Steve Feat Scalability

[Buttersamuri]

Ok. Was told I should make a CRT on this. But recently. I posed a calc for Steve from Blues clues about a Plantary moving. Ant brought up he wasn't sure if the feat was usable to scale from. Which is what this discussion is about.

 

[Antvasima]

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[Mr. Bambu]

It shouldn't scale. It's a gag and isn't consistent for literally just a dude.

 

[Buttersamuri]

It shouldn't scale. It's a gag and isn't consistent for literally just a dude.

Issues with that.

For one. The things they have created like pictures and structures have held entire worlds in them. That have shown to have stars


For two. Steve is just "a dude".

A dude can who can jump across realities, A dude can fly across space and last in space with no air, A dude who's signing has manipulated stuff like creating stuff in the background before

Thats not a very good argument. Steve isn't some normal average everyday person. The fact he did that isn't just out of nowhere. He is extremely wacky. His singing created stuff while he was in a musical dimension


Sans is Just a skeleton

Twilight is just a pony

Batman is just a man

That argument doesn't work. And shouldn't work.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Yes, jumping into pictures clearly separating it from reality. Even the verse doesn't treat them as real. If he consistently did anything without the "verse" slapping one upside the head and telling you "this is not real, do not believe this" then I'd be inclined to follow your argument. As it stands its a kids show with relatively no feats when you realize most of it is either a gag or outright fake even from the verse's point of view.

Moving on.

 

[Buttersamuri]

"Jumping into pictures separating it from reality"

"Even the verse doesn't treat them as real."

Characters literally exist and live in these worlds. Some are even consistent characters in the show. And Absolutely Nothing. And I mean Nothing, suggest it's just imagination. Where are you getting that from? I've never downright seen them ever suggest or imply it to be fake. What's your basis on that? Cause it's a cartoon? And On top of that. Some more proof. He has jumped out his own reality into the audiences reality. Literally jumps out of the TV and into their reality. That backs up Far Far more that this isn't just his imagination. He downright goes to where the audience lives in a different reality than his own. And then Blue can also do this. So this just further nails in the reasons that yes. What he is doing is real. No reason to just call it fake or imagination or gags. Cause it's real, its happening, it's consistent, and it's a cartoon.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

To use another children's show as an example. Characters literally exist in the books in Super Why and are still considered books. Characters literally exist in the narrative levels of SCP and yet, that still is fiction to those above them. Any feat performed in what the verse itself deems fiction is 11-A. What he is doint isn't real.

 

[Buttersamuri]

The dimensional scaling doesn't work here. This is a very different set of rules established across the series. Though they live inside the book. They across literal dimensions, books themselves, and outside their dimension and still can exist there and carry the same issues. He still is quite third dimensional. If blue was that weak. Then when Blue enters into the real world, blue wouldn't be able to preform any viable feats. Grabbing and opening the book would prove hard for her with dimensional tier scaling. As the show proves. Just cause the exist in a book, doesn't mean they are that weak. The verse in a consistent level shows and suggests they can just hold entire dimensions inside them. Not that they are 11-A or anything close to it. This is even more viable when we see Steve and blue capable of going and interacting outside their Book.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Look, not terribly interested in debating against literal children's shows, and this is beginning to stink of Barney back in the day. Spell it how you like, the feats shouldn't scale under any common sense, that's my last judgement on the subject.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Mr. Bambu. This shouldn't be used. My apologies.