Rick Sanchez vs Vegeta (1-C edition) | 0-1-0

[StrymULTRA]

Based on this gem here:

• Rick is in his Base and has 3 days of preparation and knowledge on Vegeta.
• Vegeta is in his Ultra God Mission key.
• Speed is unequalized until it's deemed to be necessary.

Technically a Saiyan because he's a pickle:

YOU WANNA BE VEGETA BUT YOU CAN'T BE VEGETA BECAUSE I AM VEGETA: 1 (@Shar122)

Incon:

 

[ShionAH]

Don't give him prior knowledge, he doesn't need it and it's just another useless addition to the description. In the video he likely scanned and researched them off screen

 

[StrymULTRA]

Don't give him prior knowledge, he doesn't need it and it's just another useless addition to the description. In the video he likely scanned and researched them off screen

Fine fine jeez

Edit: as R&M verse lacks multiple temporal dimensions, prior knowledge is something that should be added methinks.

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

I’ve never seen SDBH Vegeta being used before and I’m unaware of the foe but regardless of that, what’s Rick’s starting move? As for speed, does Rick scale to two temporal dimensions? If not Vegeta dwarfs him in speed. If they are relative I’d still assume Vegeta has the edge due to transformations, scaling chains and all.

 

[ShionAH]

He has preparation time and can learn everything about Vegeta all the way down to how he shts and why he shts that way lol.

Rick only scales to one temporal dimension, I didn't know you could scale above Immesurable speed like that tho

 

[StrymULTRA]

Rick only scales to one temporal dimension, I didn't know you could scale above Immesurable speed like that tho

It's how Bill also has a layer in Immeasurable speed too.

But in short, Immeasurable speed on 2 temporal dimensions is superior to "normal" Immeasurable speed in the same way the latter is superior to any non-Immeasurable character.

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

He has preparation time and can learn everything about Vegeta all the way down to how he shts and why he shts that way lol.

Rick only scales to one temporal dimension, I didn't know you could scale above Immesurable speed like that tho

If it’s one speed definitely needs to be equalised otherwise it’s quite the mismatch on Vegeta’s end seeing how he’d virtually see Rick as a statue. As for preparation time he’s given and his knowledge of Vegeta I guess that’s pretty neat and does give him the edge on anticipating incoming attacks. I think I’ll follow this thread for now and wait for other supporters. My guess is that the Keysword is a big component of this battle as well as summoning (bringing Agios into the battle).

 

[StrymULTRA]

If it’s one speed definitely needs to be equalised otherwise it’s quite the mismatch on Vegeta’s end seeing how he’d virtually see Rick as a statue. As for preparation time he’s given and his knowledge of Vegeta I guess that’s pretty neat and does give him the edge on anticipating incoming attacks.

Prep time is literally why the fight is even possible in the first place yeah.

 

[ShionAH]

My guess is that the Keysword is a big component of this battle as well as summoning (bringing Agios into the battle).

I must ask, can you give me a rundown at what Vegeta might do as a start?

I am thinking would Rick’s BFR be a wincon?

Edit: Think Vegeta might resist BFR but did he do it to a BFR on this level?

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

I must ask, can you give me a rundown at what Vegeta might do?

I am thinking would Rick’s BFR be a wincon?

That’s honestly beyond me but if I had to guess the usual? Doesn’t Vegeta usually lead in with Melee to get a grasp of how strong or skilled his opponent is? I’ve also been told and have seen how ordinary attacks such as Ki blasts and punches ignore defenses and target stamina. Akin to dimensional domain which sets inflicted opponent’s stamina to 1, once reaching 0 they’re incapitated, stunned and their power has been nullified (?) I don’t think this unconventional way of decreasing stamina actually sets their stamina to one with a single attack it likely needs to be accumulated.

If this method doesn’t work Vegeta would probably lead with some actual hax and higher end abilities.

