Plot Mainpulation for Date A Live

[ItsukaSassuke]

I found the description of Westcott's Beelzebub abilities rather brief. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Isaac_Westcott
Specifically, it is as follows :
BFR (One of Beelzebub's abilities, he is able to instantaneously trap the opponents in fictional worlds based on true stories, preventing them to to use any powers or abilities)

Thực ra, thế giới của Beelzebub không hoàn toàn là một thế giới hư cấu, mà đúng hơn, như Nia mô tả, là một thực tại tương tự như Khu phố của các linh hồn – một không gian độc lập với thực tại, được hình thành từ những giấc mơ và câu chuyện.

And, those targeted into this world will blend in and become part of the story

And now we need to look at the definition of plot manipulation.
Plot Manipulation is the ability to create, destroy, or control the plot that governs reality. Commonly found in metafictional stories, the plot can be understood as a fundamental aspect of reality once one views that reality as fictional. It is the description of the world that doesn't only describe, but determines, reality itself

Based on my scans, I think Beelzebub's ability isn't just ordinary BFR, but rather a form of plot manipulation( limited) ? And the Beelzebub user ( Westcott, Mio,Nia ) will have this feat

 

[MSahla]

Thực ra, thế giới của Beelzebub không hoàn toàn là một thế giới hư cấu, mà đúng hơn, như Nia mô tả, là một thực tại tương tự như Khu phố của các linh hồn – một không gian độc lập với thực tại, được hình thành từ những giấc mơ và câu chuyện.

Why is this not in English...

 

[ItsukaSassuke]

Why is this not in English...

Sorry, I may have forgotten to translate that part into English while editing

 

[CongratulatorySnail399]

Very straightforward and simple. I agree.

 

[Wavoizm]

This is not Plot Manipulation in any sense. Plot Manipulation is the ability to directly alter, control, or influence the narrative itself. Simply transferring spirits to a world populated by fairy tales does not qualify.

At no point is he shown manipulating the story, its events, or the narrative. He also isn’t controlling the fairy tales within Ashufiriya; he’s merely sending the spirits to a parallel world which imitates the real fairytale. Even in the scan you provided, states it’s all from imagination and says it’s an adjacent world, thus it’s not the real thing.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Yeah this is just BFR, maybe at best you can give him subjective reality along with it

 

[Hecky2222]

This sounds exactly like Mitsuki and Tom Taylor abilities which are Subjective Reality and BFR together

 

[AyOgUyS]

My thoughts are the same as Hecky's and Wavoizm's.

 

[Cipher72]

Plot Manipulation is the ability to create, destroy, or control the plot that governs reality. Commonly found in metafictional stories, the plot can be understood as a fundamental aspect of reality once one views that reality as fictional. It is the description of the world that doesn't only describe, but determines, reality itself

Tell me which one of your scans prove these

• PLOT as a fundamental aspect
• The Plot determining the story
• The Plot governing reality
• The Plot seeing reality as fictional

You can have a character trap another in a story without having plot Manipulation, Plot Manipulation is only given to Characters that can manipulate Plot with said plot being a fundamental aspect that describes, governs and determines reality

The term Metaphysical Aspects refers to aspects of existence which are not part of the physical world, or spiritual aspects like mind or soul, but define or govern the world from the background.

Nothing here establishes Plot as a fundamental metaphysical aspect at best you can get text Manipulation and Subjective Reality but it's most likely a type of Fate Manipulation

“Everything written in Rasiel is fact. Flip that on its head, and…” She grinned, then boldly and slowly raised her left hand above her head. She hooked a finger around the ornament attached to her cape and plucked it off. He saw that the hidden tip of it was in the shape of a pen.
Nia adjusted her grip on the pen and then started to write in the book hovering before her.
“…”
“…”
“…”
“…Um, what are you doing?” Shido asked a few minutes later, when Nia showed no sign of being done.
“Hang on. Just a biiiit more,” Nia said, a serious look in her eyes, and returned once more to writing in the Angel. A few more minutes passed. “Woh-kay. That oughtta do it.” She finally lifted her face and slipped the pen back into its original position before tapping Rasiel with a finger. The Angel began to emit a hazy light.
“D-do what?” he asked nervously.
“You’ll find out soon enough.” She grinned. “See? Getting to be about time, maybe?”
“Huh? I mean—aah?!” He shrieked. But this was only natural. Because his body had started to move completely against his will. “Wh-what the—?!”

The page it was open to showed the manga she had apparently just drawn. When he looked at it closely, the characters strongly resembled him and Nia. Not only that, the details of the story were exactly the events that had transpired a moment ago.
“Th-this is…,” he stammered.
“Future Record,” she said matter-of-factly. “I told you, didn’t I? Everything written in Rasiel is fact. Even the stuff that gets written in it.”
“…?! H-how…?!” He let out a stunned cry. And of course he did. She was saying that she could create the future according to her own whims and desires. This power was beyond awesome in the truest sense of the word; it almost made her a god.

