Eminiteable
He/Him- 7,389
- 6,605
Marco and Jozu haven't shown any feats of intermediate Busoshoku Haki and thus should only be rated as initial due to their feats of interacting with Logia users.
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Skill with Armament that even prevents the Navy Admiral from leaving
I see where you're coming from and that would make sense with different types of devil fruits, but, Marco and Jozu aren't really comparable to Pica's fruit. Marco's at least is 100% his body now due to a devil fruit being used. Jozu might be applicable as he's only seemingly turning his outer layer into diamond due to Kuzan's ice effecting his insides.These guys can put Haki on their diamond and talons. It's as if Pica could put Haki on his earth, which he can't. Infusing Haki on their devil fruit parts should count as imbuement, as even clothes are something that can be imbued.
We discussed this before If I remember right it was regarding Shanks and the conclusion was we don't treat the skill of someone's haki the same as their potency. Marco and Jozu would have the potency to touch Kuzan and Kizaru's real bodies but that wouldn't justify them being skilled enough to use Intermediate or Advanced buso.On top of that, we can see in the case of Akainu, only a certain level of Haki can touch certain logias with Haki. These guys are capable of combatting admirals who have pretty high haki.
This is supported by Rayleigh being able to touch Kizaru because of his Haki
I don't think this is a fair comparison, in the pre-timeskip we have Advanced Haki users like Marigold and Sentomaru who obviously are far weaker and probably less experienced than Marco and Jozu.We shouldn't be too harsh on how people get higher levels of Buso, even when people like Tashigi can get it due to putting small haki on their weapons.
Jozu could work.I see where you're coming from and that would make sense with different types of devil fruits, but, Marco and Jozu aren't really comparable to Pica's fruit. Marco's at least is 100% his body now due to a devil fruit being used. Jozu might be applicable as he's only seemingly turning his outer layer into diamond due to Kuzan's ice effecting his insides.
With this being said then we need to note the potency and such.We discussed this before If I remember right it was regarding Shanks and the conclusion was we don't treat the skill of someone's haki the same as their potency. Marco and Jozu would have the potency to touch Kuzan and Kizaru's real bodies but that wouldn't justify them being skilled enough to use Intermediate or Advanced buso.
that's fairI don't think this is a fair comparison, in the pre-timeskip we have Advanced Haki users like Marigold and Sentomaru who obviously are far weaker and probably less experienced than Marco and Jozu.
Basically his Zoan form has a physical body that wears the flames of resurrection constantly, I think his talons don't have flames on them (or maybe just very little).With Marco isn't it stated that he's covered in his flames?
Koka could be a case of potency you're right. Although i guess blocking out Smiley/Caesar's poison was something only Koka could do in comparison to normal buso.With this being said then we need to note the potency and such.
Because there are people with advanced applications and shit potency.
I'm starting to think of hardening as a potency aspect. Because there's really no difference from a hardening user and a non hardening user.
got it.I guess this can go through, but I wanna change something about this, so I won't hold up your CRT. I'll just change it later