Naruto vs Rob Lucci

[Kachon123]

Fourth Shinobi World War Naruto vs Pre-Timeskip Rob Lucci



(thanks @XDragnoir for the idea)
Speed unequal
Starting distance: 10 m

Naruto AP: 53.15 Megatons, 4.3 Gigatons with Sage Mode or Kyūbi Chakra Mode, 5.68 Gigatons with Sage Mode Rasenshuriken, 15.55 Gigatons with Kyūbi Chakra Mode Rasenshuriken, 21.5 Gigatons with Kurama Mode, 321.85 Gigatons with Tailed Beast Bombs
Naruto Speed: 0.028c, 0.14c with Sage Mode or Kyūbi Chakra Mode, 1c with Shunshin

Lucci AP: 9.36 Gigatons, 18.7 Gigatons with Rokushiki, 37.5 Gigatons with Tekkai or Hybrid Rokushiki
Lucci Speed: 0.362046c, 0.59c in Hybrid Form

Naruto:
Rob Lucci:

Theme Song:

 

[Arkansalter2]

Naruto is gonna have to go into sage mode off the rip if he wants to at least stand a chance.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

The ap advantage is rough

following ig

 

[Kachon123]

Pretty sure Naruto can sense power levels so he should know to enter into Sage Mode

 

[Arkansalter2]

Pretty sure Naruto can sense power levels so he should know to enter into Sage Mode

I see. Well on with the match.
Doesnt naruto have 6-B shenanigans?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I see. Well on with the match.
Doesnt naruto have 6-B shenanigans?

no

 

[Kachon123]

I see. Well on with the match.
Doesnt naruto have 6-B shenanigans?

He doesn't.

 

[Arkansalter2]

He doesn't.

possibly Country level with Tailed Beast Bombs (His Charged Tailed Beast Bomb should be much stronger than regular) at 24 teratons.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

possibly Country level with Tailed Beast Bombs (His Charged Tailed Beast Bomb should be much stronger than regular) at 24 teratons.

thats for his possibly 6B stuff

Kachon already listed the values with both capping at 6C

 

[Arkansalter2]

Interesting.
Well how does Naruto's TBB's work?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Interesting.
Well how does Naruto's TBB's work?

big ahh nuke

 

[Arkansalter2]

I see and whats stopping Naruto from just... using it? Does it take a bunch of energy or something?

 

[Kachon123]

I see and whats stopping Naruto from just... using it? Does it take a bunch of energy or something?

Lucci is much faster and stronger so he could probably just interrupt Naruto. He also has Geppo, which allows him to fly up high to avoid the explosion radius.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I see and whats stopping Naruto from just... using it? Does it take a bunch of energy or something?

He dosen't lead this this

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Lucci is much faster and stronger so he could probably just interrupt Naruto.

The 4x speed advantage comming in clutch there

He also has Geppo, which allows him to fly up high to avoid the explosion radius.

Wouldn't Lucci need to traverse, like, thousands of kilometers?

even the height of the explosion alone completely dwarfs mountains...

 

[Foriaa]

leaning naruto due to having the deeper bag with much greater range.

 

[Kachon123]

Wouldn't Lucci need to traverse, like, thousands of kilometers?

even the height of the explosion alone completely dwarfs mountains...

One Piece characters have been able to dodge point blank explosions (literally on his body) for a while. Lucci is already much faster, and with his FTE amps, he could easily get that far.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

One Piece characters have been able to dodge point blank explosions (literally on his body) for a while.

yeah but we're comparing explosions that are maybe hundreds of meters to explosions that are thousands of kilometers...

Lucci is already much faster, and with his FTE amps, he could easily get that far.

Does luccis FTE amps allow him to blitz nard to that extent?

 

[Kachon123]

yeah but we're comparing explosions that are maybe hundreds of meters to explosions that are thousands of kilometers...

Like, he's still faster than the explosion is moving. It would essentially be moving in slow motion to him when he's using something like Kamisoru. It'd never hit him.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Like, he's still faster than the explosion is moving. It would essentially be moving in slow motion to him when he's using something like Kamisoru. It'd never hit him.

It still takes a certain amount of speed to statue something so much that you can blitz it across thousands of kilometers of distance

Another thing I should add is that this also relies on luccis travel speed somehow being not just comparable to Naruto's attack speed but also being fast enough to blitz it hilariously. Do One Piece characters even have relativistic travel?

