Ninjago: Replacing/removing author statements

[Phsccarvalho]

The average human dies to 100-250 volts. A lightning bolt has 300 000 000 Volts. Surviving Lightning for a normal human is just extreme luck

Tell that to this guy.

 

[AigerTheKing]

Tell that to this guy.

Bro had 3000000 HP

 

[MrTayman616]

Tell that to this guy.

Bro adapted

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Spoiler: Overlord

Refer to this:

Acausality (Types 1 & 4; Predates time and reality, therefore being born before and thus being immune to The Cloud Kingdom, which can write the fate of people. Should be same as FSM)

This is fine for Acausality Type 1. If type 4 would scale to FSM then it should be fine

Biological Manipulation (1 Layer), Corruption, Mind Manipulation & Morality Manipulation (Both Types [2 Layers]; Can corrupt the souls of others through his Darkness, can use infectious crystals to corrupt the entire city and beings into crystal, and his Crystal Warriors, being powered by and shooting with the infectious crystals, can corrupt the victim and turn that victim evil)

Biological manip is fine, so is corruption,n but I don't see how this is also mind manipulation and morality manipulation without further context that is shown in the short scene. Also how does this justify the Layers when the scene is about shooting a random citizen rather than someone with resistance?

Durability: At least Low Complex Multiverse level (Exist as dark part of the Balance for 17 realms)

• Exists as dark part of the Balance for all Realms, representing the Dark side of it while FSM represented the Light side

No problem here.

• Power Nullification & Power Absorption (Darkness, an Elemental Essence, is unaffected by the Vengestone which can nullify and absorb Elemental Essence.)
  • Can use his powers without any problem whatsoever in the same room, made out of Vengestone, where Lloyd couldn't use his power
  • Vengestone nearby can nullify Elemental Powers and Essences, such as powers of Ninjas and even Wu, which was confirmed later. Being in the room full of Vengestone can nullify one's powers as seen with Ninjas being unable to use their powers in Vengestone cave

This fine. Spinjitzu still uses elemental powers as their tornadoes are still imbued by element and they were able to use but not the powers directly. Though I'm not sure it is absorption so nuke that

• Darkness Manipulation (Should be has resisted to their own powers)
  • Is Evilitself, and can literally breath Dark Matter that turns other evil.

No issues here

Spoiler: Concept Blog

Refer to this:

• importants beings responsible for balance
  • Exists as dark part of the Balance for all Realms

Good

• different laws and physics
  • different laws and physics

You should remove physics and just say different Rules, as it would be misleading, but it delivers the same intent

• The Overlord is evil itself
  • Is Evil itself

good

Spoiler: Magic

Refer to this:

• Magic is made clear to not be an Element nor an Elemental Essence, and we have WOG confirming Magic is a whole system
• Elements and Magic are two separate systems.
• Magic is split in different kinds, who can be used in a variety of ways with magical power items or without them.
  • Magic has different kinds.

Yeah the books and statements are enough. Good here

Spoiler: Spinjitzu

• The user cannot use this ability infinitely at one use. Spinjitzu can only be maintained for 15 seconds without stopping.
  • Nuke
• Airjitzu is also very exhausting and can only be maintained for less than 10 seconds without stopping.
  • Nuke

No issues with nuking

Spoiler: Elemental Masters

Refer to this:

• Some Elemental Masters can infuse their element into objects
  • Nuke

agree with nuking

• Limited Fusionism (Elemental Masters can combine their powers with one another if the elements are compatible or through a special item.
  • Limited Fusionism (Elemental Masters can combine their powers with one another if the elements are compatible or through a special item.

Yeah no issues here

• They also all originate from the same power source called Source Energy
  • They also all originate from the same power source - Source Dragons

Good

• For Resistance to their own elements, replace with scan-y here.

After Aiger's response I agree with here but preferred at least some of those examples below the linked message are used instead

snip here

Spoiler: Ghosts

Refer to this:

• Age Manipulation (In addition to eternal life, Ghosts Warriors don'tage at all)
  • Morro did not age after about 40 years of being a ghost.

