Question about passive Hax

[Optimus.negz]

Hello, I’d like to hear a moderator’s response regarding passive hax by definition. So, What should be the speed of a character to be able to easily target an opponent who has a passive ability such as PowerNull or Erasure Existence, etc... ?

 

[MSahla]

So, What should be the speed of a character to be able to easily target an opponent who has a passive ability such as PowerNull or Erasure Existence, etc... ?

This is not about what speed is it. If the Character manage to catch someone with those passive haxes without being erased or nullified, then the character simply just have Resistances to those haxes.

 

[Optimus.negz]

This is not about what speed is it. If the Character manage to catch someone with those passive haxes without being erased or nullified, then the character simply just have Resistances to those haxes.

You're not answering my question; I'm only talking about speed

 

[AyOgUyS]

Hello, I’d like to hear a moderator’s response regarding passive hax by definition. So, What should be the speed of a character to be able to easily target an opponent who has a passive ability such as PowerNull or Erasure Existence, etc... ?

Well Immeasurable speed allows one to travel infinite distances within negative time and hop between time periods, so a character like that would be able to avoid most forms of passive ability effects

 

[Optimus.negz]

Well Immeasurable speed allows one to travel infinite distances within negative time and hop between time periods, so a character like that would be able to avoid most forms of passive ability effects

The assive hax acts directly on the cause and effect

 

[MSahla]

You're not answering my question; I'm only talking about speed

Again, the context of your question isn't about speed, but more like resistance. There isn’t a single “required speed” that guarantees success against passive abilities like Power Nullification or Existence Erasure. It’s not the deciding factor once you’re dealing with passive, automatic effects, because passive is usually omnidirectional and always affecting everything nearby instantly, and it is not something that is reactable. In this case, you need some resistance to face it.

The speed will matter if the ability has a trigger delay; like the opponent needs to perceive you first or consciously activate the ability. If you're faster than the activation of said ability then you can just blitz them before they activate their passive abilities. But this is assuming if there's a trigger delay.
So it's not about what speed is it, it's about how fast you are compared to that opponent or do you have a resistances against it.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Yeah if someone has Immeasurable Speed against a Passive Hax user who doesn't have it. Then that could work.

Either that or they have to have resistance to the hax, or have Causality Manip of their own

 

[Optimus.negz]

Again, the context of your question isn't about speed, but more like resistance. There isn’t a single “required speed” that guarantees success against passive abilities like Power Nullification or Existence Erasure. It’s not the deciding factor once you’re dealing with passive, automatic effects, because passive is usually omnidirectional and always affecting everything nearby instantly, and it is not something that is reactable. In this case, you need some resistance to face it.

The speed will matter if the ability has a trigger delay; like the opponent needs to perceive you first or consciously activate the ability. If you're faster than the activation of said ability then you can just blitz them before they activate their passive abilities. But this is assuming if there's a trigger delay.
So it's not about what speed is it, it's about how fast you are compared to that opponent or do you have a resistances against it.

If the timeframe isn’t specified, what default values do we use? Always on a ‘passive’ hax that will directly nullify the powers at the cause ?

 

[Apotheosis69]

Only Immeasurable speed can "bypass" Passive hax of another character, ofc only if THAT character doesnt have Immeasurable speed themselves.

Cus well they accomplish stuff beyond conventional time and its processes.


Besides speed, there's ofc other stuff like Abstract Existence Type 1, Nonexistent Physiology, Beyond-Dimensionality, Hyper-Dimensionality, Paraconsistent Physiology, etc. to which Passive hax can't do anything to the character

 

[Optimus.negz]

Only Immeasurable speed can "bypass" Passive hax of another character, ofc only if THAT character doesnt have Immeasurable speed themselves.

Cus well they accomplish stuff beyond conventional time and its processes.


Besides speed, there's ofc other stuff like Abstract Existence Type 1, Nonexistent Physiology, Beyond-Dimensionality, Hyper-Dimensionality, Paraconsistent Physiology, etc. to which Passive hax can't do anything to the character

Thanks

 

[Apotheosis69]

I am not sure if Infinite speed can bypass the Passive Hax… or rather outspeed more acurrately.

 

[Optimus.negz]

I am not sure if Infinite speed can bypass the Passive Hax… or rather outspeed more acurrately.

The hax affects cause and effect, so infinite speed over an infinite distance in a finite time wouldn’t make any difference

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Infinite Speed can bypass passives.

Passives still have to 'take' effect, and that's not something that can happen in zero time.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Yeah thought so

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Some passives can be instantaneous. while some can be reliant on the character's speed or combat speed