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I want to kick the author who forgot the cool eye in chapter 1(jougan)I will never forgive Kishimoto if he doesn't include Tenseigan in Boruto.
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I want to kick the author who forgot the cool eye in chapter 1(jougan)I will never forgive Kishimoto if he doesn't include Tenseigan in Boruto.
The movie also gave Hinata Hamura chakra only to bench her for the rest of her life. But that's on Boruto not the movie. And yeah the genjutsu stuff was wack. The last had good parts for sure but the bad parts kinda overshadow for me.Oh your not wrong, that also pissed me off especially when naruto got genjustued but Sakura got out because sheās āresistantā to it or something. But I also kinda liked some stuff in the movie manly the otosuki clan but itās rushed so badly that itās just kinda meh. And romance was cute but ya it would have been better if it was set up in the pain arc. The film was like a 5-4/10. Atleast the animation was good
Tbh I think I stopped paying attention at that part lol.so I didnāt even realize she got a power up.Ya, but the boruto movie is as bad, right?The movie also gave Hinata Hamura chakra only to bench her for the rest of her life. But that's on Boruto not the movie. And yeah the genjutsu stuff was wack. The had good parts for sure but the bad parts kinda overshadow for me.
Nah it's better than the Last but it's not anything groundbreaking either. It's cool. The anime does it far better tho.Tbh I think I stopped paying attention at that part lol. Ya, but the boruto movie is as bad, right?
Oh, so should I just watch the anime then?Nah it's better than the Last but it's not anything groundbreaking either. It's cool. The anime does it far better tho.
Tell me which if any of these premises you disagree with:I have, obito let kakashi beat him. Plan and simple. Thereās nothing implying he was coping or that he was betting on kakashi being fast.
I don't believe that's been stated anywhere. He wouldn't have been able to use that against Kakashi anyways since he spawned those rods out of Kamui. Juubito had better options sure but they still could've been useful if he used them appropriately.Pretty sure you need to reinforce your control over it with chakra. Fair enough on the Uchiha barrier, that might explain why he used those rinnegan chains bee then. Juubito had better options just like madera(expect for when he uses limbo)
That can just mean Lightning Cable>Raikiri. That's kinda my point, Naruto was too busy just trying to defend to even have the chance to attack, while Kakashi was just fine attacking and defending.And kakashi did and did little to no damage. He tagged them with chidori and couldnāt even pierce there chakra cloaks. Heck Naruto didnāt even get the chance to hit them.
Oooor Kakashi just got faster and the jinchuriki don't scale to Late WA Kakashi.Didnāt know the Jinās were so fast either, to think kcm1 naruto could even react to those speeds is crazy
Uh those links don't work, though I assume this is about the moment where Naruto pushed Naruto and Sasuke out of the way of Kaguya's chakra arm? Cause that's fine, clones are not weaker than the original when the clones are out. As I said before, doing the Shadow Clone jutsu equally and evenly distributes chakra between you and your clones, meaning when your clones are out, you're relative to those weaker versions of yourself. As for Sasuke, that just means it's easier to push someone out of the way of something than to dodge it yourself.
This part of the argument is just gonna go in circles tbhHe doesnāt scale, thatās kind off the point
Uhhhhhhh I'm kinda confused? I said it was fine in response to you implying it wouldn't be. Although about the Kakashi~KCM Minato point, I'm pretty sure Minato was fatigued considering he had given all his KCM chakra to Naruto not too long ago and was just regaining his cloak when he then spread his chakra all over the alliance and contributed to a chakra tug of war that Kakashi entirely missed.Kakashi is relative to kcm Minato from running next to him so I donāt see why this isnāt fine
They obviously have intent to do something considering Obito gave them orders of what to do.How is he gonna sense the intent of a corpse?
So did Guy?Obito also blocked his blow without much problem soooā¦.
I think there are some pros to the movie versionOh, so should I just watch the anime then?
Then should I watch both?I think there are some pros to the movie version
How about we just agree to disagreeTell me which if any of these premises you disagree with:
1. Kakashi witnessed Obito fighting KCM2 Naruto prior to his fight with Obito
2. Kakashi isn't cocky/stupid
3. Kakashi believed he could take Obito out
4. Kakashi didn't notice anything different about Obito compared to usual (besides obviously not being able to use Kamui)
5. Obito wanting to get his heart stabbed and him going all out in terms of stats aren't mutually exclusive (if he already knew Kakashi was on his level)
I don't believe that's been stated anywhere. He wouldn't have been able to use that against Kakashi anyways since he spawned those rods out of Kamui. Juubito had better options sure but they still could've been useful if he used them appropriately.
