Rainbow Deer vs Psychic Hedgehog

[GlaceonGamez471]

Speed equalized

5-B Versions used

Xerneas; Silver the Hedgehog

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

Ooh!

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

Does Silver get his wisps too?

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Yes

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

So many Sonic and Pokémon matches lol

Anyway I belive Xerneas leads with Geomancy correct?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ye

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Um...doesnt Xerneas kinda get hax stomped here?

Xerneas isnt exactly Mewtwo.

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

Uber flashbacks intensify

That would either make or break Xerneas.It leaves Xerneas open but if Xerneas gets it off Silver is kinda screwed

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Btw, I have to make a CRT for this first but Xerneas should gain memory manipulation via being able to restore Mews memories in SMD.

Idk if it'll help here though.

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

I'm pretty sure Silver haxes tbh

Chaos Control and Wisps are to much for our Uber Deer

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

I think I will remove wisps, they seem to be a bit much.

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

Time Stop and TK would prove to be too difficult tbh

 

[MYHERO]

I would love to have an uber deer.

 

[MYHERO]

You know I feel like Silver gets quite slept on by alot of people. I think I need to give this boi more attention.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Voting for Silver.

Grab and toss with TK + induce vertigo + can confuse Xerneas's senses would do the trick.

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

You know I feel like Silver gets quite slept on by alot of people. I think I need to give this boi more attention.

You think?

 

[MYHERO]

Okay tough guy. I'll make a match for him.

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

Also Silver should have this via better fighter and his TK is too damn strong. Plus he's got other abilities he can use like overwhelm Xerneas with his energy attacks, drain his via TK like what he did to Sonic at Radical Train, ESP (both the move and the status change), etc.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The thing about Xerneas is that after Geomancy, it will one-shot. Xerneas's AP advantage is more notable than you'd think, being done while being killed in its sleep. Literally, its 700+ ZT feat comes from it dying in a dormant state. Couple that with the insane boost of Geomancy and Fairy Aura and Silver wouldn't last a single hit. Obviously, TK is a problem, but Xerneas has encountered TK users before over a course of millions of years. Couple that with healing of both wounds and status effects (via Heal Pulse and Aromatherapy) and it's going to last longer than one would think against Silver. Gravity counters TK to a T, given in-game it literally nullifies the effects of the move Telekinesis. I don't think Silver has ever canonically stopped time before (correct me if I'm wrong) so I'd go Xerneas here. Raw power and experience is too much of a boon here.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Xerneas for Cal's reasons

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Actually, since Xerneas (as the non-combative tree of life) literally causes the planet to move around the sun for literally billions and billions of years on a constant daily basis, would Silvers TK even actually do anything to Xerneas?

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

Xerneas may have the AP here and stat boosts, but Silver can also stat boost itself too via ESP. As far as healing goes, Aromatherapy is the only one that Xerneas can use on himself. Heal Pulse works if the pokemon is healing a partner as it states. Gravity can work to counter Silver's TK, but given it's LS plus its AP, it'll only stall a little. And if we're talking about One-Shot here, Silver can easily use a bomb powerup where its function is literally to destroy an enemy in one hit. Also Silver can easily just drain Xerneas energy or mess with its mind via his psychic control if need be. And Silver can stop time or time travel via chaos control. He was going to stop time with his battle with shadow, but opened a time portal since both Shadow and Silver did CC at once. Just putting this out here.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Also Silver can easily just drain Xerneas energy or mess with its mind via his psychic control if need be. And Silver can stop time or time travel via chaos control. He was going to stop time with his battle with shadow, but opened a time portal since both Shadow and Silver did CC at once. Just putting this out here.

Just going to say draining Xerneas's energy will be completely useless. For one, Bacon Bird was unable to drain Xerneas's energy away with its life sucking abilities. And even then, Xerneas has energy reserves that are so absurd that they are what keeps the planet revolving around the sun...constantly....for billions and billions of years.....without doing a thing.

And time travel should also be useless since Silver doesnt know where Xerneas originated from to paradox it out of history.

 

[Spinoirr]

Deer fra

 

[Godhand1999]

Silver should be able to induce vertigo along with his power of mind mainpulation to confuse his opponents. Silver also has Chaos Control and some of his other items, so most of Xerneas's hax should get countered. Silver could use ring time to for transmutation, he has invulnerability via the invincibility icon, some of his Sonic Jump abilities include paralysis inducement and perception mainpulation. He also has magnetism (limited yes, but still works) and his "Aura" so regardless of whether or not Xerneas could amplify his stats, Silver actually has an AP advantage along with his "Aura" where he has access to his "true power" that should be able to further boost Silver.

Silver should take a win here.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Xerneas actually has resisted mind control before, as Emma hacked X's Pokeball containing it but had a heck of a time controlling it. Also Heal Pulse can be used on oneself in the anime. Finally, Psych Up pretty much nullifies any chance of Silcer catching up in stat boosts as it makes the deer copy Silver's own.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Silver's ESP can be used against Sonic and Shadow who both resist mindhax.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

So Silver>Sonic/Shadow>Devil Doom, Dark Gaia, and Ifrit?

Anyway, another thing for Xerneas is with Geomancy and Light Screen, Silver's main method of attack, long ranged attacks, will do next to nothing. Silver would have to get in close which is a death sentence.

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

Xerneas will lead with Geomacy.The thing is Gemomacy will leave Xerneas open for attack as Xerneas needs time to preform the move.Silver in that time very well could take advantage with TK or Chaos Control.While Yes if Xerneas can tank Silver's hits and pull of Geomacy Silver is kinda screwed.

 

[Inverted_Tempest]

Xerneas fra

 

[Theuser789]

Silver FRA

Also Op, wisps are standard equipment for everyone except Team Eggman

 

[Spinoirr]

sliver fra

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Spin

But...

Deer fra

 

[Theuser789]

He changed his mind Cal, it's simple

 

[Spinoirr]

yeah, you can change votes

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

So votes are:

Silver: 11 (ShadowWarrior1999, VioletVoid100, Godhand1999, Theuser789, Spinoirr, Neon Battle Bind, Maverick Zero X, Oblivion Lightning, HenryWong122, Hiryu-Z, Blueblur24)

Xerneas: 14 (The real cal howard, TheArsenal1212, Inverted Tempest, ProfessorKukui4Life, Starter Pack, SSBXeno573, Xerkser500, Niccokirby, MYHERO, Phoenix821, EmperorDoom25, RotofBots, Everything12, TriforcePower1)

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I agree Silver does get slept on, thanks to 06 being his debut game (still annoyed they dragged/retconned Blaze into that hot mess) he will always be linked to THAT meme and one of the most infamous videogames in history...

I also don't like how sega took three different yet colourful characters that balance each other out (Sonic, Knuckles and Tails) and "tried" to replace two of them with hedgehogs in terms of importance (combined with the modern era retcon that stated only male hedgehogs can go super) which only further divided the fandom (either tho Silver consistently gets left behind by Sonic/Shadow in both popularity and plot).

Sorry for the mini rant, as for the actual fight I'm currently neutral but I'm slightly leaning to life deer (since it can one-shot unlike the psychic type hedgehog).

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

@Axiom The super form being for male hedgehogs only thing gets contradicted by Mania.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Good.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

@Axiom The super form being for male hedgehogs only thing gets contradicted by Mania.

The game Sonic continuity/canon is just one big headache (it might have been weird and contrived at times but at least the Archie comics had way better storytelling than the games imo; it certainly treated certain characters better cough... Knuckles... cough).