Rick Sanchez vs Vegeta (1-C edition) | 0-1-0

[ShionAH]

None of Rick's 1-C ratings seem to apply to his durability either.

If Vegeta doesn’t erase Rick instantly and just kill him normally then Operation Phoenix would save him

 

[StarShooter80]

If Vegeta doesn’t erase Rick instantly and just kill him normally then Operation Phoenix would save him

I just said he doesn't have EE

 

[Killerdrone123]

Would Vegeta start with hax or would he just punch Rick and one shot him? If he does just one shot Rick then Operation Phoenix will kick in

Well he has passive layered corruption/mind/madness hax via evil aura which has similar capabilities as dark ki if not superior so you can argue it can corrupt androids,abstract beings,space times,info 2

What is operation pheonix anyway can you tell me in short Vegeta next move after punch/ki blast would be summoning and this version can summon aeos that can preety much layered time stop and history/space time ee rick also given the speed difference the summoning would be preety instant

 

[Shar122]

Rick’s Teleportation works on himself who resists it

Oh that’s not good… would this work on robots? Rick could stay away from the battlefield and fight through those

Neither of these would bypass Operation Phoenix even if it worked out

I am not sure, they have that because Rick’s can create their own stories very casually but Idk if that would work in versus threads. Maybe.

Rick also is Infinite 7D so he could just nuke Vegeta.

Well, Vegeta would attack at immeasurable speed on a two temporal dimensions levels, which Rick can't react with, plus with SSB beserk controlled being comparable to like an MUI level amp.
Evil aura also upscale from the dark Ki which can corrupt synthetic androids and even histories/timelines, so it would work.

How so? Does Operation Phoenix give him resistance to durability neg or something?
Because Evil Ki blast can destroy someone in a cellular level, ignoring their defenses and making him unable to regenerate on a Mid High level + Vegeta have it's own dura neg on top of that.
Vegeta would nuke him as well

 

[ShionAH]

Well he has passive layered corruption/mind/madness hax via evil aura whuch has similar capabilities as dark ki if not superior so you can argue it can corrupt androids,abstract beings,space times,info 2

If he uses it, would he really transform against a senior citizen? I don’t know does he really always start with that?? I never played or watched the game but I feel like they start with Ki Blasts and Punches first, no?

What is operation pheonix anyway can you tell me in short

How so? Does Operation Phoenix give him resistance to durability neg or something?

• Immortality (Types 4 & 6), Resurrection (Operation Phoenix allows Rick's mind to inhabit a different vessel in case he dies. If Rick ever runs out of clones, the system starts to reroute his consciousness to other Operation Phoenix projects across the multiverse. Effectively, destroying his mind and Morty became the only way to truly put Rick down for good. If Rick dies, his holograms will guide Morty through the process of cloning his body and essence to revive him)

If Vegeta “kills” Rick, he will be rerouted to a clone in another universe. Its basically a back up.

 

[StarShooter80]

If Vegeta “kills” Rick, he will be rerouted to a clone in another universe. Its basically a back up.

Wouldn't that be out of bounds? Unless he has a direct method of going from the clone and then back to Vegeta to continue the fight.

 

[ShionAH]

Wouldn't that be out of bounds? Unless he has a direct method of going from the clone and then back to Vegeta to continue the fight.

No, he can just nuke Vegeta from there. Self BFR only makes you lose if you can’t return within a day but Rick realistically attacks or comes back in a few minutes tops.

 

[Killerdrone123]

If he uses it, would he really transform against a senior citizen? I don’t know does he really always start with that?? I never played or watched the game but I feel like they start with Ki Blasts and Punches first, no?

He isn't Goku he won't care about it tbh if rick managed to tick him of he would proceed to do it well aside from passive his first move would be ki attack and then summoning

• Immortality (Types 4 & 6), Resurrection (Operation Phoenix allows Rick's mind to inhabit a different vessel in case he dies. If Rick ever runs out of clones, the system starts to reroute his consciousness to other Operation Phoenix projects across the multiverse. Effectively, destroying his mind and Morty became the only way to truly put Rick down for good. If Rick dies, his holograms will guide Morty through the process of cloning his body and essence to revive him)

If Vegeta “kills” Rick, he will be rerouted to a clone in another universe. Its basically a back up.