That can just mean Lightning Cable>Raikiri. That's kinda my point, Naruto was too busy just trying to defend to even have the chance to attack, while Kakashi was just fine attacking and defending.
Oooor Kakashi just got faster and the jinchuriki don't scale to Late WA Kakashi.
Uh those links don't work, though I assume this is about the moment where Naruto pushed Naruto and Sasuke out of the way of Kaguya's chakra arm? Cause that's fine, clones are not weaker than the original when the clones are out. As I said before, doing the Shadow Clone jutsu equally and evenly distributes chakra between you and your clones, meaning when your clones are out, you're relative to those weaker versions of yourself. As for Sasuke, that just means it's easier to push someone out of the way of something than to dodge it yourself.
This part of the argument is just gonna go in circles tbh
Uhhhhhhh I'm kinda confused? I said it was fine in response to you implying it wouldn't be. Although about the Kakashi~KCM Minato point, I'm pretty sure Minato was fatigued considering he had given all his KCM chakra to Naruto not too long ago and was just regaining his cloak when he then spread his chakra all over the alliance and contributed to a chakra tug of war that Kakashi entirely missed.
They obviously have intent to do something considering Obito gave them orders of what to do.
So did Guy?
Like Sparkle said. I think you should watch both of them but not back to back I guess. But if you're in a time crunch and could only watch one, then I'd recommend the Anime for sure.Oh, so should I just watch the anime then?
I think I'd suggest watching the anime version first then the movie later (so you have more context for stuff that might be glossed over in the movie), but the reverse order is technically the way it's meant to be watched since that's the release orderThen should I watch both?
SureHow about we just agree to disagree
Pretty much that and just WA Kakashi's level in general@MinatoSparkle
Are you guys discussing if Kakashi is = Obito?
I suppose thisWhat was the initial comment that started this? Lol
Hm ig I'm cool with 4x actually
He solos the Five Kage
His stats went from like Base Naruto level+ to KCM2 Naruto/Rinnegan Obito tier
Oh yh defsThis is one of the very few things Boruto has over Naruto
We get to see the characters in less tense situations and have them actually have fun
Iirc, this episode was a camping trip where the kids came together to have fun
Obviously, the times were different in Naruto but I appreciate seeing things like this
Aside from the V2 Fight (Which, after Guy freed him, KCM Naruto fought off-screen and wasnāt show like Kakashi and Guy except for this 1 panel), have you taken into consideration Kakashi was Kyuubi Amped 100% almost by time he fought Obito?I think I'd suggest watching the anime version first then the movie later (so you have more context for stuff that might be glossed over in the movie), but the reverse order is technically the way it's meant to be watched since that's the release order
Sure
Pretty much that and just WA Kakashi's level in general
I suppose this
About thatAside from the V2 Fight (Which, after Guy freed him, KCM Naruto fought off-screen and wasnāt show like Kakashi and Guy except for this 1 panel), have you taken into consideration Kakashi was Kyuubi Amped 100% almost by time he fought Obito?
I meanā¦ Kakashi vs Obito isnāt exactly āBase Kakashiā vs Obito technically. Kurama strapped a V6 to that mf!
The cloak isnāt what iām referring two. Remember, Kakashiās own reserves were completely empty when Naruto saved him from Obito. After this point, Kakashiās entire tank was refilled with Kyuubi Chakra. The Cloak was just excess after Kurama gave them MORE chakra. So Kakashi vs Obito is still a MASSIVELY Kyuubi Amped Kakashi.
P sure he'd just wanna absorb all the Kurama chakra. At the very least, there's no proof that he did still have Kurama chakra. It's also not like he only has Obito level feats after first getting Kurama's chakra (if anything it kinda seems like they had a whole offscreen fight between Chapter 601 and 607, while Naruto Bee and Guy were fighting Madara).The cloak isnāt what iām referring two. Remember, Kakashiās own reserves were completely empty when Naruto saved him from Obito. After this point, Kakashiās entire tank was refilled with Kyuubi Chakra. The Cloak was just excess after Kurama gave them MORE chakra. So Kakashi vs Obito is still a MASSIVELY Kyuubi Amped Kakashi.
Rinnegan absorption is kinda weird, since it clearly amps Sasuke, but it doesn't really seem to boost anyone else. Otherwise, the Preta Path would've been goated after absorbing the Rasenshuriken.This would also give support to the notion Obito was actually holding back as well, because he was ALSO Kyuubi amped due to absorbing the Cloak.
Or he just got that raw durabilityKakashi surviving Obitoās onslaught while exhausted of chakra is either an endurance feat or outlier imo.
