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Some ontological (?) questions

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So here are my hypothetical questions in a rapid fire succession. Would much appreciate it if you could answer them. If you need any clarification, please do ask.

  • Does physically resisting a qualitively superior hax become a disqualifier for the qualitively superior hax and individual using it?
  • Can a hax be High 1-A+ in potential? Or at least in its scale?
  • Can immortality type 9 (High 1-A+ level) be given to a character if there are statements of that character's soul being in the womb of the High 1-A+ character?
  • So in this verse, there are four levels of existence; the material body, ethereal body (essence), astral (spiritual) body and finally soul (their true form).
    1. The material body has a biological (some have inorganic) field that contains a blueprint for all of the physical information for that individual (inspired by the 70s phantom leaf experiment). This is further stated to being the key to existing in the material plane, as several phantoms take this route to make themselves a body and roam the material world load free.
    2. The ethereal body is the first layer of aura that establishes connection with higher realms, being the very bridge that connects one to higher bodies. Ethereal body is said to work in tandem with the physical body but also above it, physical body not being able to exist without essence. Ethereal body is made up of ether (particles¿ more pure and smaller than physical matter). Ether is noted to be the 13th and 5th element in the eastern and western sides of the world, respectively. But both represent the raw potential of emptiness, being quiet literally the void. Elements in the verse have shown functioning as essential ideas for entire realities (for e.g; lightning represents the constant transfer of energy, fire represents presence of energy, ice represents absence of energy, etc). These elements also naturally ignore the constraints of space-time, having zero to no mass (since they are essentially ideas) and are shown to be unaffected by the destruction of their world lines as a character was able to still feel and use the elements in the empty void after the destruction of an alternate world line. Also, these elements are just symbolic (magical) and do not correlate with the physical elements other than being their source and very idea.
    3. The astral body is stated to be the spiritual portion of one's existence, being the very thing that houses one's consciousness, memories and emotions. It is the flesh for the higher body, basically. Astral bodies are unbound from space and time, and are connected with every incarnation through their essence. This body is unaffected by the destruction of the physical body, simply moving onto the spiritual realm if anything happens to their material composition. Astral bodies are noted to be higher than essence in the sense of being closer towards divinity. Astral bodies are noted to be purely composed of Eidos. Eidos are particles¿ (sometimes referred to as eternal ideas) that are considered hollow and of pure information. Eidos is also responsible for the existence of the myriad laws of the world (namely elements). Eidos is responsible for the many textures of reality and what exists and doesn't exist, as well as what is solid and what is not solid, and along the lines. With Eidos being compared to a blueprint but for reality. A character gained the eyes of truth from a spirit, thus being able to see Eidos erratically exchanging and making the world we know. Eidos is sometimes referred to as the information layer of the reality, or the coding section as some data nerds say.
    4. Finally.. the soul. Soul is the metaphysical/ontological portion of a being's existence. It is basically called the equivalent of one's individuality. Furthermore, souls treat astral bodies the same way astral body treats the physical body—absolutely nothing. Souls are called the ideal body that is bathed in the Creator's light, existing in the astral realm—a realm of unlimited potential and no fixed form. They were first created in the world of emanation, the slowly descended to the world of action, striving to be one with Ein Soph once again. Souls are shown to be formless, and only one soul exists for incarnations of a individual throughout space-time. They also house spiritual awareness and ego (deeper consciousness) along with logos. Later in the series, it is stated that the souls are narrative devices, being directly connected to the Dreamlands (narrative space/channel). Even if a soul is destroyed, they would simply become one with the emptiness once again, awaiting the next cosmos.
What type of hax does destroying these bodies get you? Or is destroying them a disqualifier for their ontological superiority over the material plane? Also what level of regeneration would recovering from the destruction of each of these bodies get you?
  • And lastly, the final question. The verse in question is made up of three truths; language, text, and names. Stories in the verse make up everything, with stories themselves being shown as binary compositions. Stories compose the walls of reality from a single atom to the emptiness sperating the worlds, stories also compose laws that dictate everything in the verse. They dictate how words are going to be spoken and which unconscious action is going to be taken. And math is shown to be deeper than stories, with every literature and story having already existed in some form of numerical combination. But both stories and mathematics need the three truths to exist; the language that frames the sentence, text that describe the sentence, and finally names that give identity to the words.
    1. What would they each scale to individually? I meant, what ability would controlling these give you?
  • Okay, this one is the last question (probably?). Everything in the verse exists in a binary state (male and female, etc) to balance everything in creation. But the Creator exists above all these, being everything and nothing at the same time, adhering to no such laws that say two contradictory tasks cannot be done at the same time. The creator also doesn't have a name, a description, nor is there any language to comprehend their (dunno) existence. They are also above the nameless Tao (yes, this verse brings in a lot of cultural philosophy), with Tao being unable to be grasped as a concept and only felt through experience (don't worry, it's not cultivation). The Creator is also above the Black Sea (the blank canvas), an ocean of nothingness that cannot be filled, no matter what, everything being ultimately resulting as zero in comparison to its infinity. A void that existed before the conception of creation and will persist even after its end. From it came everything, and will one day certainty return. It is the end, the eventuality.
What ability would this grant the creator? Or what tier?​
 
