Sakura vs Goku

[TegamiBachi25]

FR FR these sakura vs goku matchups I've been seeing elsewhere are random and constant

Part 1 Sakura vs Super Peasant. Speed is equalized and fight takes place in an indestructible empty city. Super Peasant is bloodlusted.

Sakura is universal: 1

Goku is fodder: 7

Incon:

 

[TegamiBachi25]

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[Mickey1940]

voting Super Peasant

Sakura should scale vaguely to or above Sasuke's Fireball Jutsu feat, which is 18.58 tons

Super Peasant can one shot Thor who's 13.8 tons

Sakura has jacksh*t and f*ckall in her arsenal besides basic Ninja abilities, none of which actually help her here

meanwhile Super Peasant can fly and his punches are homing attacks so she can't dodge, and 1 hit is enough to shatter her ribs at least

Sakura's smarter but that doesn't really help her here since the power difference is too wide, Super Peasant can freely bumrush her without fear of anything

 

[karo_senpaii]

Super peasant>> 13 tons.
Sakura 18tons.

Super peasant breaks her ribs with one attack. Ah yes the logic makes sense

 

[karo_senpaii]

Anyway sakura got substitution justu and shunshin so her being tagged is gonna be pretty hard. Her opponent is also above average while she is gifted intelligence plus basic shinobi training just makes her outskill and outsmart her opponent. She'd get the win in the long run since she uses piercing damage via kunai while already having an ap gap

 

[Mickey1940]

Super peasant>> 13 tons.
Sakura 18tons.

Super peasant breaks her ribs with one attack. Ah yes the logic makes sense

1 shotting a character who's 13 tons means that same attack will deal extreme damage who someone who's not that much stronger (less than 50% difference)

Anyway sakura got substitution justu and shunshin so her being tagged is gonna be pretty hard. Her opponent is also above average while she is gifted intelligence plus basic shinobi training just makes her outskill and outsmart her opponent. She'd get the win in the long run since she uses piercing damage via kunai while already having an ap gap

Homing attacks that ignore all rational thought just bypasses this entirely. She goes for substitution, Super Peasant's entire body will just fly towards her against his own will and land an exploding punch that will cripple her for the rest of the fight. He literally can't miss even if he's trying

And no, the AP gap is reversed, Sakura either scales to or a bit above 18 tons, while super Peasant straight up splatters and can tear through armies of characters who are 13 tons. Super Peasant is clearly stronger here

Part 1 Sakura is notoriously shit in fights. In her literal only 1v1 in all of Part 1, she goes for hand t hand combat first opportunity before resorting to shuriken and the Clone technique. Doing any of this (besides shuriken) just gets her unceremoniously punched in the face. Yes, Super Peasant's flight trajectory is easily predictable and therefore using shuriken is effective, but he's just gonna charge straight through them cuz he doesn't respond to pain cuz no TABS character even does in the game so he just flies right through and punches her in the face

Skill is irrelevant since he just charges her with full body tackles and punches that she literally can't get away from unless she's constantly moving and will hit her no matter what, she can't dodge cuz homing attacks + true flight is funny, and even if she blocks she's getting her arms broken


She has no special abilities or jutsu, her fighting prowess is noticeably not good due to lack of experience, she has to spam Shunshin and substitution to avoid fatal blows which she can't do cuz her stamina in Part 1 is just average, and therefore she's just screwed

 

[karo_senpaii]

I'm not about to get into a debate with someone who thinks a character is one shotting another character because he one shots people 50% weaker than her when the standard here the one shot gap is 7× stronger.

Yeah voting sakura. Suit yourself

 

[Mickey1940]

I'm not about to get into a debate with someone who thinks a character is one shotting another character because he one shots people 50% weaker than her when the standard here the one shot gap is 7× stronger.

Yeah voting sakura. Suit yourself

I'm not saying Super Peasant 1 shots

I'm saying Super Peasant can deal a LOOOOT of damage to her with a single attack, probably enough to break bones, and this thing's main strategy is bumrushing and spamming punches. Sakura can't survive that

 

[karo_senpaii]

I'm not saying Super Peasant 1 shots

I'm saying Super Peasant can deal a LOOOOT of damage to her with a single attack, probably enough to break bones, and this thing's main strategy is bumrushing and spamming punches. Sakura can't survive that

No you don't break the bones of someone stronger than you.

Even if super peasant tears people who are 13 tons to pieces he is still not 18tons. He can never be stronger than sakura if not there would be 18tons on his profile.. it's not rocket science, sakura still has the ap advantage.
He's also not touching sakura. Sakura is faster and much more skilled. He tries to punch sakura and she straight up catches his punch and punches him back with more force than his durability. Guess what, add that with her kunai attacks and he is down quickly

Sakura wins 9/10 times.

 

[LaserPrecision]

No you don't break the bones of someone stronger than you.

