Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[NeoKingOfLight]

Following Match-Ups (This is what I think it will ultimately be):

1. Jura & Code vs Boruto & Kawaki
2. Hidari vs Sarada, Sumire & Mitsuki
3. Bug vs Daemon
4. Matsuri vs Shikamaru, Konohamaru, Ino-Shika-Cho & Hima
5. Ryu vs Gaara, Delta & His Team.

I think Koji will be on Comms for all fights.

 

[Samlex1234]

1. Jura & Code vs Boruto & Kawaki
2. Hidari vs Sarada, Sumire & Mitsuki
3. Bug vs Daemon
4. Matsuri vs Shikamaru, Konohamaru, Ino-Shika-Cho & Hima
5. Ryu vs Gaara, Delta & His Team.

I think Koji will be on Comms for all fights.

Excited

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

We don’t have to prove why etso doesn’t scale that burden is on you to prove why it does scale to physicals buddy

 

[Samlex1234]

We don’t have to prove why etso doesn’t scale that burden is on you to prove why it does scale to physicals buddy

The burden of proof fallacy.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

You don’t know what that fallacy is evidently

 

[sageof8paths]

Closed the thread for now so I can split it up. I’ll do that tomorrow though it’s 1am.

We don’t have to prove why etso doesn’t scale that burden is on you to prove why it does scale to physicals buddy

Are u saying the timeframe for the full etso or you’re talking about the divided per second rating that doesn’t scale?

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I was just gonna post that here thanks

holy balls bro dropped a huge ass nuke

right when I was getting ready to fight for bro i realised the thread got closed

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

He closed it so he could better structure it, not cuz it got auto axed

 

[Samlex1234]

Interesting. Are you suggesting that even if the sole reason for Kaguya not scaling to her Expansive Truth-Seeking Orb (ETSO) is eliminated, the burden of proof still rests on us to demonstrate that she does scale? Make that makes sense

 

[Samlex1234]

You don’t know what that fallacy is evidently

Interesting. Are you suggesting that even if the sole reason for Kaguya not scaling to her Expansive Truth-Seeking Orb (ETSO) is eliminated, the burden of proof still rests on us to demonstrate that she does scale? Make that makes sense

 

[Testarossa002]

Slayer had to drop the bijuu tier characters to baseline 6-C even with the presence of UES
Bold of you to think that Kaguya's gentle fists are going to be rated equally as ETSB

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

We don’t have to prove why etso doesn’t scale that burden is on you to prove why it does scale to physicals buddy

uh huh why do you think I brought up UES

you're not supposed to say "uh yeah we accept wizardry BS to scale to your physicals but THIS one that I cherrypicked doesn't, Don't ask why"

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Interesting. Are you suggesting that even if the sole reason for Kaguya not scaling to her Expansive Truth-Seeking Orb (ETSO) is eliminated, the burden of proof still rests on us to demonstrate that she does scale? Make that makes sense

Yes if you’re claiming something to be true, you need to substantiate that claim. If I say Naruto is universal, I need to substantiate that claim, me saying “well there’s no thread rule against it” doesn’t make my claim valid.

uh huh why do you think I brought up UES

you're not supposed to say "uh yeah we accept wizardry BS to scale to your physicals but THIS one that I cherrypicked doesn't, Don't ask why"

UES =/= all attacks scale to physicals. Oh brother if yall are this ignorant, yall are cooked

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Closed the thread for now so I can split it up. I’ll do that tomorrow though it’s 1am.

could we discuss this on dms before you post it? at the very least I can help you structure the thread better, ill hit up ur twt dms if ur okay

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Yes if you’re claiming something to be true, you need to substantiate that claim. If I say Naruto is universal, I need to substantiate that claim, me saying “well there’s no thread rule against it” doesn’t make my claim valid.