Pretty big change, hasriama and Minato scale to the full 9taiks so Iād image there be a decent change in tiersif half Kurama got accepted to 5-B how would that change everything
If you mean the One Shot, Kurama was suppressedMinato scale to the full 9taiks
We still waiting for Jogan.I will never forgive Kishimoto if he doesn't include Tenseigan in Boruto.
True but Minato got a hole in his stomach and was posioned. So I think heād still scaleIf you mean the One Shot, Kurama was suppressed
The green orb used to knock her out messed up her chakra network. I don't think the movie mentioned that but the novelisation didWhy sugar coat it? The movie was ass. Not just the pacing of it. Hinata using the scarf to keep her from falling instead of you know, literally doing what the first arc taught njnjas, walking on walls. That alone made me check out. And the romance stuff should have been set up better from the pain arc.
Unquantifiable, and that'd put Teen Minato on the level of the Wood Golem and Perfect Susanoo, which is quite inconsistent.True but Minato got a hole in his stomach and was posioned. So I think heād still scale
Agreed. Maybe thereās more set up than what Iām remembering since itās been awhile since I watched the movie but Naruto confessing his love just felt rushed and kinda weird to meAnd the romance stuff should have been set up better from the pain arc.
Absorbing the cloak has never been tantamount to absorbing all the chakra out of the body (Look at Kisame vs Bee). Even Pain DIRECTLY absorbing Chakra from Narutoās body wasnāt instant and his Preta wouldnāt be diminished because he has both Rinnegan, not just 1.P sure he'd just wanna absorb all the Kurama chakra.
Why wouldnāt he? He was stated and shown to be completely drained and only continued past that point because of Kyuubi Chakra and nothing indicates or implies he would somehow have lost that chakra at that point. Again, w/o Kyuubi Chakra he was gassed and heās clearly not after the fact.At the very least, there's no proof that he did still have Kurama chakra.
Honestly, itās likely Obito wasnāt going all out there, even if we agree that there was an entire off-screen fight between those chapters. Kakashi was massively drained and out of chakra when Kurama refilled his tank. Kakashi after that moment is FAR superior to whatever he would be had he been fresh w/ no Kyuubi Chakra, and Iām sure on that we agree.
The Databook expressly states the chakra is dispersed inside the body. You can argue Kishimoto was inconsistent, but we know how it works, especially with Biju Chakra given Nagato and B.Rinnegan absorption is kinda weird, since it clearly amps Sasuke, but it doesn't really seem to boost anyone else. Otherwise, the Preta Path would've been goated after absorbing the Rasenshuriken.
Or Obito was just holding backā¦Or he just got that raw durability
Not really, it just means Minato is in the same ballpark at 9tails. Kurama was wanking him up to be a shinobi as great as hasriama or something like that. And the rasegean was always supposed to be an extremely powerful jutsu soooā¦.Unquantifiable, and that'd put Teen Minato on the level of the Wood Golem and Perfect Susanoo, which is quite inconsistent.
I mean, she did fight Momoshiki + Kinshiki and live.The movie also gave Hinata Hamura chakra only to bench her for the rest of her life.
The anime is alright if you skip 90% of the filler, but the manga is betterOh, so should I just watch the anime then?
The movie mentions her body was numb, that scene is heavily criticized despite their being explanations.The green orb used to knock her out messed up her chakra network. I don't think the movie mentioned that but the novelisation did
Kyuubinato FRAIf you mean the One Shot, Kurama was suppressed
9-Tails is on par with Perfect Susano'o, what are you disagreeing with?Not really, it just means Minato is in the same ballpark at 9tails.
I kinda thought 9 tails was below them but youāre right his on the same lvl. I guess Minato is just HIM9-Tails is on par with Perfect Susano'o, what are you disagreeing with?
Minato is factually below Kurama. He would have slaughtered Obito and A4 if he wasn't.I kinda thought 9 tails was below them but youāre right his on the same lvl. I guess Minato is just HIM
There is always the rotational K.E absorbing featKinda wish we had Low 5-B Juubi at full power. Not praying for feats or anything, I just think that sounds cool.
He factually is not, hiruzen was literally waiting for Minato to swoop in and save the day. He kinda did, obito got sent packing(and probably only survived because good ole hasriama cells) and Minato was gonna straight murder A if bee didnāt save him. Heck A still glazes Minato to this day.Minato is factually below Kurama. He would have slaughtered Obito and A4 if he wasn't.
That's hokage minato. Hokage minato can definitely take on kurama. It was teen minato he was talking aboutHe factually is not, hiruzen was literally waiting for Minato to swoop in and save the day. He kinda did, obito got sent packing(and probably only survived because good ole hasriama cells) and Minato was gonna straight murder A if bee didnāt save him. Heck A still glazes Minato to this day.