I see,So how would rick proceed from here now would he just cosmology nuke/throw a projectile of some sort or just return to fight him if it's later then Vegeta would summon aeos and just time stop/erase him as that's the next move for game characters

 

[ShionAH]

So how would rick proceed from here

Yeah nah he isn’t giving it a second thought, he decided to nuke universes for FAR less especially not when he alr knows just how threatening Vegeta is and how he got blitzed

 

[Shar122]

ok, this is my verdict for Vegeta in this fight;

Vegeta's immeasurable speed operates on two temporal dimensions that Rick can't react to because of a beyond-infinite speed difference; he can just destroy Rick instantly even if Rick transferred his consciousness to another timeline. Vegeta still has the range to affect Rick. If that's not enough, he can also summon Aeos, who can just passively time-stop him. She also has thought-based EE via Time Power. She will just erase Rick with a mere thought, plus it has 7 layers (history, info type 2, concept type 1 EE), which Rick doesn't have the necessary means to resurrect from again.

On top of that, Vegeta also has layered (4 layers) passive Corruption, Madness hax, & Empathic Manipulation, which just corrupts Rick by flexing his aura in SSB beserk controlled form;

Special Ki Manipulation (Evil Aura [4 Layers]; As Super Saiyan Blue Controlled Berserk, Vegeta turned Cumber's Evil Aura into his own, thus should be able to use it to corrupt the body and mind of anyone he wants. This Evil Aura is superior to the one from Universe Mission)

Plus, Vegeta can just passively crush him with his ki;

Enhanced Aura (Overwhelming & Catastrophe-inducing [Passive]; Like with normal Ki Manipulation, Special Ki users can envelop themselves with an Aura made of Special Ki, which also contains the special effects of said Special Ki and passively affects users' opponents. Some users can even spread its presence over a large area to affect the surroundings, reaching up[2] to the entire multiverse.[3])

btw, Vegeta also has insane levels of RE + AD on top of that. He can also summon the Keysword, which has;

• Layered passive power null + all types of purification
• Dura neg
• Void hax
• Sealing.

and it also has these;

Stamina Reduction (Can reduce opponents' stamina via normal attacks or skills[1])

Status Effect Inducement (Paralysis; Disable opponents' abilities, powers, and actions when their stamina is reduced to zero, making them unable to act[1])

Not to mention that the sword also protects its users as well from various attacks and powers.
Even if the speed is equalized, Vegeta can just transform into his forms or use speed stat amp haxes, and SSB Berserk Controlled is basically on the level of MUI levels of power and speed, in which Vegeta will not hesitate (this version of Vegeta doesn't mess around, basically).

Idk if Rick would allow him keep up even with prep, if your enemy is beyond infinitely faster than you in every way imaginable.

 

[ShionAH]

How can Vegeta reach Rick after his death? His range is infinitely infinitely smaller.

Rick’s cybernetics automate his body which bypasses stamina reduction

If he uses his aura to crush Rick, he loses. If he punches Rick he loses, if he blasts Rick he loses. If he does anything that isn’t extremely powerful hax he loses, doesn’t Dragonball characters start off with normal attacks first? Especially when Vegeta can sense how weak Rick is physically

 

[Shar122]

How can Vegeta reach Rick after his death? His range is infinitely infinitely smaller.

Rick’s cybernetics automate his body which bypasses stamina reduction

If he uses his aura to crush Rick, he loses. If he punches Rick he loses, if he blasts Rick he loses. If he does anything that isn’t extremely powerful hax he loses, doesn’t Dragonball characters start off with normal attacks first? Especially when Vegeta can sense how weak Rick is physically

He doesn't lose if Rick can't even hit him in the first place, again He has immeasurable speed on two temporal dimensions, and in which even immeasurable speed on only one temporal dimension can't keep up since they're still bound by the notion of their temporal movement, basically the difference between any finite speed compared to infinite speed as an analogy.