Even if super peasant tears people who are 13 tons to pieces he is still not 18tons. He can never be stronger than sakura if not there would be 18tons on his profile.. it's not rocket science, sakura still has the ap advantage.
He's also not touching sakura. Sakura is faster and much more skilled. He tries to punch sakura and she straight up catches his punch and punches him back with more force than his durability. Guess what, add that with her kunai attacks and he is down quickly

Sakura wins 9/10 times.

Not interested in this match-up at all, but I just wanted to help out a bit here and inform you (Dunno how often you participate in versus threads) that you actually can upscale enough to have the advantage over an opponent if the value isn't that far off. I dunno the extent of Super Peasent's scaling, but usually stuff like chains of one-shot gaps is enough to have the ap advantage over someone who has a value less than 2x above your own value (In the same way enough upscaling can both give you an "At least" rating, or even upscale into the next tier). Again, not saying Super Peasant has the AP advantage, but if the upscaling is substantial enough, they would have the AP advantage. That is very common practice on versus threads.

 

[Mickey1940]

Not interested in this match-up at all, but I just wanted to help out a bit here and inform you (Dunno how often you participate in versus threads) that you actually can upscale enough to have the advantage over an opponent if the value isn't that far off. I dunno the extent of Super Peasent's scaling, but usually stuff like chains of one-shot gaps is enough to have the ap advantage over someone who has a value less than 2x above your own value (In the same way enough upscaling can both give you an "At least" rating, or even upscale into the next tier). Again, not saying Super Peasant has the AP advantage, but if the upscaling is substantial enough, they would have the AP advantage. That is very common practice on versus threads.

the AP gap is:

1 shotting 13 tons with 1 punch

vs

scales to 18 tons

so yeah what you said is correct

 

[Mickey1940]

I also want to mention that Super Peasant does indeed have a chain

Super Peasant can fly through the attacks of and one shot ice giants, who can 2 shot Thor, who's 13 tons

so he can 1 shot someone who already stomps Thor. In fact, he can 1 shot hundreds of said someones

 

[karo_senpaii]

Not interested in this match-up at all, but I just wanted to help out a bit here and inform you (Dunno how often you participate in versus threads) that you actually can upscale enough to have the advantage over an opponent if the value isn't that far off. I dunno the extent of Super Peasent's scaling, but usually stuff like chains of one-shot gaps is enough to have the ap advantage over someone who has a value less than 2x above your own value (In the same way enough upscaling can both give you an "At least" rating, or even upscale into the next tier). Again, not saying Super Peasant has the AP advantage, but if the upscaling is substantial enough, they would have the AP advantage. That is very common practice on versus threads.

That's actually wrong. It helps you equal the opponent value if it is less than 2x but it never helps you have an advantage. That's not a thing in the rules. And even if for some reason you're right both of you would still be comparable to each other and not that one would break the bones of the other. Our one shot value 7x actually takes breaking your skull I think into account

 

[Mickey1940]

That's actually wrong. It helps you equal the opponent value if it is less than 2x but it never helps you have an advantage. That's not a thing in the rules. And even if for some reason you're right both of you would still be comparable to each other and not that one would break the bones of the other. Our one shot value 7x actually takes breaking your skull I think into account

Super Peasant has 2 stomp-worthy steps in his scaling chain, one of which is 1 shot worthy and the other is 2 shot worthy, and the base starting value of that scaling chain is already 13 tons

You're treating Super Peasant like he's vaguely above 13 tons when in reality he's so vastly above it that it's very likely he can severely injure 18 ton characters if not one shot them just as easily. Compound the fact that he literally can't miss, and Sakura just has no options, especially considering her fighting style

 

[Kachon123]

Super Peasant FRA. Sakura doesn't have too many options here.

 

[Mickey1940]

No you don't break the bones of someone stronger than you.

Even if super peasant tears people who are 13 tons to pieces he is still not 18tons. He can never be stronger than sakura if not there would be 18tons on his profile.. it's not rocket science, sakura still has the ap advantage.
He's also not touching sakura. Sakura is faster and much more skilled. He tries to punch sakura and she straight up catches his punch and punches him back with more force than his durability. Guess what, add that with her kunai attacks and he is down quickly

Sakura wins 9/10 times.

I also do want to mention that by your logic:

A character who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who can one shot someone who's 17 tons can never reach 18 tons cuz it's not 18 tons on their profile

you're basically saying scaling chains don't matter cuz the number on their profile is law

I'm obviously exaggerating for the sake of my point but my point still stands

I don't need to explain why that's not reasonable

 

[SlendVeny]

Part 1 Sakura is notoriously shit in fights. In her literal only 1v1 in all of Part 1, she goes for hand t hand combat first opportunity before resorting to shuriken and the Clone technique.

And in her 1v3, she threw Shuriken and Kunai at the same time, then more shuriken, then cut off her own hair to escape an attack(symbolic stuff, really), then substituted, then threw more kunai, then substituted again, then tricked a guy into thinking she was going to substitute, taking multiple stab wounds for a chance to stab a guy, then clamped her jaw down on his arm like a mastiff until backup showed up.