It would be better to make this Longevity or Type 1 immo due to being a ghost rather than Age Manipulation

• Fate Manipulation (Thanks totheir master, the Ghost Warriors are completely unaffected by the powers of the inhabitants of the Cloud Kingdom, who control the fate of those in Ninjago)
  • Fate Manipulation (Because of Fenwick’s intervention, the Ghost Warriors are completely unaffected by the powers of the inhabitants of the Cloud Kingdom, who control the fate of those in Ninjago)

Some 3rd party interference isn't a ground to grant someone to resistance.
Disagree

• and presumably any other liquid
  • and presumably any other liquid as implied by Wu

no issue

• Ghosts' invisibility can be countered by a paranormal essence detector
  • Ghosts' invisibility can be countered by a paranormal essence detector

Good

• Incorporeality (Ghosts do not have a physical body because they are spirits)
  • Incorporeality (Ghosts do not have a physical body because they are spirits)

Good

Spoiler: Onis

Refer to this:

• (Beyond-Dimensional Existence [Type 1] & Nonexistence [Nature Type 1, Aspects 3 & 5 {Other: Space-Time & Logic}]; Oni can affect the Ethereal Divide, a realm of nothing-space, existing beyond time, space and reason.)
  • Nuke it
• Power Nullification & Power Absorption (Oni's powers are immune to Vengestone)
  • Power Nullification & Power Absorption (Oni's powers are immune to Vengestone)

Agree with these just remove power absorption

Spoiler: FSM

Refer to this:

• Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1; Exists in his own personal Realm, which is located outside the 16 Realms, and was unaffected by the Merge, who merged the Realms together, that were proven to be a set of multiplespace-time continuum)
  • Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1; Exists in his own personal Realm, which is located outside the 16 Realms, and was unaffected by the Merge, who merged the Realms together, that were proven to be a set of multiplespace-time continuum)

Being unaffected by other space-time continuums while being in one doesn't mean both have no spatial and temporal qualities, just because it is stated to exist outside. This just means they are not directly connected or outside the reach of the multiverse of 16 realms
Disagree

• Acausality (Types 1 & 4; Wields the Golden Weapons, which have been shown to be immune to any changes in time, with the wielders being unaffected as well. Predates Fate. Also, The Cloud Kingdom cannot control his destiny)
  • Acausality (Types 1 & 4; Wields the Golden Weapons, which have been shown to be immune to any changes in time, with the wielders being unaffected as well. Was born in the First Realm, therefore being born before and thus being immune to The Cloud Kingdom, which can write the fate of people. Should be immune to the Cloud Kingdom as an Oni)

No problem here For Type 1. Although you'd have to convince Finepoint as I share the same reservation for type 4

• Durability: At least Low Complex Multiverse level (Exists as the light part of the Balance)
  • Same as Overlord

ok

Spoiler: Nadakhan

Refer to this:

• it was confirmed that all Elemental Masters were trapped by Nadakhan too, twice
  • Since Jay supposedly called all of friends and allies he knew for his new team, including Elemental Master Skylor whom he knows from only Tournament of Elements, but there are no other Elemental Masters in his team, combining this with the fact that some of Elemental Masters are seen trapped in Nadakhan’s Djinn Blade, Nadakhan supposedly caught all of the Elemental Masters off screen.

no issues

Spoiler: Lloyd

Refer to this:

• were born inside the Mother Sun itself
  • Replace w/ this
• being above even Dragon Overlord
  • being above even Dragon Overlord as per Garmadon's words

good

Spoiler: Nyad

Refer to this:

• Immortality (Type 1 and 8: By merging with the sea, one's become a living embodiment of the Sea.She cannot die as long as the ocean exists.
  • Immortality (Type 1 and 8: By merging with the sea, one's become a living embodiment of the Sea as explained by Nyad, meaning she cannot die as long as the ocean exists.)

Good

Spoiler: Jay

Refer to this:

• Electricity Manipulation (Can manipulate the Element of Lightning. Itisconsistanly stated that Jay can produce 1.21 gigawatts of electricity)
  • Nuke (only author part, the ability can stay via other scans)
• further backed up by WOG
  • Nuke, ig
• Lifting Strength: At least Class T (Elemental Masters are naturally stronger than normal humans)
  • Lifting Strength: At least Class T (Can restrain Anacondrais among other Ninjas like Kai and Lloyd)

I agree here

Spoiler: Kai

Refer to this:

• Speed Amplification (Stolen from Griffin Turner, the Master of Speed. Allows the user to increase their speed by a massive amount. Should be faster than Zur, who is 2x faster than Zane)
• recreating her own Spinjitzu via tech alone
  • Nuke (only this specific scan, as it is visually shown)

I agree here

Spoiler: Kalmaar

Refer to this:

• Pain Manipulation (Was able to control Wojira by pain, even if she's stronger than him)
  • Pain Manipulation (Was able to control Wojira by pain, even if she's stronger than him)
• Was stated to be one of the strongest villains to this point
  • Nuke.
• Intelligence:Genius (Kalmaar is a battle genius, capable of outsmarting Nya, one of the smartest members of the Ninja team. He was stated to be the smartest Merlopian)
  • Nuke.