UES =/= all attacks scale to physicals. Oh brother if yall are this ignorant, yall are cooked

isn't the whole reason for having UES that feats get scaled to physicals by default UNLESS there's reason to believe differently e.g. charged attacks, multipliers, external energy source, do people have to have to show statements of tanking attacks every time like they do nowadays (which is without ues)

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

isn't the whole reason for having UES that feats get scaled to physicals by default UNLESS there's reason to believe differently e.g. charged attacks, multipliers, external energy source, do people have to have to show statements of tanking attacks every time like they do nowadays (which is without ues)

That’s pretty close to being on the mark

 

[Samlex1234]

Yes if you’re claiming something to be true, you need to substantiate that claim. If I say Naruto is universal, I need to substantiate that claim, me saying “well there’s no thread rule against it” doesn’t make my claim valid.

False equalization one is already accepted and another is not(Kaguya with ETSO is 4b but Naruto is not Universal). I don't need to substantiate anything, the only reason Kaguya does not scale to her ETSO right now if you check her profile is UES. Thus, if you remove UES there is nothing stopping her from scaling, you or anybody that does not agree will have to prove why she does not scale after UES.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

My argument doesn’t involve the etso being 4-B already. That’s just an entire strawman.

Edit: you’re also wrong, the UES isn’t even the main reason it doesn’t scale, and you can choose to fail to fulfill your burden if you want. I’m not losing any sleep on your incompetence.

 

[Samlex1234]

My argument doesn’t involve the etso being 4-B already. That’s just an entire strawman

What does it involve then?

Let's break it down

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

What does it involve then?

Let's break it down

You’ll get it in sage8’s thread bubba, be patient

 

[Samlex1234]

You’ll get it in sage8’s thread bubba, be patient

Whatever man. I call that a concession

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Whatever man. I call that a concession

lol you’re the one who not even a few hours ago said save the arguing for the CRTs not the general thread, shut up fool

 

[HelloThere1089]

There is clear evidence of Kaguya scaling to her ETSO tho. Idk why y'all are coping like this.

 

[Samlex1234]

There is clear evidence of Kaguya scaling to her ETSO tho. Idk why y'all are coping like this.

What is the evidence for her not scaling?

 

[Samlex1234]

lol you’re the one who not even a few hours ago said save the arguing for the CRTs not the general thread, shut up fool

I read you man.., like a book

 

[HelloThere1089]

What is the evidence for her not scaling?

Here

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I read you man.., like a book

 

[Samlex1234]

Here

So you have no evidence. Makes sense

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Here

joke runs dry when u keep using the same thing

 

[Robo432343]

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Hellothere don’t listen to the naysayers speak your truth

 

[HelloThere1089]

So you have no evidence. Makes sense

Crazy how I don't need evidence because I never made an argument in the first place.

joke runs dry when u keep using the same thing

You know who else are pretty dry when they see you?

 

[Samlex1234]

Just because you receive likes doesn’t mean your post is funny or insightful; even foolish people enjoy foolish content.

 

[Godernet]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/kaguyas-etso-the-final-chapter-part-1-episode-2.173431/

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

You know who else are pretty dry when they see you?

god damn it lmao

 

[AnimesFreak2]

You know who else are pretty dry when they see you?

Lmao

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I think I figured it out.
The doubling is in reference to Kiba and his Shadow Clone.
So the combination of Kiba + his shadow clone or Kiba + Akamaru results in 2x their power.
And the combination of Kiba + Akamaru + Shadow clone = 3 Headed Wolf = 3x amp.

But I mean the jutsu is with the 3 Headed Wolf, not just Kiba + clone or Kiba + Akamaru, and it specifically says 3 Headed Wolf is 3x the 2 Headed Wolf

Shoulda lead with that translation then

Capacity and power have to different implications

I was lazy. Although anyways idt they're really different in this context

hundreds or thousands of times greater than Tier 5 for substantially weaker characters than Code and Hidari is absolutely insane to think with the information we have rn.

Kaguya is far stronger than the chakra of the humans on Earth, but absorbing their chakra still made her exponentially stronger.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Naruto has 3x more Chakra than the combined SA and Kaguya far outscales him…. The ETSO is just AoE, they outscale the final value

 

[HelloThere1089]

SA

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Ain’t nobody got time to fully type out “Shinobi Alliance” in a shit post…