“…Ummm.” A bead of sweat rolled down Shido’s cheek. The power he’d witnessed twisted the very nature of truth in the world, but for some reason, when it was filtered through Nia, he had a hard time believing it was really all that serious.

DAL V:13​

It's just an OP fate Manipulation that can be resisted by Spirits with Astral Dresses [V:20]
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As for the parallel world let's go through what it really is

“Ha-ha! I haven’t the least intention of that. But it does seem like you will continue to be a thorn in my side should I simply leave you here,” Westcott said with a charming smile, and he moved his hand as though flipping through the pages of the book hanging in midair. “Ah, yes. This is perfect. Show me your strength. Beelzebub,” he chanted at the book. “Ashufiriya.”
“…! Tohka!” Shido cried out reflexively. He didn’t know what this attack was, but he felt a chill running down his spine.
In the next instant, the space at Tohka’s feet twisted up just as she was about to slice into Westcott, and an enormous book manifested from inside of the large hole.
“Wha—?!” She gasped and tried to leap backward.
But she was too late. The massive book slammed shut and swallowed her. She was snapped into it like she was a flower being pressed.
“Tohka!” Shido screamed, and lunged forward to try and rescue her. But just as the tips of his fingers brushed the book, it vanished into thin air.
And that wasn’t the end of it.
“Eee…!”
“Wh-what is this?!”
Cries rang out from the rest of the Spirits.
Shido hurriedly looked back at them and learned the reason for those cries. Enormous books like the one that had swallowed Tohka had appeared at the feet and backs of the Spirits.
“Ngh…!”
“Tch! Rasiel!”
“Girls! You have to—,” he shouted.
But it was pointless. One after the other, the books in the hallway closed, taking the Spirits into their pages.
“Ah! Wh-what…?!”
“Sh-Shido—”
And then they disappeared, leaving only the cries of the Spirits behind.
Able to do nothing but watch, Shido turned to Westcott with wide eyes. “Dammit! What did you do with them, you bastard?!”
“Ha-ha! No need to froth at the mouth,” Westcott said, his lips turned up in a grin. “They’re fine. You’ll see them soon enough.”
The book that had swallowed the others now manifested at Shido’s own feet. “Wh-whoa?!” he cried.
“I will have my fun with you after I take care of Elliot. Until then, stay lost in the world of fantasy.”
The book wedged Shido in among its pages and snapped shut.
“Hmm. Well, not bad for a first attempt.” Westcott turned the page as he half stroked the cover of Beelzebub. He knew that the pages inside were now inscribed with text that hadn’t been there moments earlier.

“But…where exactly are the Spirits?” one of them asked.
“Mmm.” The corners of Westcott’s mouth twisted up as he dropped his gaze to the neat text lining Beelzebub’s pages. “In a story. A vortex of people’s delusions and all that.”
“A story…?” The Wizard cocked her head curiously to one side.

So they basically got shoved inside a book and are part of a illusion or story, well kinda but not really take it from Nia the owner of the ability

“Oh… It’s nothing. Anyway, Nia? Where are we exactly?” Shido asked. “Were we swallowed up by Beelzebub?”
“Mmm.” Nia groaned, a troubled look on her face. “You’re maybe not far off the mark there. It’s definitely channeling Beelzebub, but we’re not actually inside of Beelzebub. If I had to say, it’s like we’re in this space that’s kinda like a super-teensy small-scale parallel world that Beelzebub made.”
“Parallel world…?!” Shido furrowed his brow. Parallel world. That was the name given to the other space where the Spirits lived.
“Oh, no, I just mean that roughly speaking, that’s probably the closest to what we’re looking at here, not that that’s what it actually is, y’know?” Nia said quickly. “Put simply, we’re locked up in a space that’s cut off from the outside world.”
“I—I get it,” he said slowly. “So then what’s with the outfits?”
“Hmm.” She paused for a moment. “So this is Ashufiriya. A space created based on people’s daydreams, fantasies, and stories.”
He frowned. “…Meaning?”
“Yeah, well, basically, it’s a world where all the stories collected by Beelzebub mix together,” she told him. “And once we got sucked into it, we got mixed in with the stories, too.”
“Stories?”

“Heh-heh-heh!” She grinned at him. “No fences between creations, boy. The more well-known the story, the more likely it’ll float to the surface. So of course fairy tales are the law of the land, but with this story, I’m the creator herself, see? Seems like the story was guided by that connection and manifested or whatever.”
“I-is that how it works?” he asked. “I assumed it was just fairy tales.”
“O’ course it’s not,” she told him. “Any story anyone’s come up with exists in some corner of this world somewhere. More recognizable characters that are more well-known, even if they’re more recent, they’ll be walking around clear as day. Ah, speaking of, that’s the world’s most famous mouse—”

DAL V:14, Chapter 4 - Fairy Tale​

Essentially the place is akin to a parallel world but this very world is a composite of fantasies and stories
The only way to escape this world was to find a character powerful enough to do such