 

[ShionAH]

incapitated, stunned

Then Rick should be fine

 

[Shar122]

I must ask, can you give me a rundown at what Vegeta might do as a start?

I am thinking would Rick’s BFR be a wincon?

Edit: Think Vegeta might resist BFR but did he do it to a BFR on this level?

He resist dark Ki which has BFR

 

[Shar122]

Vegeta starts with automatically transforming into SSB Beserk controlled which has passive layered corruption/mind/madness hax. Plus he has dura neg as well + Regen (Mid-High) negation as well.

 

[Killerdrone123]

What are rick's wincon here

 

[Shar122]

What are rick's wincon here

From what I've seen in his profile, Rick has plot hax via technology and meta energy stuff.. So maybe that?

• Conceptual Manipulation, Information Manipulation, Plot Manipulation (Type 1 Concept, Type 2 Information - Capable of seeing Meta Elements,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rick_Sanchez#cite_note-Meta-20"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a> is able to enter and exit<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rick_Sanchez#cite_note-Meta-20"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a> Meta Reality at will.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rick_Sanchez#cite_note-Meta-20"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a> Comparable to the Citadel who have the "Story Train" a train toy which contains anthology generator effectively making many different possible stories exist within it,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rick_Sanchez#cite_note-Story-40"><span>[</span>40<span>]</span></a> with it even being stated to be an actual reality with actual living things only difference being that they lack a soul.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rick_Sanchez#cite_note-Story-40"><span>[</span>40<span>]</span></a> It contains its own concept of time,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rick_Sanchez#cite_note-Story-40"><span>[</span>40<span>]</span></a> and as Rick stated it isn't an actual train but a literal story device<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rick_Sanchez#cite_note-Story-40"><span>[</span>40<span>]</span></a>)

 

[ShionAH]

He resist dark Ki which has BFR

Rick’s Teleportation works on himself who resists it

Vegeta starts with automatically transforming into SSB Beserk controlled which has passive layered corruption/mind/madness hax.

Oh that’s not good… would this work on robots? Rick could stay away from the battlefield and fight through those

Plus he has dura neg as well + Regen (Mid-High) negation as well.

Neither of these would bypass Operation Phoenix even if it worked out

From what I've seen in his profile, Rick has plot hax via technology and meta energy stuff.. So maybe that?

I am not sure, they have that because Rick’s can create their own stories very casually but Idk if that would work in versus threads. Maybe.

Rick also is Infinite 7D so he could just nuke Vegeta.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Knowledge on Vegeta as in full knowledge I assume? Wouldn't that mean Rick would use most effective tech?

 

[StarShooter80]

Rick’s Teleportation works on himself who resists it

Vegeta's resistance to BFR has 5 layers

 

[StrymULTRA]

Knowledge on Vegeta as in full knowledge I assume? Wouldn't that mean Rick would use most effective tech?

Yeah (still within his feats tho).

 

[ShionAH]

Knowledge on Vegeta as in full knowledge I assume? Wouldn't that mean Rick would use most effective tech?

Rick with a casual scan could find out how a guard poops, he is basically gonna find out everything yes

Vegeta's resistance to BFR has 5 layers

Yikes. Nevermind 🫩

 

[Killerdrone123]

I mean even if rick's BFR would have worked Vegeta could just summon Aeos to get him out of there by opening a portal

 

[ShionAH]

I mean even if rick's BFR would have worked Vegeta could just summon Aeos to get him out of there by opening a portal

Rick’s BFR higher ranged

Now I want to imagine how that would look, would he just not go into the Portal?

 

[StarShooter80]

Does Rick have any hax that can stomp an opponent like Vegeta? Or any that allows him to be basically unable to kill? Both of these profiles take forever to read through ngl

 

[ShionAH]

Does Rick have any hax that can stomp an opponent like Vegeta?

Idk, Vegeta has a LOT of resistances so I might need to check those to say for sure. Would Anti Matter work? He also has the pure AP to one shot.

Or any that allows him to be basically unable to kill?

