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Narutoverse Scaling: Kazekage Rescue Mission - Pain's Assault arcs
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Kido's statement give v2 transformation 100x multiplier
and sakura's statement give 1000x(over base/10x over v2) multiplier to jutsu ap and speed
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Literally Tobirama established that for sharingan users hate directly effects your chakra and you directly get stronger via it.
The sharingan releases a special chakra enchanting your strength and ocular powers.
The MS releases several times normal chakra. Giving you more speed and ap. According to shusui.
The sharingan releases a special chakra enchanting your strength and ocular powers.
The MS releases several times normal chakra. Giving you more speed and ap. According to shusui.
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This was for his Justu's speed and power, Kido's statement on his own amp was "orders of magnitude"
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Speed isn't as wide as the rest to be fair.Its pretty annoying since page 7 or 8 until now wr havent gotten anywhere to the point we start to talk about speed
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He was specifically several orders of magnitude stronger and faster as stated by sakura. Kido statement being vaguer and prior to sakura’s. So there being a good possibility it’s just vague or he hadn’t reached his fp. Since Sakura is a sensor type she’d be more specific.
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Well, you ain't wrong because he solo'd someone (Sasuke) who solo'd someone (Deidara) who solo'd a Kage (Gaara). He also previously solo'd Orochimaru (more than once), who did kill another Kage.
So maybe instead of Solo King we should call Itachi the Kage Slayer.
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She realized that the jutsu, now enhanced by the drug. was several orders of magnitude faster and more destructive
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This is why I took a break from scaling Naruto, because every time the fandom sees the word chakra, it means boost.
Not once there does it say speed or AP.
The Sharingan is born when a unique type of chakra enters the eye when Uchiha get sad.
All Sharingan have different chakra signatures, unique from regular chakra. That's Why Ao see's unique type of chakra in Danzo's body.
The eyes that reflect a heart is a figure of speech.
You highlighted stronger hate like that meant AP, when he's talking about someone dying and you get angry.
Their power lies in their eyes, stop trying to connect eye power with their muscles.
Sasuke says with sharingan that he can conserve chakra, he never says "WOAH, I GOT A NEW CHAKRA". The fact that he calls it CHAKRA SIGHT and says that he can execute attacks before they happen should prove that it's 1000% visual.
Don't bring another vague Tobirama scan. This is a Sharingan USER proving you wrong.
Strength ≠ AP. Itachi said let me show you my clan's true strength and used Genjutsu.
And don't dare talk about Shisui without context like the ones who shove Seth down my throat every time I get into a debate referring to the sharingan.
He was talking about his own special GENJUTSU.
He said the amount of chakra in their heads was much more than regular genjutsu which puts chakra in people's heads.
Now just talk about the MS when he was referring to his own jutsu.
Enough. Sharingan doesn't boost AP or speed. IT NEVER DID AND IT NEVER WILL.
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I know that we're still not on speed yet.
Someone relook all of Sasuke's speed feats with the sharingan active, because now I can just note it as aim dodging just to make people bitter.
Someone relook all of Sasuke's speed feats with the sharingan active, because now I can just note it as aim dodging just to make people bitter.
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Basically agree with you beside the MS. I believe all MS genjutsu puts several x the chakra in their target brain only difference is shusi didnt need eye contact which is how i interpretedThis is why I took a break from scaling Naruto, because every time the fandom sees the word chakra, it means boost.
Not once there does it say speed or AP.
The Sharingan is born when a unique type of chakra enters the eye when Uchiha get sad.
All Sharingan have different chakra signatures, unique from regular chakra. That's Why Ao see's unique type of chakra in Danzo's body.
The eyes that reflect a heart is a figure of speech.
You highlighted stronger hate like that meant AP, when he's talking about someone dying and you get angry.
Their power lies in their eyes, stop trying to connect eye power with their muscles.
Sasuke says with sharingan that he can conserve chakra, he never says "WOAH, I GOT A NEW CHAKRA". The fact that he calls it CHAKRA SIGHT and says that he can execute attacks before they happen should prove that it's 1000% visual.
Don't bring another vague Tobirama scan. This is a Sharingan USER proving you wrong.
Strength ≠ AP. Itachi said let me show you my clan's true strength and used Genjutsu.
And don't dare talk about Shisui without context like the ones who shove Seth down my throat every time I get into a debate referring to the sharingan.
He was talking about his own special GENJUTSU.
He said the amount of chakra in their heads was much more than regular genjutsu which puts chakra in people's heads.
Now just talk about the MS when he was referring to his own jutsu.
Enough. Sharingan doesn't boost AP or speed. IT NEVER DID AND IT NEVER WILL.
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Dont understand how they would be bitter???. Sharingan is literatlly a precog that lets you see what things happen before they do hence aim dodge. Would be foolish to argue or be bitter over it
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I suggest once y’all do speed you should look into sasukes reactions based on how much stronger his opponent is than him. So that reaction speed can be added to his speed list like other characters.
for example:
MFTL with MFTL+ reaction speed
for example:
MFTL with MFTL+ reaction speed
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Sakura's realization was about the Justu and nothing more.
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This thread has been quiet for a while. What else remains for this arc?
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We're waiting for Damage to calc KN4's feat, then we'll see how that may affect the scaling.
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Do we have a list of the rest of the relevant calcs? I don't believe that Kisame's calc is the only thing we're going to use.
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Wrath of Itachi posted a sandbox with most of the relevant calcs I think.
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Wrath Of Itachi/Naruto: Part 2 Revisions
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Here is the sandbox I made of usable calcs.
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We can add Jugo's rating in since we have a calc for him in that list.
How should we treat people who have calcs for them being augmented by Naruto's chakra like Hinata and Hiashi?
How should we treat people who have calcs for them being augmented by Naruto's chakra like Hinata and Hiashi?
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8-A I guess? Isn't that what we agreed on for the "Average Jōnin"?
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Isn't Jugo's calc Low 7-C+?
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Jugo's above the average Jonin
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Sorry, I should've been more clear.
I was talking about Hinata and Hiashi without Kurama's amp.
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Hiashi, Hizashi is Neji's father.
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Depends on how high you have Konohamaru on the Jōnin spectrum lol.
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Hmm, what if we base it between Jugo and Kakuzu, and their respective Jōnin, Konohamaru and Kakashi.
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@The_Alxhemist
I didn’t claim a multiplier on chakra equals that same multiplier on stats.However you can get an increase in power. For the sharingan specifically Tobirama specifically states you gain more strength and gain stronger ocular powers when filled with hated. Then goes on to explain the science. So yes he did mean it.
Strength
the quality or state of being physically strong.
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