No issues here

Spoiler: Golden Weapons

Refer to this:

• Star level (Were used by The First Spinjitzu Master to create the continent of Ninjago. Created a star by destroying the Mega Weapon)
  • Star level (Were used by The First Spinjitzu Master to create the continent of Ninjago. Created a star after destroying the Megaweapon, which is visually seen in the show)

Fine with these

Spoiler: Cosmology

Refer to this:

• Time passes differently in other Realms
  • Time passes differently in other Realms as evidenced by Nadakhan crews surviving in other Realms for 200 Realms despite being regular humans and serpentines

good

• and there are differentrules and different physics in other realms.
  • different laws and physics

Same as the Concept. Same Rules but it would be better if it details what these rules are but it doesn't really change much what this things does for the overall of cosmology

• It was also confirmed by Tommy Andreason, Co-Creator of Ninjago, that outer space is not separate from the Realms, but rather a part of it. He also confirmed that Realms are not simply planets, as some of the older Ninjago lore refers to "Ninjago" as the island, not the realm (Ninjago Island is on Earth, while Earth is located within the Ninjago Realm).
  • Wu implies the Realms are seperate and parallel to Ninjago like with Cloud Kingdom and Ras wants to undo the Merge which would put the Realms back in their original state - seperated. Other Realms are also called "outside" ones. Outer space is part of the Realms as seen with Ninjas flying there while still being in Ninjago Realm.

good

• It is the only confirmed realm which the Realm Crystal cannot open a portal to get to.
  • It was stated by Yang that Realm Crystal cannot open a portal to the Departed Realm.

good

• only be reached by becoming cursed.
  • Replace w/ this.

no issues

• It is also one of the 16 realms parallel to Ninjago.
  • Replace w/ this.

no issues

• They also represent both sides of the balance.
  • Addressed in Overlord's part.

good

• Each of them exists in his own realm/dimension located outside of multiverse, and these are also places where their truest selves remain dormant. For the First Spinjitzu Master, it is the Grasslands, while the Overlord has his void.
  • It is implied that Overlord exists beyond the Realms, and the Grasslands were not shown to be part of the Realms affected by the Merge in the map, and on top of that, its said FSM's time in the Realms was over, implying that where he went to is beyond the Realm. FSM is also not present in any of the three afterlives.

No issues

• even though they previously had different flows of time
  • Time passes differently in other Realms as evidenced by Nadakhan crews surviving in other Realms for 200 Realms despite being regular humans and serpentines

Yeah was already said earlier

• Nether-Space stuff
  • Lloyd says in his journal the F5 were banished from all Realms. Nether-Space was referred to as a Realm. Rox prior to her imprisonement and after her imprisonement seemingly didn't age at all, implying different flow of time.

I guess it is fine

I've read through page 3 regarding the thunderbolt memes. So its my opinion as the current state of the thread[/SPOILER]

 

[AigerTheKing]

This fine. Spinjitzu still uses elemental powers as their tornadoes are still imbued by element and they were able to use but not the powers directly. Though I'm not sure it is absorption so nuke that

I'd like to precise Spinjitzu is a skill based techniques that even non Elemental Masters can use (Exemple: Doubloon and Arin). Its only amped when a EM who possess an Element do it cuz they can amp it with their powers (thus it would get weaker without that amp)

It says "whenever is light, there must always be shadow", and light in this context is FSM, so Overlord came right when he was born. Otherwise the statement would not hold true.

Can't we use the fact they reside in the outside Realms and thus they aren't affected

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bump?

 

[FinePoint]

Bump?

Sorry, I took a break yesterday.

I guess I can continue analyzing this, do you remember exactly where I was?

 

[AigerTheKing]

Sorry, I took a break yesterday.

I guess I can continue analyzing this, do you remember exactly where I was?

