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Role Reversal - Saber Lancelot vs Saber Alter

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Lancelot
Lancelot Saber FGO
Summary

Saber is a Saber-class Servant able to be summoned by the Protagonist in the Grand Orders of Fate/Grand Order.

Saber's True Name is Sir Lancelot, also known as the Knight of the Lake, the person serving as a negative symbol of the Arthurian legend. He was extremely loyal to King Arthur as one of the Knights of the Round Table. This Lancelot is the closest being to his original state as the greatest Arthurian Knight. Caring for justice, honoring women, loathing evil - this virtuous figure overflowing with romance was acknowledged as the "ideal knight" by King Arthur. However, Lancelot feels that there is a cruel irony in being summoned as Saber, and so feels that the most appropriate class for himself is Berserker.

Powers and Stats
Tier: 7-A, 7-A with Arondight, 6-C with Arondight Overload

Name: Saber, Lancelot, Knight of the Lake

Origin: Fate/Grand Order

Gender: Male

Age: Likely in his 30s

Classification: Saber-class Servant, Heroic Spirit, Knight of the Round Table

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Soul Manipulation (All Servants can consume souls to replenish their magical energy), Energy Projection, Stat Amping, and Probability Manipulation (The ability to double the likelihood of successful "saving throws" with the Holy Sword), Illusion Creation with For Someone's Glory (Can disguise himself as any Heroic Spirit who achieved victory in military exploits and hide his parameters and identity), Weapon Mastery (Is so skilled with the use of any weapon that he is able to fully utilize his abilities while driven insane or while suffering from the effects of Mind Manipulation due to his Eternal Arms Mastership skill. Also has full mastery over any weapon he lays his hands on via Knight of Owner), Damage Boost with Arondight (Has bonuses when fighting Dragons or those with Dragon-like attributes), Vehicular Mastery (Can operate virtually any modern vehicle with ease), Supernatural Luck, Minor Fate Manipulation (Servants with B-rank Luck or higher can change their own fates to evade inevitable outcomes such as having their hearts destroyed by Gáe Bolg), Regenerationn (Mid-Low; all Servants have low-level regenerative abilities that allow them to easily heal cuts and wounds for as long as they have a proper mana supply), Immunity to Modern Weapons (Servants are Divine Mysteries that cannot be harmed by modern weapons such as guns, knives, or bombs unless they are infused with a supernatural aspect such as magical energy or possess a certain amount of age), Resistance to Magic (Including effects such as Petrification, Spatial Manipulation, and Mind Manipulation), Soul Manipulation and Biological Manipulation (Servants can resist Chaos Tides), Transmutation and Data Manipulation (Servants can stay in digitized area) and Poison Manipulation (Servants are unaffected by poisons from the likes of Jack's and Serenity's)

Attack Potency: Mountain level (Was arguably the greatest Knight of the Round and existence on par with if not superior to Artoria herself), Mountain level+ with Arondight (Effectively has A-Rank Strength, putting him on par with Heracles. Stalemated Gawai in life while the latter had his Numeral of the Saint active), Island level with Arondight Overload (Vastly superior to his normal strikes, is an A++ Rank Anti-Army Noble Phantasm, rendering it superior to even the likes of Excalibur Galatine)

Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Has B-Rank Agility, making him comparable to Arturia under Kiritsugu), higher with Arondight drawn (Gets a full Rank Up in Agility)

Lifting Strength: At least Class 25 (Is physically stronger than Arturia, who flipped a trailer truck)

Striking Strength: Mountain Class, Mountain level+ with Arondight, Island level with Arondight Overload

Durability: Mountain level+ (Has A-Rank Endurance, making him comparable to Heracles), Immune to Conventional Weapons

Stamina: Virtually tireless for as long as he has sufficient mana

Range: Extended melee range with most weapons, Several kilometers with the release of Arondight Overload (Releases a burst of mana that is comparable to the surface area of an entire lake)

Standard Equipment: Anything he can recognize as a weapon, His armor, His sword, Arondight

Intelligence: Lancelot is considered the greatest of King Arthur's knights, exceeding even his king in terms of sheer combat ability and managing to duel Gawain to a standstill even while Numeral of the Saint was active. His swordsmanship is nearly unrivaled, but he can use virtually anything in his vicinity as a weapon, managing to defeat a heavily armed opponent with only an elm branch. While he is chivalrous to the core, he is not above disguising himself to gain an advantage, as evidenced by his Noble Phantasm, For Someone's Glory.

