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Spamton is long dead before that actually does Joker in.
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Spamton Vs. Another Clown Around Town (The Joker)
- Thread starter ShockingPsychic
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Even if [Number1ratedsalesman1997] is willing to kill and can likely survive onto another form and even when has the possibility of dodging?
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Yes. Also that possibility is really damn slim considering who Joker consistently lands hits against.
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This argument is kind of split in half to an extent when speed is equalized. Also even if Spamton did get to the point to where he’s getting low on health, Joker would have to survive the NEO explosion afterwards and any attack regular Spamton will spam (Which he still has pretty good bullet hell) plus Spamton can temporarily transform into an item if he wants to POSSIBLY trick Joker (And before you ask, the only reason Spamton doesn’t do this against the fun gang is because Kris and Spamton became somewhat close ((Spamton considers Kris a friend and was blind-sighted by his personal goals and insanity)) and also due to the fact that Spamton somewhat realizes how insane he has become upon his NEO defeat)
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Uh, dude. Joker has like 30-40x AP advantage. Spamton isn't surviving a hit where Joker usually attacks, IE the head.
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After thinking it over I a little bit I think I’ll vote incon. Joker is not going survive if he gets hit by the bullet hell and Spamton isn’t going to survive if he gets hit too many times by Jokers attacks due to his AP advantage.
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Joke won't survive when he's hit too many times anyway, cause we've seen what Deltarune soul hax does when it is above a resistance, and it doesn't function much differently.
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Inconclusive FRA
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I'll settle for Incon FRA.
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Incon FRA
But, guys, remember, Spamton can survive his body Explosion, that means Joker need to shot his head, and Spamton just can simply eat his soul or just fall on Joker in Giga form
But, guys, remember, Spamton can survive his body Explosion, that means Joker need to shot his head, and Spamton just can simply eat his soul or just fall on Joker in Giga form
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incon fra
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bla bla bla, blue light special, bla bla bla soul manipulation bla bla bla
why there was so much discussion here? (I will read this now)
why there was so much discussion here? (I will read this now)
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How big is the AP gap here?
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So it's a... 40x gap?
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Thereabouts yeah. Spamton's only saving grace is the fact he negs dura
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Let's se... Spamton start e move would be faling from the sky in joker head and them shooting him with his blaster (same thing he did against kris during thee cutsene before their battle) or just get away, reallity warp some minecarts limiting joker mobility and rails above a city and spam giant spamton heads (cutscene were the heart becomes yellow in their pacifist route battle against kris)
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Whereas Joker kinda just kills people he doesn't know, either with a gun or some other ranged attack
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In, the first case spamton start with a sneak atack with thst heavens drop, but could be shooted wille charging
In the second he get's out of joker range and theme hit's joker with that heads, IDK if hee could shoot the projectiles withe his gun in this cenario
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Joker has tens of meters of range, Spamton only has several meters. Spamton is going to get shot considering Joker can consistently hit the god damn Batman with his shit.
Also dropping down will get no-sold because that actually doesn't hit the soul, and gets Spamton hit by a guy with a 40x AP advantage.
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The drop is more to trow the oponent at the ground so hee can shoot better, the minecart one he can just be out of sight wile doing It, like behind a building, qnd joker would be in a minecart riding in the sky of a city (and thinking here, neo range should be comparable to that city... Maybe)
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Joker is a masochistic genius and Spamton starts in his view, if he goes up into the air it doesn't take much to put two and two together especially with Joker's skill advantage.
That range only applies to his RW that isn't combat acclible IIRC
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Fair, so first option is a losse for him, IDK about thee second one, I just know that he is out of kris view when doing It
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I'm pretty sure it's kinda OOC for Spamton to go out of view of the minecarts...
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He just go in view when kris show to be able to break his projectiles (the entire cutscene were the soul become yellow and kris use a "BIG SHOT" spamton is of screen)
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So long enough for Joker to kind of just destroy all of his still heads and shoot him when he comes out which is 100% in-character
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As I said, Idk if he can destroy this heads with bullets sinse they aren't "soul energy", but I guess he could?
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We never really got a definitive answer on if they're physical or not, so I dunno lol
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In deltarune is 100% going out of the soul... And if were physical suzie and raisel could have just atacked them to break the Heads, I think
GodlyCharmander
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That is incorrect. Spamton scales to 0.013 Tons from his own attacks. Other than that, obviously incon fra (probably already reached grace but whatever)
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Which one? If so link it on his Bloody profile for crying out loud, do you expect people to magically be able to find a blog that isn’t linked to?
GodlyCharmander
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... "His bullets are this strong" links to the blog, smart genius. Were you looking at Base Spamton's key?
GodlyCharmander
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Either way, this changes virtually nothing. The gap is still a whopping 17x
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He didn't have that calc linked when the match started... Also that attack had a massive charge time at best the rest of Spamton's attacks downscale from it
GodlyCharmander
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Yes he did, he had it since the end of the CRT last month. Just pay attention next time.
Nope. Any high tier scales to this value because the SOUL tanks it. Spamton is 0.013 Tons, that's the objective reality.
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Ah yes, because the 100% serious attack that had like 5-10 seconds of charge time is comparable to Spamton's normal shots. Riiiight. Get real.
GodlyCharmander
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EDIT: Btw, no evidence for that. "Get real"
It is. It did no more damage than the other ones. You can cry about it, but that's the scaling on the profile and as long as you don't fight me in a CRT about it, it's staying as it is.
Either way, this already reached grace, and the change in value is irrelevant to the final result, so I am leaving.
