Question about Higher Dimensional Existence

[Mamaroza]

Character X is said to have evolved into a higher dimension and character Y used a phrase like "he has now transcended this dimension" to confirm this, can character X be 4D without qualitative transcendence?

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Well seems like it

 

[Mamaroza]

Well seems like it

What do you mean?

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Character X is said to have evolved into a higher dimension

This is what we can take as r>f atleast., Well sometimes this context is also not enough in some cases iirc.

Y used a phrase like "he has now transcended this dimension" to confirm this

And since there is more context it seems me that he can easily 4D

 

[Benimōru]

Character X is said to have evolved into a higher dimension and character Y used a phrase like "he has now transcended this dimension" to confirm this, can character X be 4D without qualitative transcendence?

Such statements like transcendence and evolving into a higher dimension require more proof. This is also mentioned on the FAQ page, where it says that it has to be proved in detail whether such statements are qualified as qualitatively superior or not. Just because it says "higher dimension", you can't take it as qualitatively superior to the lower realms.

Something A being said to "transcend" something B in real life can refer to the former being superior to the latter in some qualities in a notable way, but still roughly compatible. It does not necessarily mean transcendence not in an immeasurable way that would be graphically indescribable, such as A's qualities being superior to B by infinite amounts. With this in mind, statements of realities or beings with transcendence over space & time/the universe/etc., on their own, are not assumed to refer to qualitatively superiority, unless of course further context may elaborate on and contextualize this.

And Firestorm808's explanation:

Also, since when did being called higher dimensional mean anything on this site? The whole point of the Tiering FAQ is to say that words of transcendence and higher dimensionality mean nothing unless you show characteristics of qualitative superiority. Showing the characteristics of qualitative superiority is all that matters, not names and labels.

 

[Benimōru]

This is what we can take as r>f atleast., Well sometimes this context is also not enough in some cases iirc.

What we call R>F does not by itself qualify for higher dimensional existence. This is also stated on the HDE page.

Simply viewing 3-dimensional objects, entities, or constructs as fiction does not qualify them as Higher-Dimensional, as they are still portrayed as regular 3-dimensional beings.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

What we call R>F does not by itself qualify for higher dimensional existence. This is also stated on the HDE page.

Ic.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Character X is said to have evolved into a higher dimension and character Y used a phrase like "he has now transcended this dimension" to confirm this, can character X be 4D without qualitative transcendence?

You can be 10D 100D or even Inf-Dimensional without having qualitative superiority/trancendence between those dimensions. Dimensionality and tiers are two different things now, so yes a 4D being can be 4D without qualitative transcendence.

 

[Mamaroza]

Such statements like transcendence and evolving into a higher dimension require more proof. This is also mentioned on the FAQ page, where it says that it has to be proved in detail whether such statements are qualified as qualitatively superior or not. Just because it says "higher dimension", you can't take it as qualitatively superior to the lower realms.

3D beings cannot perceive it and are unaware of its existence, would this be supporting evidence for HDE?

 

[Benimōru]

3D beings cannot perceive it and are unaware of its existence, would this be supporting evidence for HDE?

It depends on what you mean by them not being able to "perceive" him. Is it because he has evolved into another dimension (i.e. no longer exists in the lower realm), or is it directly related to his existence? If it is a direct reference to his existence, that might support it a bit. But for me it is not enough on its own. Although IDK what those more knowledgeable than me would say. But there is a high possibility that they will say that this is not enough