 

[Kachon123]

Another thing I should add is that this also relies on luccis travel speed somehow being not just comparable to Naruto's attack speed but also being fast enough to blitz it hilariously. Do One Piece characters even have relativistic travel?

Yes, that's what Lucci's Rokushiki is.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Yes, that's what Lucci's Rokushiki is.

for reaction yes but to outrun it he also needs travel speed

or are we saying rokushiki also gives rel+ travel speed?

 

[Kachon123]

for reaction yes but to outrun it he also needs travel speed

or are we saying rokushiki also gives rel+ travel speed?

Rokushiki gives rel+ travel speed with Soru and Geppo. It's Rel+ FTE flight with Kamisoru. His movement (running etc) speed is also just that high when transformed into his Zoan form.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Rokushiki gives rel+ travel speed with Soru and Geppo. It's Rel+ FTE flight with Kamisoru. His movement (running etc) speed is also just that high when transformed into his Zoan form.

Hmm, In that case what happens when Naruto fires multiple and just outranges?

 

[Kachon123]

Hmm, In that case what happens when Naruto fires multiple and just outranges?

Lucci also has range.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Lucci also has range.

yeah but not thousands of kilometers worth of range

 

[Kachon123]

yeah but not thousands of kilometers worth of range

Starting distance: 10 m

 

[Delusionaltx2]

If we're assuming Lucci is outrunning the first one, he'd have to get thousands of kilometers away from naruto to do that

 

[Kachon123]

If we're assuming Lucci is outrunning the first one, he'd have to get thousands of kilometers away from naruto to do that

Unless Naruto is immune to his own explosions, I don't know why he'd blow one up in front of his face in the first place.

Lucci is an aggressive-type Zoan and will literally be chasing Naruto at top speed the entire time

 

[Arkansalter2]

Leaning naruto due to having the deeper bag with the amps up his ass.

 

[Kachon123]

Leaning naruto due to having the deeper bag with the amps up his ass.

None of Naruto's amps make him stronger or faster than Lucci. Only his nuke move has higher AP, but Lucci can easily recover from that thanks to his Zoan regen and recoverability, plus his Tekkai's damage reduction. On top of that Naruto would have to get space between himself and Lucci to even fire an attack like that, which isn't happening due to how Lucci fights.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Unless Naruto is immune to his own explosions, I don't know why he'd blow one up in front of his face in the first place.

He wouldn't go for direct nukes at close range sure but if the fight gets to a point where he's 100s of meters away (say nard lands a hit and sends him flying or something) then yeah he would use it

Lucci is an aggressive-type Zoan and will literally be chasing Naruto at top speed the entire time

Nard has like 2 forms of danger sense and shadow clone shenanigans, if he wants to make distance he just has to make 2000 copies of himself, play around with substitution and that's that

 

[Kachon123]

He wouldn't go for direct nukes at close range sure but if the fight gets to a point where he's 100s of meters away (say nard lands a hit and sends him flying or something) then yeah he would use it

Maybe, but what are the odds of that happening before Lucci hits Naruto with a fatal blow? Lucci's fighting style is extremely lethal where even a singe attack can instantly kill. For example, Shigan, which aims at vitals. And Lucci's is even more lethal because of his transformation. Lucci is already a considerable amount faster than Naruto, so when he strings his attacks together like this, Naruto's just not going to keep up. Lucci also has much higher LS than Naruto, so the chances of him getting knocked back by Naruto are low. This is how he treated Luffy, who has scaled higher than Naruto. Lucci has a specific technique utilizing LS that counters attacks and reflects them on the opponent (he noted that it would destroy the target's arm).

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Maybe, but what are the odds of that happening before Lucci hits Naruto with a fatal blow?

very high considering shadow clones is narutos go-to

Lucci's fighting style is extremely lethal where even a singe attack can instantly kill. For example, Shigan, which aims at vitals. And Lucci's is even more lethal because of his transformation.

Low-mid regen especially with nine tales chakra gives nard a fair amount of leeway for mistakes

Naruto would also be gaining info about luccis abilities by sacrificing his shadow clones so he'd know what he's up against here

Lucci is already a considerable amount faster than Naruto, so when he strings his attacks together like this, Naruto's just not going to keep up.

1. naruto thanks to shadow clones would already get an idea of luccis speed

2. Naruto has like 2 forms of danger sense stacked on top of the fact he can just make Kurama avatars for defense, the speed advantage is troublesome sure, but naruto still has options here

Lucci also has much higher LS than Naruto, so the chances of him getting knocked back by Naruto are low. This is how he treated Luffy, who has scaled higher than Naruto. Lucci has a specific technique utilizing LS that counters attacks and reflects them on the opponent (he noted that it would destroy the target's arm).

