Possible small addition to super forms

[JJSliderman]

Currently, it’s accepted that Mephiles has Low-Godly regen, as he’s capable of regenerating a physical body as a non-tangible shadow. Since Solaris has all of Mephiles’ abilities, and has an explicitly pointed out core consciousness, I feel it’s feasible that this consciousness in the Solaris fight is actually a representation of Mephiles, since Mephiles was intended to be Solaris’s mind.

This is relevant because, despite Mephiles being able to regenerate a physical form from a non-physical state, when the super forms destroyed the physical form of Solaris’s consciousness, it was not able to recreate itself.

So, I propose Super forms get possible regeneration negation up to a low-godly level, for being able to prevent Solaris’s mind (which feasibly has the same abilities as Mephiles) from regenerating itself.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

For reference: Profile with the accepted ability.

Solaris does indeed have abilities accepted as scales from Mephiles.

As such, I agree with the revision.

 

[JJSliderman]

Bump

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Currently, it’s accepted that Mephiles has Low-Godly regen, as he’s capable of regenerating a physical body as a non-tangible shadow. Since Solaris has all of Mephiles’ abilities, and has an explicitly pointed out core consciousness, I feel it’s feasible that this consciousness in the Solaris fight is actually a representation of Mephiles, since Mephiles was intended to be Solaris’s mind.

This is relevant because, despite Mephiles being able to regenerate a physical form from a non-physical state, when the super forms destroyed the physical form of Solaris’s consciousness, it was not able to recreate itself.

So, I propose Super forms get possible regeneration negation up to a low-godly level, for being able to prevent Solaris’s mind (which feasibly has the same abilities as Mephiles) from regenerating itself.

I agree with this

 

[Remus1998]

Didn't they destroy Solaris' consciousness across time, how would Low-Godly regen from that?

 

[JJSliderman]

Sure, but Solaris’s consciousness was clearly a tangible entity, unlike the incorporeal shadow form that Mephiles took. So, if it was physical, then Solaris’s consciousness with Mephiles’s powers could not make a new physical form of the consciousness after the physical consciousness form was destroyed.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Following

 

[omegabronic]

More over solaris couldn't regenerate from getting decapitared during the battle

 

[JJSliderman]

I did consider it is possible that when the Supers wiped out Solaris’s physical consciousness they also wiped out his incorporeal mind, or that the ball itself was incorporeal and super forms have some enhanced non physical interaction showing here. I’m open to multiple ideas.

 

[omegabronic]

I did consider it is possible that when the Supers wiped out Solaris’s physical consciousness they also wiped out his incorporeal mind, or that the ball itself was incorporeal and super forms have some enhanced non physical interaction showing here. I’m open to multiple ideas.

I mean it doesn't matter really, if it is part of the body then it should have the regen

 

[ShakeResounding]

Pretty simple, I agree with this.

 

[JJSliderman]

I mean it doesn't matter really, if it is part of the body then it should have the regen

If they wiped out the incorporeal mind directly then it wouldn’t be regen negation, cuz Solaris doesn’t have mid-godly. So I just want to make sure.

 

[JED]

Since I literally came up with this idea last year, I agree (but I take credit if this goes through)

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

This is already listed as being mind manipulation.

 

[ShakeResounding]

There's also the fact that they shattered Solaris' armor, which it wasn't able to regenerate.

 

[JJSliderman]

This is already listed as being mind manipulation.

I know, I made this under the pretense that Solaris’s consciousness was the manifestation of Mephiles; who had low-godly; and that Solaris’s consciousness in the boss fight was physical (since Sonic bounces off when crashing into it like he does with the light shells), so that Sonic destroying the physical form of the consciousness and it not coming back was signifying that the incorporeal consciousness couldn’t recreate a physical form. I did also posit some alternatives though, so if I’m wrong I would appreciate clarification:

I did consider it is possible that when the Supers wiped out Solaris’s physical consciousness they also wiped out his incorporeal mind, or that the ball itself was incorporeal and super forms have some enhanced non physical interaction showing here. I’m open to multiple ideas.

