers whether or not the authors wanted to show the character get stronger.

 

[Davy0]

And again, just like Storm Release. That light can be bent, that energy unleashed could be bent before. This is no different. It uses the same properties as other Storm Release techniques, so there's no real difference. It's not light speed, it's that simple.

 

[Darkness552]

at what time in the manga did naruto do this feat

 

[Credible_Hulk]

But the attack was straight.

 

[Valar_Melkor_2]

Again, it doesn't really matter how fast it is compared to everything else. It still happened, and is a feat for Naruto.

 

[Non-Bias]

Because going from Massively Hypersonic to FTL doesn't make sense.

I don't care one way or the other, but Tsuna from Hitman Reborn went from High-Hypersonic to FTL according to this wiki after a power up or something.

 

[Davy0]

It doesn't matter if the frickin' attack was straight. IT STILL HAS THE PROPERTIES OF THE STORM RELEASE! It's just used in a straight-forward way. THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT LIGHT SPEED! That's what we're trying to tell you.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Tsuna went from Massively Hypersonic+ to at least Massively Hypersonic+ with FTL reactions.

 

[Darkness552]

again when did the feat in the manga happen

 

[Credible_Hulk]

The author wanting to show something means nothing if it doesn't make sense compared to everything else. Outliers are still outliers whether or not the authors wanted to show the character get stronger.

But there are other feats.

Here shows heavenly transfer technique which sends someome at light speed. Proving Naruto characters can survive light speed travel.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11117/111179559/4563881-biqa7q.jpg

Here Might is shown the bend space(which would happen if was Relavistic.)

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11117/111179559/4563630-naruto-4893001.jpg

Here Madara reacts to lasers.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_avatar/11117/111179559/4563893-download+(28).jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_avatar/11117/111179559/4563894-download+(29).jpg

Here Naruto reacts to instantaneos attacks.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11117/111179559/4563907-naruto-5031409.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11117/111179559/4563909-naruto-5046245.jpg

And last Naruto reacting to Sasuke's teleportation.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11117/111179559/4563912-4555046-naruto+react.jpg

 

[Credible_Hulk]

again when did the feat in the manga happe

The top of the page.

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images...-on-naruto-naruto-dogdes-by-ducking-77126.jpg

 

[The_Everlasting]

Outlier.

Clearly science isn't taken into account.

Lasers are generally not considered Lightspeed in fiction, as many characters who dodge them aren't FTL.

How is Kaguya's attack instantaneous?

Sasuke teleports and then attacks, so Naruto didn't react to it.

 

[Credible_Hulk]

It doesn't matter if the frickin' attack was straight. IT STILL HAS THE PROPERTIES OF THE STORM RELEASE! It's just used in a straight-forward way. THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT LIGHT SPEED! That's what we're trying to tell you.

If it is stated its Light speed, then its light speed. Haku's databook entry said he could possibly go lightspeed through reflections, but never has.

 

[Davy0]

If you want to get a feat for such a thing, how about you go and look at Gai's space distorting Night Guy technique. That's the closest technique you have to being even remotely close to said feats. But this can be debunked just by me going and showing Darui's Laser Circus.

 

[Darkness552]

does he show any feats like this after it and are there any inconsistencies later in the series that suggest he doesn't have LS reactions

 

[Davy0]

Him getting knocked on his ass by a little Hyuuga girl and also fighting against a guy called Shin Uchiha who also is considered a "threat".

 

[Credible_Hulk]

Outlier.
Clearly science isn't taken into account.

Lasers are generally not considered Lightspeed in fiction, as many characters who dodge them aren't FTL.

How is Kaguya's attack instantaneous?

Sasuke teleports and then attacks, so Naruto didn't react to it.

They weren't going Lightspeed themselves, they were through a jutsu.

Most of Guy's feats are like him creating so much frition in his punches they set fire, or using air pressure in his attacks.

Ok I can agree, I guess.

Portals and Teleportation.

He did sense him though. He was preoccupied with a fireball and Naruto did note "On the left" and blocked the attack as shown with Naruto's arm in front of him.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Still, outlier.

You only need to move at over Mach 5 to catch fire.

Yeah, unless you want to argue Luffy and Solid Snake are FTL.

Same as below.

He still had time to react in between Sasuke teleporting and Sasuke throwing the punch.

 

[Credible_Hulk]

Him getting knocked on his ass by a little Hyuuga girl and also fighting against a guy called Shin Uchiha who also is considered a "threat".

His daughter got him in a chakra point and was also a gag feat. Shin retreated in his fight against Naruto. Also, what does this have to do with speed.

 

[Davy0]

Except Naruto also has the ability to sense the empathy of others after gaining his Kyuubi Rikudo Mode. Which is what he can do in his Sage Rikudo Mode.

 

[Darkness552]

now that i look at it again what makes the attack LS

 

[Davy0]

It being a laser, it not being of similar attributes to the Laser Circus Technique, It not being a derivitive of Haku's "Lightspeed". You know, all those things that make it Lightspeed.

 

[Credible_Hulk]

Still, outlier.
You only need to move at over Mach 5 to catch fire.

Yeah, unless you want to argue Luffy and Solid Snake are FTL.

Same as below.

He still had time to react in between Sasuke teleporting and Sasuke throwing the punch.

Not, but ok.

Mach 25, but thats not the point. Its to show Kishimoto takes science into account when talking about Guy.

Luffy never beat or match Kizaru, so irrelavant. I don't know the Snake feat in question tho.

He dodged the attacks.

Sasuke is the same speed as him and Naruto was preoccupied. Even if you're fast enough to sense something you're body needs to be fast enough to react.

 

[Darkness552]

ok because i don't see how it would be lightspeed

 

[The_Everlasting]

Yes.

How? Last time I checked, the moon doesn't have oxygen.

I meant a scene where he dodged a laser, Kizaru had nothing to do with it. The Gekkos shoot lasers and Snake dodges them.

He had time to do so, it's impossible to dodge instantaneous objects.

Yeah, and there was a gap in between the teleportation and the attack.

 

[Davy0]

Since? That crap went out the window as soon as he said that Amaterasu had the heat of the sun, that lightning can pierce through stone (how about we just say screw any sorta metal release ability), and Haku was light speed with Sasuke being able to even watch him with unmastered Sharingan eyes...

 

[Credible_Hulk]

^Are u talking to me?