Weaknesses: Lancelot is chivalrous to the core and prefers to avoid using underhanded tactics unless he must, he suffers from incredible guilt over his actions, For Someone's Glory and Knight of Owner are sealed once he draws Arondight

Notable Attacks/Techniques:

Noble Phantasms

  • Arondight: The Unfading Light of the Lake: Lancelot's main Noble Phantasm, it is a powerful Divine Construct similar to Excalibur. It is said to be able to receive any attack without taking damage and raises all of Lancelot's parameters by one rank in addition to doubling the chance of saving throws in combat. In addition, due to the legend in which Lancelot slew a dragon, it possesses Dragon Slaying properties that make it even more effective against any target with draconic attributes. This is the original, shining form of Arondight when it was still a Holy Sword, long before it was stained by Lancelot's madness.
    • Arondight - Overload: Breaking All Restraints - Overloaded Light of the Lake: Lancelot's Noble Phantasm attack. Lancelot overloads Arondight with his mana, letting the charged magical energy leak out. It is then repurposed into an attack. This Noble Phantasm is something close to a sword skill, which deliberately refrains from emitting the prana as a slash of light, instead releasing it upon cutting at the target. The blue light of the vast magical energy that overflows from the severed section has been alluded as being like a lake.
  • For Someone's Glory: Not For One's Own Glory: One of Lancelot's auxiliary Noble Phantasms, it naturally manifests as a fog that makes it nearly impossible to discern his identity, obscuring his true name, sex, personal status, Noble Phantasms, and other important information. In addition, Lancelot is able to disguise himself as any other Heroic Spirit who has succeeded in military exploits, such as Alexander the Great, deceiving his foes' senses of sight and hearing to make his attacks seem completely different than they are. However, this ability is sealed once Arondight is drawn.
Class Skills

  • Magic Resistance: A skill that grants protection against magical effects. Differently from the Resistance effect that merely rejects Magical Energy, this ability cancels the spells altogether. Lancelot's Rank B magic resistance cancels spells with a chant below three verses. Even if targeted by High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals, it is difficult for him to be affected.
  • Riding: The class skill of Riders and Sabers, the ability to ride mounts. With his skill at Rank B, Lancelot can handle most vehicles with above average skill. However, he cannot ride the likes of Phantasm Races such as Monstrous Beasts.
Personal Skills

  • Knight of Owner: A Knight Does Not Die with Empty Hands: An ability that is the embodiment of the incident where Lancelot was forced to fight Sir Phelot unarmed and proved his fighting prowess by claiming victory with an elm branch. Rather than an overt weapon, it manifests as a "unique ability" retained by his body. Once Lancelot grabs hold of anything that can be even remotely conceptualized as a weapon by his own recognition and he recognizes that he wishes to wield it, it instantly gains the property of "becoming his Noble Phantasm." He will even gain control of weapons intrinsic and unique to others like Noble Phantasms should he grab hold of them. Improvised weapons like steel poles will become demonic weapons comparable to Rank D Noble Phantasms that can clash with Noble Phantasms as mighty as Excalibur and can harm the spiritual bodies of Servants, while already great weapons will retain all of their properties while under Lancelot's control. For as long as the weapon remains in Lancelot's hands, he will wield as if he had done so for years as his "preferred weapon". However, he cannot make use of things he can't recognize as a weapon, such as an aircraft carrier or a chair, and this ability will be sealed once he draws Arondight.
  • Eternal Arms Mastership: A skill that prevents degradation of fighting skills when under the effect of mental hindrance. Lancelot's fighting skill was so great that he was considered virtually unrivaled in his era, with his technique being engraved into every fiber of his being, allowing him to fight at full capacity even if he is driven completely insane or suffering from the effects of Mind Manipulation.
  • Knight of the Lake: Having been raised from infancy by the Lady of the Lake, Lancelot is constantly receiving her blessings. This allows him to temporarily add a "+" to his Strength, Agility, Endurance, Mana, or Noble Phantasm ratings, effectively doubling their effectiveness for a time.
  • Protection of the Fairies: A blessing from Elementals that raises Lancelot's Luck in dangerous situations on the battlefield.
Alter
SaberAlterFGO
Summary

Saber Alter is the Saber-class Servant of Sakura Matou during the Fifth Holy Grail War, in the Heaven's Feel route. She is an "altered" Saber, tainted by the mud of All the World's Evil.

Powers and Stats
Tier: 7-A, 6-C with Excalibur Morgan

Name: Saber Alter, Black Saber, Artoria Pendragon

Origin: Fate/stay night

Age: 24

Gender: Female

Classification: Saber-class Servant, Corrupted Heroic Spirit

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Enhanced Senses, Master Swordswoma, Precognition, some Magecraft, Energy Projection, Statistics Amplification (Can reinforce her body with magical energy to increase her strength and durability), can walk on water, Telepathy, Possession (Non combat applicable), Teleportation (Can travel through shadows to travel between two points nearly instantaneously), Soul Manipulation (All Servants can consume souls to replenish their mana), Immunity to Modern Weapons (Servants are Divine Mysteries that cannot be harmed by modern weapons such as guns, knives, or bombs unless they are infused with a supernatural aspect such as magical energy or possess a certain amount of age), Resistance to Magic (Including effects such as Petrification, Spatial Manipulation, and Mind Manipulation), Soul Manipulation and Biological Manipulation (Servants can resist Chaos Tides), Transmutation and Data Manipulation (Servants can stay in digitized area) and Poison Manipulation (Servants are unaffected by poisons from the likes of Jack's and Serenity's), Regenerationn (Low-Mid overtime; can regenerate from lethal wounds to her chest and lungs)

Attack Potency: Mountain level+ (Has A-rank strength, is far superior to her original self as a Servant and bypassed God Hand with normal blows. Has been referred to as the physically strongest Servant of the Fifth Holy Grail War, and even stated to be equal in strength to Berserker), Island level with Excalibur Morgan (Should be equal to the normal Excalibur and thus superior to Calibur. Also vaporized the fragments of Bennu, which has an estimated impact force of 1.2 Gigatons of TNT).

Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Slower than before, but can still easily overwhelm Berserker. Is easily able to react and block Rider's attacks, even those directed at her blind spots, despite the latter moving and attacking her from all directions)

Lifting Strength: Class 25 (Superior in strength to her normal self)

Striking Strength: Mountain Class+

Durability:
Mountain level+ (Has A+ rank durability, making her superior to Heracles.)

Stamina: Virtually infinite, on account of her Master's power source.

Range: Extended melee range with sword, several meters via Mana Bursts, several kilometers with Excalibur

Standard Equipment: Her armor, materialized through her own power, and Excalibur Morgan.

Intelligence: Saber is an extremely accomplished swordswoman suitable for her class, clashing with even the strongest heroes in swordplay with few laying claim to greater skill than her. Becoming the king of a prosperous nation at the age of fourteen, she is a skilled politician and an able leader who is able to effectively lead armies into battle and governing most of Britain by the end of her rule. She is also knowledgeable of magecraft, having been Merlin's apprentice in her youth, and is familiar with most European Heroic Spirits. As Saber Alter, her swordsmanship and technique suffer somewhat, as she loses fine control in exchange for far greater destructive power. She is mostly emotionless and apathetic, following her orders without question, but can be enraged if her opponent isn't going all out against her.

Weaknesses: Unlike other Servants, Saber Alter isn't a proper Heroic Spirit, possessing a physical body that cannot go into spirit form. She also has to constantly struggle against her temper, and her Regenerationn takes time, up to ten minutes depending on the scale of the wounds.

Notable Attacks/Techniques:

Noble Phantasm
Excalibur Morgan: Sword of Promised Victory: The blackened form that Excalibur takes on after Saber is corrupted by the effects of All the World's Evil, remaining the strongest holy sword despite its corruption. When activated as a Noble Phantasm, the entire blade is covered in black flames which are then released in a stream of energy to destroy everything in its path. In addition, it can also be utilized in the form of a melee attack known as Vortigern: Hammer of the Vile King, cutting the target to pieces with three upward swings while the blade is coated in dark mana. Now that Saber Alter has access to more mana than ever thanks to Sakura's connection to the Grail, it can be said that this attack surpasses even the original Excalibur.

Class Skills
Magic Resistance: The ability to completely nullify and shrug off oncoming magical attacks. Unlike the Resistance effect that merely rejects Magical Energy, this ability cancels the spells altogether. Saber Alter's B-Rank in this ability is enough to cancel spells with a chant below three verses. Even if she targeted by High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals, it is difficult for her to be affected.

Riding: The ability to ride mounts with proficiency. Saber Alter lost her ability to utilize this skill due to her corruption.

Personal Skills
Charisma: The ability to lead armies into battle. Saber's rank in this skill has fallen to E after her corruption. As a result, she can lead effectively, but the morale of her troops will sharply drop under her command.

Instinct: The power to "feel" the most favorable developments for oneself during battle. Artoria's senses are dulled due to the constant suppression of rage caused by Angra Mainyu's corruption, causing her Instinct to receive a rank down to B. It remains, however, and due to Saber Alter's more pragmatic fighting style, she is more likely to take action.

Mana Burst: A skill that allows for an increase in performance by infusing one's weapons and body with magical energy, for both defensive and offensive purposes, effectively recreating the effects of a jet burst. As Saber Alter, she engulfs her attacks with the dark mana surging through her body, causing black arcs to follow the path of her sword as she strikes with greater force than she ever could originally. She can also release bursts of her mana as projectiles in an attack called Burst Air. She can also manipulate and shape the mana she releases into the shape of a dragon's head to grab, bite, and throw her target in an attack called Tyrant Clap or convert them into dark tendrils to strike opponents.
In character, no prior knowledge or prep time. Who wins?

Lancelot - 0

Alter - 3 (Schnee One, Anonymous, Iapitus The Impaler)

Inconclusive - 0
 
Arturia is slower and less skilled than Lancelot, but she can also vaporize him by spamming Excalibur Morgan, which is in character for her.
 
Arturia being slower as well as less skilled is going to make her more inclined to use Excalibur, that, and Lancelot can't Spam Overlord unlike Alter.

So Alter via spamming Morgan I guess
 
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