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What the
  • Does physically resisting a qualitively superior hax become a disqualifier for the qualitively superior hax and individual using it?
It depends. If the verse is like Chinese cultivation novels where the same energy exists and circulates in all worlds then it is possible to resist. If the character borrows the power of a higher character, he can resist. If it is not one of these two cases, it is cooked.
  • Can a hax be High 1-A+ in potential? Or at least in its scale?
Yes. A character can draw their powers from a High 1-A+ source and thus be High 1-A+ smurfed.
  • Can immortality type 9 (High 1-A+ level) be given to a character if there are statements of that character's soul being in the womb of the High 1-A+ character?
Uh I think so since Immortality Type 9 is essentially Immortality Type 8 with range.
The material body has a biological (some have inorganic) field that contains a blueprint for all of the physical information for that individual (inspired by the 70s phantom leaf experiment). This is further stated to being the key to existing in the material plane, as several phantoms take this route to make themselves a body and roam the material world load free.
Average body.
The ethereal body is the first layer of aura that establishes connection with higher realms, being the very bridge that connects one to higher bodies. Ethereal body is said to work in tandem with the physical body but also above it, physical body not being able to exist without essence. Ethereal body is made up of ether (particles¿ more pure and smaller than physical matter). Ether is noted to be the 13th and 5th element in the eastern and western sides of the world, respectively. But both represent the raw potential of emptiness, being quiet literally the void. Elements in the verse have shown functioning as essential ideas for entire realities (for e.g; lightning represents the constant transfer of energy, fire represents presence of energy, ice represents absence of energy, etc). These elements also naturally ignore the constraints of space-time, having zero to no mass (since they are essentially ideas) and are shown to be unaffected by the destruction of their world lines as a character was able to still feel and use the elements in the empty void after the destruction of an alternate world line. Also, these elements are just symbolic (magical) and do not correlate with the physical elements other than being their source and very idea.
These elements are like platonic concepts uh. What is more fundamental between Ethereal body and Astral body?
The astral body is stated to be the spiritual portion of one's existence, being the very thing that houses one's consciousness and emotions. It is the flesh for the higher body, basically. Astral bodies are unbound from space and time, and are connected with every incarnation through their essence. This body is unaffected by the destruction of the physical body, simply moving onto the spiritual realm if anything happens to their material composition. Astral bodies are noted to be higher than essence in the sense of being closer towards divinity. Astral bodies are noted to be purely composed of Eidos. Eidos are particles¿ (sometimes referred to as eternal ideas) that are considered hollow and of pure information. Eidos is also responsible for the existence of the myriad laws of the world (namely elements). Eidos is responsible for the many textures of reality and what exists and doesn't exist, as well as what is solid and what is not solid, and along the lines. With Eidos being compared to a blueprint but for reality. A character gained the eyes of truth from a spirit, thus being able to see Eidos erratically exchanging and making the world we know. Eidos is sometimes referred to as the information layer of the reality, or the coding section as some data nerds say.
If it's Type 2 Information that will be cool.
Finally.. the soul. Soul is the metaphysical/ontological portion of a being's existence. It is basically called the equivalent of one's individuality. Furthermore, souls treat astral bodies the same way astral body treats the physical body—absolutely nothing. Souls are called the ideal body that is bathed in the Creator's light, existing in the astral realm—a realm of unlimited potential and no fixed form. They were first created in the world of emanation, the slowly descended to the world of action, striving to be one with Ein Soph once again. Souls are shown to be formless, and only one soul exists for incarnations of a individual throughout space-time. They also house spiritual awareness and ego (deeper consciousness) along with logos. Later in the series, it is stated that the souls are narrative devices, being directly connected to the Dreamlands (narrative space/channel). Even if a soul is destroyed, they would simply become one with the emptiness once again, awaiting the next cosmos.
Uh It's something more fundamental than the average soul.
What type of hax does destroying these bodies get you?
Material Body: bruh you know.
Ethereal Body: probably NPI or Energy Manipulation.
Astral Body: Information Manipulation.
Soul: Unconventional Soul Manipulation.
Or is destroying them a disqualifier for their ontological superiority over the material plane?
Normally not.
Also what level of regeneration would recovering from the destruction of each of these bodies get you?
Material Body: Low-Godly.
Ethereal Body: sucks, looks like High-Godly, idk.
Astral Body: High-Godly if it's more fundamental than the Ethereal Body and if High-Godly for the Ethereal Body is fine. In case High-Godly for the Ethereal Body is not fine; it will be Mid-Godly if the information is not Type 2 and High-Godly if it is Type 2.
Soul: High-Godly.
And lastly, the final question. The verse in question is made up of three truths; language, text, and names. Stories in the verse make up everything, with stories themselves being shown as binary compositions. Stories compose the walls of reality from a single atom to the emptiness sperating the worlds, stories also compose laws that dictate everything in the verse. They dictate how words are going to be spoken and which unconscious action is going to be taken. And math is shown to be deeper than stories, with every literature and story having already existed in some form of numerical combination. But both stories and mathematics need the three truths to exist; the language that frames the sentence, text that describe the sentence, and finally names that give identity to the words.
  1. What would they each scale to individually? I meant, what ability would controlling these give you?
I don't think it scales anywhere and the Stories will be Information Type 2. It will give stuff like: Law Manipulation, Mathematics Manipulation, Reality Warping, Plot Manipulation.
  • Okay, this one is the last question (probably?). Everything in the verse exists in a binary state (male and female, etc) to balance everything in creation. But the Creator exists above all these, being everything and nothing at the same time, adhering to no such laws that say two contradictory tasks cannot be done at the same time. The creator also doesn't have a name, a description, nor is there any language to comprehend their (dunno) existence. They are also above the nameless Tao (yes, this verse brings in a lot of cultural philosophy), with Tao being unable to be grasped as a concept and only felt through experience (don't worry, it's not cultivation). The Creator is also above the Black Sea (the blank canvas), an ocean of nothingness that cannot be filled, no matter what, everything being ultimately resulting as zero in comparison to its infinity. A void that existed before the conception of creation and will persist even after its end. From it came everything, and will one day certainty return. It is the end, the eventuality.
What ability would this grant the creator? Or what tier?​
Looks like Tier 0 shit.
 