U were at FSM's type 4 Acausalitity I think

 

[FinePoint]

U were at FSM's type 4 Acausalitity I think

Ah, right.

I believe I came to the conclusion they should only have Type 1, since they have similar issues as the Overlord in regards to time probably existing but just not being "named"- but do have feats of resisting time and fate manipulation due to their status.

 

[FinePoint]

Everything from FSM all the way up to before the last spoiler seems to be all good.

Which just leaves the cosmology for me to evaluate.

 

[FinePoint]

Refer to this:

• Time passes differently in other Realms
  • Time passes differently in other Realms as evidenced by Nadakhan crews surviving in other Realms for 200 Realms despite being regular humans and serpentines
• and there are differentrules and different physics in other realms.
  • different laws and physics

Seems good.

• It was also confirmed by Tommy Andreason, Co-Creator of Ninjago, that outer space is not separate from the Realms, but rather a part of it. He also confirmed that Realms are not simply planets, as some of the older Ninjago lore refers to "Ninjago" as the island, not the realm (Ninjago Island is on Earth, while Earth is located within the Ninjago Realm).
  • Wu implies the Realms are seperate and parallel to Ninjago like with Cloud Kingdom and Ras wants to undo the Merge which would put the Realms back in their original state - seperated. Other Realms are also called "outside" ones. Outer space is part of the Realms as seen with Ninjas flying there while still being in Ninjago Realm.

Seems fine.

• It is the only confirmed realm which the Realm Crystal cannot open a portal to get to.
  • It was stated by Yang that Realm Crystal cannot open a portal to the Departed Realm.

Sure.

• only be reached by becoming cursed.
  • Replace w/ this.

Well the second thing doesn't support the first thing, it doesn't seem like they need to become cursed.

• It is also one of the 16 realms parallel to Ninjago.
  • Replace w/ this.

Good.

• Each of them exists in his own realm/dimension located outside of multiverse, and these are also places where their truest selves remain dormant. For the First Spinjitzu Master, it is the Grasslands, while the Overlord has his void.
  • It is implied that Overlord exists beyond the Realms, and the Grasslands were not shown to be part of the Realms affected by the Merge in the map, and on top of that, its said FSM's time in the Realms was over, implying that where he went to is beyond the Realm. FSM is also not present in any of the three afterlives.

For FSM this is fine, but for Overlord, it doesn't seem like "returning to the human plane of existence" has to refer to being outside the realms, since the first realm didn't even have humans.

• even though they previously had different flows of time
  • Time passes differently in other Realms as evidenced by Nadakhan crews surviving in other Realms for 200 Realms despite being regular humans and serpentines

Sure.

• Nether-Space stuff
  • Lloyd says in his journal the F5 were banished from all Realms. Nether-Space was referred to as a Realm. Rox prior to her imprisonement and after her imprisonement seemingly didn't age at all, implying different flow of time.

Sure.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Well the second thing doesn't support the first thing, it doesn't seem like they need to become cursed.

It says that it is a home for cursed souls and living beings can only go through there via portal, so I thought it implies.

For FSM this is fine, but for Overlord, it doesn't seem like "returning to the human plane of existence" has to refer to being outside the realms, since the first realm didn't even have humans.

What about the fact that after his death in Season 3, we see him in the void where he teleported Harumi to when she died, and we know that it is not Departed Realm as he threatens to send Harumi there if she does not help him?

 

[FinePoint]

It says that it is a home for cursed souls and living beings can only go through there via portal, so I thought it implies.

Which implies that normally cursed souls go there, but doesn't imply you have to be, especially if you can just portal there.

What about the fact that after his death in Season 3, we see him in the void where he teleported Harumi to when she died, and we know that it is not Departed Realm as he threatens to send Harumi there if she does not help him?

I sort of interpreted that as him threatening to leave her there, meaning she was already there.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Which implies that normally cursed souls go there, but doesn't imply you have to be, especially if you can just portal there.

Yeah that’s what I was talking about. It’s not like if you enter it, you become cursed - realm is just meant for the cursed souls if they die. Cursed Realm, after all.

I sort of interpreted that as him threatening to leave her there, meaning she was already there.

Departed Realm looks very differently.

 

[FinePoint]

Yeah that’s what I was talking about. It’s not like if you enter it, you become cursed - realm is just meant for the cursed souls if they die. Cursed Realm, after all.

