didn't I just explain why Momo can't be used as the point of reference
That was for another shot. I'm referring to this one:
That has the exact same problem of Momo not being next to tree but even worse, there's no way to compare Momo to the tree hereThat was for another shot. I'm referring to this one:
Momo is closer to the screen than the tree. Thus it would be a low-ball of the tree's true thickness, and yet it'd still get better results than using the nails (Or at least I assume it would since her head should be around 20ish cm and the tree's a good bit thicker than her head is tall).
Being in front of the tree means she appears bigger than she actually is. Thus the width of the tree is low balled. The wiki allows lowballs, and thus you can use that method. The thickness you would get would be greater than the 25cm you calculated, and that seems more accurate just from eyeballing it from like, 99% of the other shots.
No it would be very inaccurate due to the fact Momo isn't anywhere close to the tree, the current measurement would already work as the lowball
Inaccurately low, yeah. Which like, the wiki is fine with. If the tree were closer to the foreground than Momo, than yeah, you couldn't use that cuz it inflates the result. But Momo being a little closer to the screen than the tree means you low-ball the result. But I'll look more into it and see if I can get a better diameter.
No, not that it would be low. It's just inaccurate in general since you can't compare Momo to the tree
As far as I'm aware, the wiki has accepted calculations that do just that because the result is lower than if the person was standing right beside said object, meaning the result will be lower than it should be. Size-wise tho it would get much more realistic results than the nails. But I'll look for smth better.
For a rating on the second key.
edit: just realized I linked the wrong message, oops https://vsbattles.com/threads/nobara-downgrade.182743/post-7247632
Her fight with Eso and Kechizu is her third key
Isn't there the same problem of her being weaker than an 8-C Maki tho?
Very much so, she's not even on the same level as Maki or Yuji yet going with 8-B physicals ignores of lot her physicals explicitly not scaling to the 8-C or 8-B guys
Do you think I'm good to apply the changes? I've got 2 agrees
First I ever heard of a nue upscale
Changes applied, this can be closed
oh when I had calculated this it came out to 9-B+ to 9-A (hasn't been evaluated yet)
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Did Nue hurt anyone ever at some point? Cuz if so we can scale it off that. Cuz that feat's just durability.
Ive seen people before who would say shes a miwa victim lol
I can honestly see that, with Miwa's simple domain.
Nobara looked for Momo to duck Miwa trust in the miwa agendaSomeone should make that match-up
Maki shouldn't be 8-C is what it is. Not only is Maki actually very capable physically, even being seen as capable of harming Todo as that was the original plan for dealing with him for the event, but also as seen by playful cloud, a tool which relies on the physical strength of it's user to harm others, she has the physical strength to harm special grade cursed spirits.
I wouldn't go that far. Yuji is very obviously still physically superior. Nobara simply has superior cursed energy control and output at the time. I'd like to see Nobara hurt Hanami as badly as Yuji did.
Wrong, the plan was to use Panda.
Playful Cloud is an amp, and doesn't scale to regular physicals
No one ignored it, it just simply doesn't hold up with she is currently established at being is what was pointed out after the fact, besides she barely bruised the dude after off guarding him with a direct blow to the head at that if anything you could argue its an outlier for her
This being the fact as well just seals it
She does. The grade 2 that did a 9-A feat is just a strong one
She doesn't have a scaling chain to Miwa and has pretty bad antifeats for 8-C because she's clearly way below Maki