 

[omegabronic]

There's also the fact that they shattered Solaris' armor, which it wasn't able to regenerate.

Forget the armor, they blew up his head off

 

[JJSliderman]

I didn’t count the shells because it was specifically stated that they were anchoring Solaris in the dimension, so arguably he just chose not to regenerate them.

 

[MysticMania]

I agree. I've never thought of this before.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

@DarkDragonMedeus @Maverick_Zero_X thoughts?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Seems fine.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Ditto.

 

[ShakeResounding]

"Regeneration Negation (Up to Low-Godly; Solaris was incapable of recreating itself after the Super Trio defeated it by striking the consciousness held in its core, which should retain Mephiles' level of regeneration due to him representing Solaris' cunning mind in contrast to Iblis' raw power)".

Thoughts? Suggestions? Tweaks?

 

[omegabronic]

"Regeneration Negation (Up to Low-Godly; Solaris was incapable of recreating itself after the Super Trio struck the consciousness held in its core, which should retain Mephiles' level of regeneration due to him representing Solaris' cunning mind in contrast to Iblis' raw power)".

Thoughts? Suggestions? Tweaks?

ad in the fact that sonic decapitated solaris also

 

[ShakeResounding]

ad in the fact that sonic decapitated solaris also

I forget when exactly this happens, can you pull up a clip from the boss that shows this? I'm in class so I'd rather not, I can edit it in when I'm free

 

[omegabronic]

I forget when exactly this happens, can you pull up a clip from the boss that shows this? I'm in class so I'd rather not, I can edit it in when I'm free

 

[ShakeResounding]

What the ****? How have I never noticed this? I feel like I've never seen this happen before despite me combing through the Last Story more times than I wanna admit

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

"Regeneration Negation (Up to Low-Godly; Solaris was incapable of recreating itself after the Super Trio struck the consciousness held in its core, which should retain Mephiles' level of regeneration due to him representing Solaris' cunning mind in contrast to Iblis' raw power)".

Thoughts? Suggestions? Tweaks?

Seems fine to me, but we still need one more staff to agree.

 

[omegabronic]

What the ****? How have I never noticed this? I feel like I've never seen this happen before despite me combing through the Last Story more times than I wanna admit

skill issue

 

[JJSliderman]

"Regeneration Negation (Up to Low-Godly; Solaris was incapable of recreating itself after the Super Trio struck the consciousness held in its core, which should retain Mephiles' level of regeneration due to him representing Solaris' cunning mind in contrast to Iblis' raw power)".

Thoughts? Suggestions? Tweaks?

I think it could work as long as the super forms didn’t outright destroy Solaris’s incorporeal mind, which admittedly I’m still unsure about.

 

[omegabronic]

I think it could work as long as the super forms didn’t outright destroy Solaris’s incorporeal mind, which admittedly I’m still unsure about.

well, they decapitate him and he can't regenerate from it

 

[JJSliderman]

It’s possible he just chose not to regenerate those parts, Eggman said that the light shells were anchoring Solaris.

 

[omegabronic]

It’s possible he just chose not to regenerate those parts, Eggman said that the light shells were anchoring Solaris.

it was literally his own head tho

 

[JJSliderman]

Sort of, in his second phase he just seems to not have it either, and this was when Eggman said Solaris was unbeatable.

 

[omegabronic]

Sort of, in his second phase he just seems to not have it either, and this was when Eggman said Solaris was unbeatable.

the damage from the previous battle could not be healed, him changing his appearance doesn't mean much of anything really

 

[JJSliderman]

Hmm, well assuming the regen applies to Solaris’s “armor” as well, I guess that’s fine.

 

[omegabronic]

Hmm, well assuming the regen applies to Solaris’s “armor” as well, I guess that’s fine.

it was straight up his head tho, but ok

 

[Eseseso]

This seems good.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Agreed

 

[HenshinIntervention]

I love this moment, shows that Sonic is capable of scaling directly to the armor