SDBH chars are different from regular DB chars, they are much more serious, battle oriented in a sense that they don't mess around and find out.
Especially they have active passives, and they usually initiate powerful haxes at first such are their passives because it pertains to their innate powers lore wise.

Sounds vague, from what I've seen, even the technological cybernetic enhancement or whatever presented otherwise doesn't help much, you need to present that he actually resist stamina reduction which in DBH can even work against synthetic androids and those who have infinite stamina even.

Plus, Vegeta doesn't care tf he fight, he will automatically turn into SSB beserk controlled like he did against Cumber, Turles, etc.

 

[ShionAH]

You didn’t answer my main concern on your argument. You said Vegeta can reach Rick after he reboots, how?

Rick can just nuke the whole universe and Vegeta has no way to avoid that since he can’t escape that AoE.

Someone here told me that 0 stamina means fainting in DBH, meaning Rick’s cybernetics would definitely let him do everything needed if that was used. So Vegeta can’t incapacitate through that

It just depends on what Vegeta uses first, if there is no definitive and answer and since it makes a stomp depending on what move it is I think this might me a mismatch

 

[Shar122]

You didn’t answer my main concern on your argument. You said Vegeta can reach Rick after he reboots, how?

Rick can just nuke the whole universe and Vegeta has no way to avoid that since he can’t escape that AoE.

Someone here told me that 0 stamina means fainting in DBH, meaning Rick’s cybernetics would definitely let him do everything needed if that was used. So Vegeta can’t incapacitate through that

It just depends on what Vegeta uses first, if there is no definitive and answer and since it makes a stomp depending on what move it is I think this might me a mismatch

Is the another universe where he will resurrect in is 7D or 6D?

Vegeta will automatically transform into SSB Beserk controlled first like here his fight against Cumber which the Aura corrupts anyone with their mere presence alone, and he also automatically uses it against TPU Demigra as well alongside UI omen goku.
This is his Ultra god mission key so.. He will.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Yeah nah he isn’t giving it a second thought, he decided to nuke universes for FAR less especially not when he alr knows just how threatening Vegeta is and how he got blitzed

Has he ever nuked the Cosmo on 7d level cause if he geniunely did then I can see a wincon (Video for the nuke would be nice)

If your argument is that he would just nuke the universe where Vegeta is then Vegeta can preety much survive that without problem he doesn't even face the same issue as his canon counter part where he can't breathe in space also is the distance between these alternate version/universes 7d if it isn't i don't see why Vegeta wouldn't just go to rick with Aeos and ee him for good or just seal him with keysword

 

[ShionAH]

Yes Rick’s operation phoenix would put him outside his range.

Rick has Word of God statements for him nuking the multiverse, has a direct showcase of making a machine alone that can shake and affect all of it AND created the Central Finite Curve (>Infinite 7D structures). He can easily make a bomb on this level to just nuke Vegeta because of Preparation Time.

Again. This is a mismatch, either Vegeta stomps with one of his high tier hax like Mind Corruption or Rick just nukes him after Operation Phoenix.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Well yeah looks like a mismatch either way

 

[Shar122]

Yes Rick’s operation phoenix would put him outside his range.

Rick has Word of God statements for him nuking the multiverse, has a direct showcase of making a machine alone that can shake and affect all of it AND created the Central Finite Curve (>Infinite 7D structures). He can easily make a bomb on this level to just nuke Vegeta because of Preparation Time.

Again. This is a mismatch, either Vegeta stomps with one of his high tier hax like Mind Corruption or Rick just nukes him after Operation Phoenix.

Ehh, yeah probably, but I'm leaning towards Vegeta because he just automatically transform into his SSB controlled beserk state which will mind corrupt rick, and instantly summon Aeos as his second move which she just erases him with a thought, she could freeze, or seal him with the time labyrinth etc. but again its a mismatch.


I've watched some snippets of R&M stuff, so I do have some superficial knowledge about him.
He will just say a lot of cuss words first before initiating lol.