Yeah.

Departed Realm looks very differently.

Maybe then. I suppose it's currently unclear.

 

[Ebihara]

BUMP

I think the CRT going to be a little too big for most staff to want to take a look.

 

[AthelChan]

BUMP

I think the CRT going to be a little too big for most staff to want to take a look.

Needs a TLDR squared comment

 

[AigerTheKing]

BUMP

I think the CRT going to be a little too big for most staff to want to take a look.

Nothing compared to what Rex would pull off

Needs a TLDR squared comment

Everything stays and gets replaced by non WoG scans from the show or books besides BDE Type 1 and maybe Acausality Type 4

 

[AsterReal]

Yes, after reading everything about three times. Just to make sure I didn't make a mistake. This seems to be fine. Maybe a TLDR at the end will help digest it all.

 

[FinePoint]

@Mr. Bambu @KingTempest

Your help would be greatly appreciated here.

 

[KingTempest]

Yeah it's fine

 

[FinePoint]

Yeah it's fine

All of it, or just the stuff I signed off on?

 

[KingTempest]

All of it, or just the stuff I signed off on?

The latter

 

[FinePoint]

The latter

Alright, thank you.

In that case, if Bambu or another evaluating staff does the same the approved portions can probably be applied.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Have you actually agreed or disagree whether the Ghost can have resistance to fate manipulation?

 

[FinePoint]

Have you actually agreed or disagree whether the Ghost can have resistance to fate manipulation?

Did I not comment on it?

If I did, please quote my previous comment.

If I didn't, please quote the relevant portion from the OP.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

If I didn't, please quote the relevant portion from the OP.

• Fate Manipulation (Thanks totheir master, the Ghost Warriors are completely unaffected by the powers of the inhabitants of the Cloud Kingdom, who control the fate of those in Ninjago)
  • Fate Manipulation (Because of Fenwick’s intervention, the Ghost Warriors are completely unaffected by the powers of the inhabitants of the Cloud Kingdom, who control the fate of those in Ninjago)

I believe you skipped Onis and Ghost and went straight to FSM

 

[FinePoint]

• Fate Manipulation (Thanks totheir master, the Ghost Warriors are completely unaffected by the powers of the inhabitants of the Cloud Kingdom, who control the fate of those in Ninjago)
  • Fate Manipulation (Because of Fenwick’s intervention, the Ghost Warriors are completely unaffected by the powers of the inhabitants of the Cloud Kingdom, who control the fate of those in Ninjago)

I believe you skipped Onis and Ghost and went straight to FSM

If I skipped a section, it's because I didn't see a problem with it.

Given the context (them having no way to stop them despite having Fate Manipulation), I think having resistance to it is sufficiently implied.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

If I skipped a section, it's because I didn't see a problem with it.

Given the context (them having no way to stop them despite having Fate Manipulation), I think having resistance to it is sufficiently implied.

um the scenario here is that Fenwick rewritten destiny so Morro would be able to escape if given the chance
Fenwick literally rewrote his destiny

 

[FinePoint]

That said, the actual wording of the justification should probably make it clear that it's implied, rather than directly stated, as it currently does.

 

[FinePoint]

um the scenario here is that Fenwick rewritten destiny so Morro would be able to escape if given the chance
Fenwick literally rewrote his destiny

Well that would just imply they didn't used to, but now do- which is still valid.

 

[AigerTheKing]

@Mr. Bambu @KingTempest

Your help would be greatly appreciated here.

From Misako:

So you know about how the First Spinjitzu Master created Ninjago, but what if I were to tell you in order for there to be light, there must be shadow, and within shadow, there is darkness. The blackest of darkness that existed from the very beginning. An evil spirit called "The Overlord."

So its impossible for Overlord to be born anytime after FSM, and we know FSM predates Ninjago

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Well that would just imply they didn't used to, but now do- which is still valid.

But the scene where the cloud kingdom member Nobu explained was pertaining to Preeminent, not Morro or the Ghost Warrior.
Queen of the Cursed is Preeminent, which the cloud kingdom cannot write the fate off. And Fenwick is convinced she cannot be stopped.

during Lloyd and Morro's fight
One Monk told Nobu that. "They must not dabble with their affairs anymore. This is for them to resolve," Implying they can do something about their fate as they watch them fall off realm to realm while they fight

 

[AigerTheKing]

But the scene where the cloud kingdom member explained was pertaining to Preeminent, not Morro or the Ghost Warrior.
Queen of the Cursed is Preeminent, which the cloud kingdom cannot write the fate off. And Fenwick is convinced she cannot be stopped.