Operation Phoenix with Preparation means you have to erase Rick from all of Space Time to kill him since he has basically Mid Godly

Both of these profiles take forever to read through ngl

I swear that Ki Page is SO hard to go through

 

[Killerdrone123]

Rick’s BFR higher ranged

Now I want to imagine how that would look, would he just not go into the Portal?

Time Gods like Chronoa can enter and exit the Crack of Time (C.o.T), which has a beyond-baseline Infinite 1-C range and contains an infinite number of 1-C structures. However, characters like the Supreme Kais, who possess Kai Kai with 1-C range, are unable to reach the C.o.T. Meanwhile, Time Gods such as Chrono and preferably Aeos are capable of accessing it.

 

[ShionAH]

I know. But what 1-C dimensions is it? Is it not 6? You do know the tier has several dimensions in it right

 

[Killerdrone123]

What 1-C dimension is this? Is it not 6?

Yeah 6d,does rick's BFR is 7d or something

Well You can make an argument for insignificant 7th dimension but let's not get into that

 

[ShionAH]

Ricks's BFR is 7d or something

Yep, the cosmology is Infinite 7D

He might get 8D after I stop being lazy and make the CRT

 

[Killerdrone123]

Yep, the cosmology is Infinite 7D

He might get 8D after I stop being lazy and make the CRT

Ah ok that's fair

 

[StarShooter80]

Idk, Vegeta has a LOT of resistances so O might need to check those to say for sure. Would Anti Matter work? He also has the pure AP to one shot.

I think? Neither the ki nor Vegeta's page lists any resistances towards it from what I could find, likely a win-con for Rick

Operation Phoenix with Preparation means you have to erase Rick from all of Space Time to kill him

Welp

I swear that Ki Page is SO hard to go through

Supporters are drowning in their greed I swear

 

[ShionAH]

Welp

Fair fair.

Supporters are drowning in their greed I swear

I had no idea Dragon Ball would ever have this much hax

 

[StarShooter80]

I had no idea Dragon Ball would ever have this much hax

The games are just insanely cracked in every departure.

Also are we limiting Rick's preparation to only go up to Vegeta's level and not infinite 7-D?

 

[ShionAH]

OP didn’t clarify, Rick just stomps by nuking Vegeta so that should be changed preferably?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Also are we limiting Rick's preparation to only go up to Vegeta's level and not infinite 7-D?

Both are at their full potential by SBA, meaning that if Rick deems necessary to use the 7D stuff to fight Vegeta, he can use it.

 

[ShionAH]

Doesn’t he just get nuked then

 

[StrymULTRA]

Doesn’t he just get nuked then

1. Does Rick even do that with Prep?
2. We still have Vegeta being infinitely faster, and SBA makes that both are 4 km away from each other.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Wait why isn't speed equalised Vegeta would just speed blitzed then unless rick durability is 7d or something

 

[ShionAH]

Does Rick even do that with Prep?

Wdym? Yes? He was gonna nuke a universe because they elected Jerry as the president lol. Especially when his opponent is this haxed

We still have Vegeta being infinitely faster, and SBA makes that both are 4 km away from each other.

From what I understand Vegeta would just blitz towards Rick and one shot him normally with an punch, which would trigger Operation Phoenix which would in return let Rick just nuke Vegeta.

Wait why isn't speed equalised Vegeta would just speed blitzed then unless rick durability is 7d or something

Would Vegeta start with hax or would he just punch Rick and one shot him? If he does just one shot Rick then Operation Phoenix will kick in

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

1. Does Rick even do that with Prep?
2. We still have Vegeta being infinitely faster, and SBA makes that both are 4 km away from each other.

Wait, did you just imply that 4 km distance makes up for infinite speed gap?

 

[StarShooter80]

None of Rick's 1-C ratings seem to apply to his durability either.

Also I was wrong before Vegeta doesn't have Dark Factor's level of EE just resistance to Dark Factor in general whoops