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So I know I just upgraded SCP-5514 in my last thread. But it's time to downgrade it. And a lot lower than previously.
Currently it is 1-A for fighting beings capable of fighting the Serpent. Now these beings lacking profiles aside, it is a good reasoning on its own. Even in SCP-5514's file, we can clearly see the mecha fighting alongside the Serpent, beating up beings clearly able to harm it and almost kill it, etc. But actually scaling 5514 to 1-A, I've discovered, makes absolutely no sense, for the following reasons in order from least to most important:
1. Clearly the scope of 5514 and these beings' power is never shown to be 1-A or even remotely near to being cosmic. Indeed, they're essentially just Kaijus. A bit of power from a miniature sun was able to nearly one-shot the Crocosquid, one of the strongest of such kaijus. Of course these anti-feats aren't enough on their own if the feats are good. But...
2. The Serpent featured in this series of tale has very little to do with Djoricverse, the section of lore which gives the Serpent its 1-A. This Serpent is not only pretty much just a big snake, without the weird abstract powers of the main universe, but its backstory is also very different. Instead of being a primordial part of the universe that existed ever since Biblical days, it was merely one of many kaijus back in the days. The world used to be full of giant monsters, until the Serpent came out on top, and then went out to create the Library. It's inherently not the same being as the most grandiose versions of the Serpent.
3. SCP-5514 being 1-A breaks scaling in various ways. In its tale, it fights and is threatened by Invisible Spiders, the various kaijus it fought were eaten by SCP-2256, and was vastly overpowered by the Crocrosquid in a 1v1 fight. But the problem is that both the Invisible Spiders are the Crocrosquids are mere physical emanations from SCP-3125. The Starfish spawns thousands of these things as a mere side-effect of it barely intersecting with the physical world. And while SCP-2256 has no explicit link to SCP-3125, it is featured in its tales and are clearly not superior to it. By scaling SCP-5514 to the 1-A Serpent, who should be comparable to SCP-3125, we are making the claim that these infinitesimal manifestations of SCP-3125 are superior to it. Which is nonsensical.
So yeah. 1-A bad, here. The Serpent in these tales is clearly separate from the main one with the big feats. So:
-Remove SCP-5514's EU key. All its EU key does is scale it to the Serpent. And that's no longer the case, so.
-Give the Serpent a War on All Fronts key. This version should be 6-A and have Flight, Large Size, Portal Creation, and the conceptual defenses of Kaijus in that canon.
-Downgrade SCP-6004's EU key to 6-A physically, and give it High 6-A through ED. This thing scales to the robot, so. Also give it the concept stuff in its EU key.
-Add a War on All Fronts key for the Invisible Spiders, with 6-A AP and the conceptual stuff for the other kaijus.
It should also be noted for all involved characters that they can pîerce each other's conceptual defenses. They both have fancy conceptual defenses and the means to pierce through other people's defenses.
Currently it is 1-A for fighting beings capable of fighting the Serpent. Now these beings lacking profiles aside, it is a good reasoning on its own. Even in SCP-5514's file, we can clearly see the mecha fighting alongside the Serpent, beating up beings clearly able to harm it and almost kill it, etc. But actually scaling 5514 to 1-A, I've discovered, makes absolutely no sense, for the following reasons in order from least to most important:
1. Clearly the scope of 5514 and these beings' power is never shown to be 1-A or even remotely near to being cosmic. Indeed, they're essentially just Kaijus. A bit of power from a miniature sun was able to nearly one-shot the Crocosquid, one of the strongest of such kaijus. Of course these anti-feats aren't enough on their own if the feats are good. But...
2. The Serpent featured in this series of tale has very little to do with Djoricverse, the section of lore which gives the Serpent its 1-A. This Serpent is not only pretty much just a big snake, without the weird abstract powers of the main universe, but its backstory is also very different. Instead of being a primordial part of the universe that existed ever since Biblical days, it was merely one of many kaijus back in the days. The world used to be full of giant monsters, until the Serpent came out on top, and then went out to create the Library. It's inherently not the same being as the most grandiose versions of the Serpent.
3. SCP-5514 being 1-A breaks scaling in various ways. In its tale, it fights and is threatened by Invisible Spiders, the various kaijus it fought were eaten by SCP-2256, and was vastly overpowered by the Crocrosquid in a 1v1 fight. But the problem is that both the Invisible Spiders are the Crocrosquids are mere physical emanations from SCP-3125. The Starfish spawns thousands of these things as a mere side-effect of it barely intersecting with the physical world. And while SCP-2256 has no explicit link to SCP-3125, it is featured in its tales and are clearly not superior to it. By scaling SCP-5514 to the 1-A Serpent, who should be comparable to SCP-3125, we are making the claim that these infinitesimal manifestations of SCP-3125 are superior to it. Which is nonsensical.
So yeah. 1-A bad, here. The Serpent in these tales is clearly separate from the main one with the big feats. So:
-Remove SCP-5514's EU key. All its EU key does is scale it to the Serpent. And that's no longer the case, so.
-Give the Serpent a War on All Fronts key. This version should be 6-A and have Flight, Large Size, Portal Creation, and the conceptual defenses of Kaijus in that canon.
-Downgrade SCP-6004's EU key to 6-A physically, and give it High 6-A through ED. This thing scales to the robot, so. Also give it the concept stuff in its EU key.
-Add a War on All Fronts key for the Invisible Spiders, with 6-A AP and the conceptual stuff for the other kaijus.
It should also be noted for all involved characters that they can pîerce each other's conceptual defenses. They both have fancy conceptual defenses and the means to pierce through other people's defenses.