What is the verse???
Oh, it's from my head. I was just asking questions and eventually just made lore for a verse. Looking back, I love world building (and wanking). Don't worry, I am not writing any of this in my novel. Was just legit curious and kept on writing.
 
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These elements are like platonic concepts uh. What is more fundamental between Ethereal body and Astral body?
Astral body.
I don't think it scales anywhere and the Stories will be Information Type 2. It will give stuff like: Law Manipulation, Mathematics Manipulation, Reality Warping, Plot Manipulation.
Wouldn't the three truths be at least a type 3 conceptual hax? Since they give identity and shape to all things in creation.

Other than that, thank you once again for answering my questions. This was a fun little QnA.
 
Since the character itself is not High 1-A+, it's possible.
Interesting. Wouldn't that be the most absurd Smurf character, though? Imagine trying to fight that character, but he just laughs off your attempts to destroy him and resists all of your hax while hitting you with the most absurd hax and erasing you beyond repair.
 
Interesting. Wouldn't that be the most absurd Smurf character, though? Imagine trying to fight that character, but he just laughs off your attempts to destroy him and resists all of your hax while hitting you with the most absurd hax and erasing you beyond repair.
Yeah it seems so.
 
Interesting. Wouldn't that be the most absurd Smurf character, though? Imagine trying to fight that character, but he just laughs off your attempts to destroy him and resists all of your hax while hitting you with the most absurd hax and erasing you beyond repair.
lord of the rings has/is getting tier 0 smurf hax and is virtually immune to all forms of soul destruction
 
BFR and sealing, and it's joever. Hah! Anyways, can you link me the thread?
 
Yeah, no. Given the context, it seems ethereal body is indeed above both astral and physical body, acting as a gateway to higher realms. I think I mixed some terms up. Since prana is supposed to exist in every single level of reality.

It seems astral body can be seen as a vehicle for non-physical experiences and emotions, while the ethereal body is the energetic blueprint that sustains both the body and mind, and soul is one's true eternal self beyond the world of action.
 
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Yeah, no. Given the context, it seems ethereal body is indeed above both astral and physical body, acting as a gateway to higher realms. I think I mixed some terms up. Since prana is supposed to exist in every single level of reality.

It seems astral body can be seen as a vehicle for non-physical experiences and emotions, while the ethereal body is the energetic blueprint that sustains both the body and mind, and soul is one's true eternal self beyond the world of action.
Yeah so looks like High-Godly for the Ethereal Body.
 
Guys, make this verse a reality. Write it down and make history ✍️
 
Wait, guys. I think I can make a whole new magic system with this. I actually have names for the pre-existing terms right now!
 
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