Ok what about shunshin + clones?

 

[Kachon123]

very high considering shadow clones is narutos go-to

A single kick from Lucci is enough to destroy most of them. Plus that doesn't prove that he'd get knocked far away, or that Lucci couldn't close the gap instantly with Soru.

Low-mid regen especially with nine tales chakra gives nard a fair amount of leeway for mistakes

A single mistake would lead to something like this (except there would actually be holes since Naruto isn't made of rubber). There is no room for mistakes. Lucci is a trained killer and he's the best in World Government history.

Naruto would also be gaining info about luccis abilities by sacrificing his shadow clones so he'd know what he's up against here

Same goes for Lucci

1. naruto thanks to shadow clones would already get an idea of luccis speed

And unfortunately there's nothing he can do about it.

2. Naruto has like 2 forms of danger sense stacked on top of the fact he can just make Kurama avatars for defense, the speed advantage is troublesome sure, but naruto still has options here

Lucci has Kenbunshoku Haki and skilled anpr. As well as just being faster than Naruto, he'd be seeing his attacks slower. He also has Kami-e, which makes him auto-dodge attacks.

Ok what about shunshin + clones?

Shunshin is less than 2x faster than Hybrid Lucci. Lucci can amp his speed much further than that with Life Return, and then has sustained blitz amps with Soru, Geppo, Kamisoru.

Lucci can also one-shot Naruto with his Rokuogan.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

A single kick from Lucci is enough to destroy most of them. Plus that doesn't prove that he'd get knocked far away,

They can just dodge the kick using danger sense and substitution

or that Lucci couldn't close the gap instantly with Soru.

Nard counters soru with shunshin

A single mistake would lead to something like this (except there would actually be holes since Naruto isn't made of rubber). There is no room for mistakes. Lucci is a trained killer and he's the best in World Government history.

Thats fine since

1. Naruto unlike luffy has much better options to not make mistakes thanks to clones, the only reason I brought up mistakes was to address the possibility of IF lucci reaches him

2. Nine tales chakra has allowed naruto to regenerate from similar injuries

Same goes for Lucci

A couple differences here

1. Lucci would have to be able to somehow track and analyze thousands of copies while also somehow getting pass substitution (naruto switching between each clone) him analyzing one individual is not the same thing here

2. naruto has fooled even characters like neji who on paper counter him by virtue of straight up seeing chakra flow, he can use transformation to mask attacks which would severly screw with luccis combat approch.

And unfortunately there's nothing he can do about it.

Again he just subsitutes with one of the 1000s of clones he has or makes kurama avatars for defense

Lucci has Kenbunshoku Haki and skilled anpr.

Nard has fooled people with similar abilities

As well as just being faster than Naruto, he'd be seeing his attacks slower.

Naruto has already handled characters with precognitive abilities and has just used deception to fool them even IF lucci does see narutos attacks slower what stops Naruto's deception from just catching him off guard aways like he's done before?

He also has Kami-e, which makes him auto-dodge attacks.

While this does give lucci the edge in hand to hand this dosen't fair well against the attacks with more extended range like kurama cloak arms or larger scale rasengans

Shunshin is less than 2x faster than Hybrid Lucci. Lucci can amp his speed much further than that with Life Return, and then has sustained blitz amps with Soru, Geppo, Kamisoru.

This dosen't address the clone issue though, sure lucci has faster amps what how good would those faster amps be if naruto uses clones and subsitution to bait him into a position that just leaves him open

Lucci can also one-shot Naruto with his Rokuogan.

naruto can regenerate his punched lungs, assuming rokuogan does hit it this wouldn't kill him

 

[BlackeJan]

Why does people in the OP make a vs thread knowing who they are gonna favor or pick regardless of the match up?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Why does people in the OP make a vs thread knowing who they are gonna favor or pick regardless of the match up?

Tbf I think he's just defending Lucci to give a different perspective (which is fine)

 

[BlackeJan]

Tbf I think he's just defending Lucci to give a different perspective (which is fine)

Oh im not dissing him or anything I’ve just been seeing that a lot of users. Anyways Naruto can only win with KCM2 with SM stacked on top cause either that he gets destroyed

 

[karo_senpaii]

How does lucci survive a small country level + bijuu bomb?