Then she helped fight Team Oboro, who were intentionally tiring the group out. She used a Kunai here, too. As you can see, by the time she fought Ino, she had far fewer weapons in her non-infinite storage space, especially if you include she used one saving Naruto from falling before and a couple for traps.

Now, what did she do against Ino?

She cloned herself, ran at her, Body Flickered, and then punched her with enhanced speed. Sakura, who's noted in the databooks for having had excellent chakra control basically her whole life, is absolutely going to use it. Kakashi immediately notes her chakra control surpasses Sasuke's, as well as all the other rookies'. The two then clashed physically, threw shuriken at each other, then beat each other up for a full ten minutes. Then Ino pulled her main trick, Sakura used her personality disorder to break out, and they punched each other again.

The problem here is that, while she is not at peak condition in any of these fights, the last one is her at her most injured and exhausted, with the least gear, against an opponent she doesn't want to cut apart.


While Super Peasant does win, it's certainly not a stomp. A thing to note is that Super Peasant is hard-carried by speed. Against someone Sakura's height, 75-90% of the time, it's going to miss the initial punch, and slamming its face into someone does no damage. It's gonna have to make the initial hit, then either keep pushing until it hits or do a kind of sweeping motion that leaves it vulnerable for a moment. And it doesn't have tactics either, it's just going headfirst into every attack.

I do think it has high enough stats to carry tho

 

[Mickey1940]

And in her 1v3, she threw Shuriken and Kunai at the same time, then more shuriken, then cut off her own hair to escape an attack(symbolic stuff, really), then substituted, then threw more kunai, then substituted again, then tricked a guy into thinking she was going to substitute, taking multiple stab wounds for a chance to stab a guy, then clamped her jaw down on his arm like a mastiff until backup showed up.

Then she helped fight Team Oboro, who were intentionally tiring the group out. She used a Kunai here, too. As you can see, by the time she fought Ino, she had far fewer weapons in her non-infinite storage space, especially if you include she used one saving Naruto from falling before and a couple for traps.

Now, what did she do against Ino?

She cloned herself, ran at her, Body Flickered, and then punched her with enhanced speed. Sakura, who's noted in the databooks for having had excellent chakra control basically her whole life, is absolutely going to use it. Kakashi immediately notes her chakra control surpasses Sasuke's, as well as all the other rookies'. The two then clashed physically, threw shuriken at each other, then beat each other up for a full ten minutes. Then Ino pulled her main trick, Sakura used her personality disorder to break out, and they punched each other again.

Again, the problem with this is that homing attacks which target her main body through clone illusions and substitution jutsu, as well asTABS characters ignoring pain from her projectiles due to game mechanics, ignore literally all of this.

like yeah I admit she's not an unga bunga brawler until after the timeskip, but even if we assume she plays entirely tactically and camps him out the entire fight (which she just doesn't do, she does still go for h2h frequently), it just doesn't work cuz Super Peasant's kit directly counters this cuz his kit is really dumb stupid

While Super Peasant does win, it's certainly not a stomp. A thing to note is that Super Peasant is hard-carried by speed. Against someone Sakura's height, 75-90% of the time, it's going to miss the initial punch, and slamming its face into someone does no damage. It's gonna have to make the initial hit, then either keep pushing until it hits or do a kind of sweeping motion that leaves it vulnerable for a moment. And it doesn't have tactics either, it's just going headfirst into every attack.

I do think it has high enough stats to carry tho

Super Peasant has vastly superior mobility due to true flight and the fact that his entire body gets carried towards his opponents with his homing attacks, so he'd only have the advantage if Sakura absolutely spams the crap out of Substitution Jutsu, which she can't do and even if she could she doesn't have the stamina to maintain this for long before Super Peasant eventually just hits her once, in which case now she has to continue spamming her own mobility options while in immense pain due to the AP difference

Ironically, due to Super Peasant's homing attack, going in headfirst unga bunga helps a lot since he literally doesn't even need to aim. Yes, he's tanking projectiles left and right but he doesn't care and just keeps going. Kunai and other projectiles in Naruto are primarily used to deal smaller amounts of damage from a distance and keep people away and are rarely ever used for a kill unless you're using the clone jutsu to spam thousands while also infusing your own chakra into them like Sasuke does, which means Super Peasant, who literally can't back away even if he tries, will just facetank them and keep going

 

[Mickey1940]

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[Mickey1940]

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[MannyQ361]

Super Peasant fra

 

[Fezzih_007]

Super peasant fra

 

[TegamiBachi25]

all counted

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Votting super Peasant here.

Even if you wanted to argue that sakura could use substitution she doesn't have nearly enough chakra to keep this up for as long as she would need too.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Gotta love autocorrect

 

[TegamiBachi25]

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[Arkansalter2]

Going with Super Peasant here. Super Peasant has been consistently shown to oneshot those around his value. Due to that, Super Peasant upscales a lot from his value and to be completely fair, Sakura doesn't have a lot of winconditions here.
Super Peasant mid diff.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

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[Mickey1940]

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[Mickey1940]

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[TegamiBachi25]

I'm going to finish this.

Voting Goku/Super Peasant and that's grace