Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon Revision

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Currently, a few Pokemon from SMD, such as Mega Rayquaza and Mega Mewtwo are scaled to the high end of this calc when it was added. However, on said calc's page, the high end (which is a calc for a different premise) was not accepted, as it relied on multiple assumptions that were not entirely accurate (Dark Matter directly pulling the planet when it was instead stated in the same scene that the planet was heading towards the sun since the Tree of Life had lost power, use of obvious cinematic time with multiple fades to black and cuts as an exact timeframe, etc.).

The Pokemon who scale from SMD should be scaled to the calc's accepted low-end, which was for a substantiated premise, and resulted in ~239 Zettatons/Planet level.

 

[Cropfist]

I agree with this.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I (unfortunately) agree as well.

 

[Dark649]

I also agree.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Let's go!

Sold.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I (unfortunately) agree as well.

Patiently awaiting potential Tier 3 stuff (pls stahp gimping every non-Sinnoh legendary, Nintendo).

 

[NeoZex6399]

I agree whit this.

(feels bad ;_

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Well, I'm sad now.....I agree.....Unless we REALLY want to say Dark Matter is 2-C for petrifying Arceus. ovo

At least we have Low 2-C Explorers of Time, Darkness and Sky.

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

As much as this downgrade hurts, i agree with this

 

[Imaginym]

I agree, although, I'm not really that sad for the downgrade, harsh as that may seem to say. It's a downgrade, but it seems justified, reasonable, & adequately considerate of the lore. As long as it's accurate, it's good, IMHO.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

.....downgrade~.....

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It seems to already have been done.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

NOICE~

 

[Dark649]

I did it very quickly, i also put a picture of Manga Mega Mewtwo vs 50 % Zygarde on Zygarde page to confirm his tier.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

At least we have Low 2-C Explorers of Time, Darkness and Sky.

Wait we do?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Pretty sure Darkrai isn't Low 2-C just because of PokePark and the Darkrai Movie. And I doubt Cresselia is Low 2-C in anything other than Mystery Dungeon. Plus a lot of Darkrai's extra hax came from his Low 2-C feats in Mystery Dungeon Time, Darkness and Sky.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I still need to calc that black hole feat.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Ohh nvm lol for an honest second I thought you were talking about Mewtwo, Deoxys and Rayquaza.

(Though part of me hopes one day they become Low 2-C ovo).

And speaking of Pokepark I might replay both games to see if any good feats for other pokemon come from them since surprisingly, Pokepark has some good material.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Btw guys I forgot to tell you something I found from Pokepark 2......

Apparently....when Darkrai teleported Pikachu into its dream world when putting it asleep......Piplup....was able to find its way inside....

so......dream manipulation piplup anyone??? ovo

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Was Arceus implied to be capable of escaping said petrification ? I mean, it COULD count ( could is obvious ly bolded for emphasis, because I an uncertain ) , because IF Arceus couldn't escape it or didn't escape until Dark Matter was destroyed, it would actually be a good feat IMO . Yeah it's a long shot.

One of those weird feats from pokemon games. I can see Dream Manipulation piplup TBH, but it may be an "outlier" of sort , key word is may.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I actually think it isnt an outlier to be perfectly honest.

For one, we know Pokepark Piplup is completley different from average ones or Dawn's, so it can simply be given a different tab.

Secondly, unlike the 1st Pokepark game, Piplup hardly has any apperances in Pokepark 2 and it traveling into Pikachu's dream is sort of the last appearance we see it do something (aside from the final battle against Darkrai and his team in Wish Park, where he doesnt do anything).