Cool, that just means Fenwick gives the Warriors Fate Resistance but the Preeminent doesn't?

In during Lloyd and Morro's fight
One Monk told Nobu that. "They must not dabble with their affairs anymore. this is for them to resolve" Implying they can do something about their fate

Not Fenwick doing something about it by granting resistances:

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Cool, that just means Fenwick gives the Warriors Fate Resistance but the Preeminent doesn't?

What do you mean?

Not Fenwick doing something about it by granting resistances:

He was already banished from The Cloud Kingdom at this point after being chased by Nimbus

 

[AigerTheKing]

What do you mean?

That Preeminent doesn't do anything about Fate, but Fenwick does for Ghost Warriors

He was already banished from The Cloud Kingdom at this point after being chased by Nimbus

No, he was litterally in the same episode Morro was when they went into the Realm

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

No, he was litterally in the same episode Morro was when they went into the Realm

Um no?
The fight with Lloyd happen in Season 5 episode 10
And Morro being chased is in Season 5 Episode 6

That Preeminent doesn't do anything about Fate, but Fenwick does for Ghost Warriors

He did by claiming to his followers that Morro defied destinies when in truth he was actually writing his destiny to escape the cursed realm which made many of the Cloud Kingdom writers believe they have no control about him until Nobu figured the truth out

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Furthermore Fenwick already said his destiny was secured when Nobu told him that the Ninja's are in trouble, and seeing Fenwick with the Ghost warriors
Yet Nobu was able to rewrite his destiny into being chased by Nimbus

So no Fenwick doesn't have the ability to grant someone resistance to Fate manipulation

 

[AigerTheKing]

Um no?
The fight with Lloyd happen in Season 5 episode 10
And Morro being chased is in Season 5 Episode 6

Fenwick wasn't banished when he helped Bansha, Morro and Soul Archer hop into the Realm

He did by claiming to his followers that Morro defied destinies when in truth he was actually writing his destiny to escape the cursed realm which made many of the Cloud Kingdom writers believe they have no control about him until Nobu figured the truth out

How can they grant a resistance to Morro and the Warriors if Fenwick can't affect them? I don't understand your argument here?

Furthermore Fenwick already said his destiny was secured when Nobu told him that the Ninja's are in trouble, and seeing Fenwick with the Ghost warriors
Yet Nobu was able to rewrite his destiny into being chased by Nimbus

Fenwick was talking metaphorically as he didn't use his powers to lead the Ninjas into where Nimbus lived

So no Fenwick doesn't have the ability to grant someone resistance to Fate manipulation

Fenwick not being resistant to Fate hax himself ≠ Fenwick giving someone a resistance. He was able to let the Curse Warriors inside the Realm which was already something impossible without the intervention of his powers

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Fenwick was talking metaphorically as he didn't use his powers to lead the Ninjas into where Nimbus lived

um he is talking about his own Destiny, not theirs?

Fenwick not being resistant to Fate hax himself ≠ Fenwick giving someone a resistance. He was able to let the Curse Warriors inside the Realm which was already something impossible without the intervention of his powers

He did it by rewriting the destiny that lets Morro escape, so the Cursed warrior or ghost warrior can also escape
They are only intended for Morro to be unable to escape the Cursed realm due to his influence
But clearly Fenwick rewrote destiny to let him escape.

Fenwick wasn't banished when he helped Bansha, Morro and Soul Archer hop into the Realm

Yet after that in season 5 episode 10
Monk directly told Nobu not to interfere with their destiny anymore and let their affairs play out as they are supposed to be neutral

How can they grant a resistance to Morro and the Warriors if Fenwick can't affect them? I don't understand your argument here?

Because he didn't? he only write his destiny that he can escape cursed realm while claiming they wrote it in a way that he shouldn't be able to escape to create the idea that he can defy fate thus no one would bother writing his destiny.

The thing with Morro and Cloud Kingdom is context-dependent, and I'm seeing it as being lost in translation
If this gets through, I will try to get clips of the 2 episodes and present my own counterargument in a separate CRT introducing scans and evidence that wasn't presented here yet