“…! Right. I wanted to ask about that, too. How exactly are we supposed to escape?”
Nia crossed her arms, a troubled look on her face. “The for sure way would be Westcott using Beelzebub and opening up the channel one more time, but…”
“Wh-whoa. Hold up…” Shido scowled. They couldn’t go pinning their hopes on the enemy who had captured them. First of all, if Westcott were to release them, that would no doubt mean that he’d achieved all his own objectives.
“Outside of that…” She paused thoughtfully. “I guess our only option’d be to find a character with enough power to smash this world from the inside. You know, like the hero in a story breaking free, some kind of almighty superhero.”
“That’d be convenient,” he said. “But does a character like that even exist?”
“Hmm.” She crossed her arms. “Well, we got all kinds of stories from all over and all eras mixed together in this world, y’know? There’s gotta be one like that somewhere in here. But we don’t know where they are, and even if we found them, we don’t know if they’d actually help us or not.”

Or find a magical item

“Mm-hmm, right. Yeah,” Nia responded. “Very broadly speaking, this world allows for pretty much anything, so any item that’s treated like it grants wishes inside of a story should be okay. Like the magic lamp in ‘Aladdin’ or the magic hammer from ‘Little One-Inch.’ Prob’ly characters from manga or video games who could teleport and stuff, but my bet is, more people know the magical items, so those should be easier to find.”

But in the end they were saved by Shido from a Doujin...

Spoiler

Battling the witches’ magic, he easily cut through the demon’s metal bat and kept going to cut a hole in the demon itself. Like the wolf, the demon let out an earth-shattering shriek and changed into a ripped-out page.
But Shido did not stop his steady advance. Nimbly and yet powerfully, he manipulated Sandalphon like one of his own limbs as he slashed and hacked at the assembled villains.
Shido gaped, stunned at the sight. “Wh-what is going on…?”
“Shido!” Tohka and the others came running over to him. “Are you okay? You’re not hurt?!”
“Y-yeah… I’m fine. But what on earth is…?” Baffled, he turned his eyes back toward the fight with the villains unfolding before them.
“That is definitely you, huh?” Kotori’s brow was similarly furrowed. “You use some kind of avatar technique or something?”
“No, pretty sure I was never the apprentice of a ninja,” he replied slowly, still staring at the battle.
“Hmm?” Nia put a thoughtful hand to her chin. “So, like, maybe boy number two is a character in this world?”
“Huh?” He frowned dubiously yet again. There was indeed a certain logic to what she said. But in that case, a different question came to mind.
And that was only right. This was a fantasy space where stories mixed together. So long as Shido wasn’t featured in a story, the character Shido shouldn’t exist—
“Aaaaah!” Natsumi abruptly shouted.
“Wh-what, Natsumi?”
“…I—I know…” With a trembling finger, she pointed at the Shido clashing with the villains. “I…know who he is!”
“What?” Shido said eagerly. “Really?!”
“R-really. I mean… We all know him! That guy—that Shido, we drew him last month!”
“…!!”
Shido and the Spirits all gasped, their eyebrows shooting up.
Now that she mentioned it, right. There was that. The story he thought didn’t exist. A story with Shido Itsuka as the hero.
Last month, they had concocted a plan to make Nia weak in the knees after she’d insisted that she could only love two-dimensional characters. And that plan had been to draw a manga with Shido as the main character and get Nia to read it.
“B-but,” he protested. “That was a doujinshi! The hero of that story coming to save us now, I mean, it’s just too pat!”
“Nyuh-uh.” Nia shook her head slowly. “I told you, boy. There are no walls between creations. So long as the story exists, it’s possible for it to be a part of this world. And all the artists who drew that particular story are assembled here now. You couldn’t ask for more of a connection to lure the character out!”

Characters turn into pages when they die

“Wh-what?! You?! Showing up out of the blue, talking all tough!” The wolf looked down at its severed arm and glared at Shido.
But in the next moment, Shido drew Sandalphon and neatly sliced the wolf’s massive bulk in two.
“Ah… Aaaaaauuuugh?!” Shrieking with the pain of death, the split wolf turned into a page torn out of a book and fluttered to the ground.

DAL; V14; Chapter 5 - Hero​

You got any ideas about how to get back to our world? We have to get back as soon as possible.”
“Oh yeah.” Shido nodded nonchalantly. “You let me handle that.”
“Huh?!” Kotori let out a cry of surprise. But of course she did. Shido was so casual about the fact that he held their fate in his hands. “Y-you can get us out of here?”
“Uh-huh.” Shido indicated Sandalphon in his hand. “This world was created with the power of an Angel. The power of another Angel should be able to break it down. Our existence might be fictional, but the Angel I can use in this world is the real deal. However, all I can do is make an exit out of this world. Which means there’s a good chance you’ll walk back into your world and straight into Westcott.”

Essentially the world is a fictional parallel world made of all stories from which you can only escape with the power of another angel so what was this yap for, well that's simple there's no underlying Metaphysical aspect that describes reality it's just a fantasy world inhabited by Characters from various stories created by an angel not to mention no-one at any point really manipulates anything.
So you can put me in disagreement with this proposal

 

[Vesxpura]

agree fra