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Storm "Ororo Munroe" revision

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Storm has the psionic powers the manipulate the energies behind the weather, and is an energy absorber. She also possess a magic potential so strong it allows her to be a candidate sorcerer supreme. Her mystic potential is so vast she's Earth's High Priestess, a title that she shares equally Scarlet Witch, and Agatha Harkness.

Here is the scan from Uncanny 166 that states Ororo perceives the universe (stars, planets, empty space...) as patterns of energy and forces she can bend to her will. Which basically cosmic awarness.

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Storm was able to heal an entire Dimension of Trion that was broken.

http://***************.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-1963/Issue-369?id=23074#16

http://***************.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-1963/Issue-369?id=23074#17


"The Trion were three beings who were supreme and were the whole of their realm. The Trion was first seen when they teleported the X-Men to their dimension. The Trion are mortal enemies with Cytorrak, and when Cytorrak possessed the body of Juggernaut, he tried to break through dimensions until he got to the Trion's dimension where he intended to destroy the Trion. The Trion had banished all evil tendencies from themselves into a sphere of perfect darkness, and the sphere tried to reach out to Cytorrak to free it, but the X-men stopped him from doing it when they stopped Juggernaut, who was Cytorrak's vessel.
After the Trion put all their evil into one dark sphere, one fragment of that sphere broke off and traveled through a rift in reality and into Earth 616. Presumably, the Trion remain supreme in their realm. It is interesting that because there is no evil in their realm, there is no change, and is has been quite stagnant for eons."

The Trion, as the embodiment of their dimension, had incredible, near incalculable power. The laws of physics in their dimension differ greatly than that of Earth-like dimensions.

--Uncanny X-Men#368 (X-Men II#88, Uncanny X-Men#369, Avengers III#50 (first flashback)

Storm vs The Trion (please note that the lawas of physics in their dimension differ greatly from Earth like Dimensions and Storm powers adapts to the environment she's in)

http://***************.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-1963/Issue-369?id=23074#12

http://***************.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-1963/Issue-369?id=23074#14


Here she has the ability to manipulate the energies of millions of Stars to kill a droid in her body

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Stom learning of Logan Death created a solar wind, so strong it had enough power to set the world ablazed.

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X-men #82 Hunt for Xavier. Below are the scans where Nina captures the X-Men in a reality trap and Storm stated reality maybe have changed but nature is still nature

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I'll post more soon.
 
Also please note that Storm did not create a planetary storm as it says on her page. She manipulated gamma rays to create a cosmic turbulence to block the ones headed to earth.
 
The Trion "dimension" had very different laws of physics and magic than the regular Marvel universe, that caused some beings such as Storm and Juggernaut to grow vastly more powerful within it, and others to not have working powers at all, if I remember correctly.

Beyond that, we still need explicit quantifiab,e feats that we can calculate.

Also, I am getting tired of all the repetitive Storm threads.
 
The dimesion is also the embodiment of the Trion, who are about equal to Cytorrak in power. Storm powers adapt the environment she's in, which is why she's super powerful in space, but less powerful on Earth. The juggernaut has the Cytorrak, which is the trion enemy they were trying to get rid of. It would make no sense they would make Juggernaut more powerful. Also don't forget that Storm is a high level energy manipulator/Absorber

it's been stated several times on panel that Storm perceives the universe (stars, planets, empty space...) as patterns of energy and forces she can bend to her will.

She has shown to do in the scans above.

Also I tried to get someone the past feats calc and I was just told by one of the calc group members the energy to split a planet is small planet level.

What's repetitve about my thread. I'm actually presenting feats.
 
We cannot scale normal Storm or Juggernaut from their ratings within the Trion dimension. From what I remember they were stated outright to have grown enormously in power there, and Juggernaut was of enormous size and smashing through dimensional walls with his every movement.

Also, we do not know for certain how powerful the Trion were.
 
Storm was not given a power boost in the dimension. She powers adapted to the nature of that enviroment like it always does when she leaves Earth.

http://***************.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-1963/Issue-369?id=23074#12

Here it stated that her powers adapted to the same elemental force the Trion uses. Her power was not boosted it just adapted. This is a great adaption, and energy manipulation feat.

http://***************.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-1963/Issue-369?id=23074#14

Here is a sum of what happened because Storm power was not boosted.

"The Trion were three beings who were supreme and were the whole of their realm. The Trion was first seen when they teleported the X-Men to their dimension. The Trion are mortal enemies with Cytorrak, and when Cytorrak possessed the body of Juggernaut, he tried to break through dimensions until he got to the Trion's dimension where he intended to destroy the Trion. The Trion had banished all evil tendencies from themselves into a sphere of perfect darkness, and the sphere tried to reach out to Cytorrak to free it, but the X-men stopped him from doing it when they stopped Juggernaut, who was Cytorrak's vessel.
After the Trion put all their evil into one dark sphere, one fragment of that sphere broke off and traveled through a rift in reality and into Earth 616. Presumably, the Trion remain supreme in their realm. It is interesting that because there is no evil in their realm, there is no change, and is has been quite stagnant for eons.

The Trion, as the embodiment of their dimension, had incredible, near incalculable power. The laws of physics in their dimension differ greatly than that of Earth-like dimensions."
 
Here is another great feat for Storm.

"While investigating the threat of the Contrasepsis the Fantastic Four are attacked by a horde of the aliens at a tear in time and space. Soon the aliens breach the ship, forcing the team on the defensive. While the Thing holds off their attackers, Reed and the Black Panther finish putting together an Oditopian weapon, even though Reed suspects that this was the root cause of the crisis at hand. Still needed to test this theory out, Storm uses her powers to blast the Contrasepsis off the ships."

These aliens were strong enough to face The Thing, Sue Storm, who should be amped since they were in hyperspace and her powers come from it, Dr. Strange, Johnny Storm, and Silver Surfer.

http://***************.to/Comic/Fantastic-Four-1961/Issue-550?id=27222#3

http://***************.to/Comic/Fantastic-Four-1961/Issue-550?id=27222#4

http://***************.to/Comic/Fantastic-Four-1961/Issue-550?id=27222#5

http://***************.to/Comic/Fantastic-Four-1961/Issue-550?id=27222#6

http://***************.to/Comic/Fantastic-Four-1961/Issue-550?id=27222#14

http://***************.to/Comic/Fantastic-Four-1961/Issue-550?id=27222#15

http://***************.to/Comic/Fantastic-Four-1961/Issue-550?id=27222#17

http://***************.to/Comic/Fantastic-Four-1961/Issue-550?id=27222#18

http://***************.to/Comic/Fantastic-Four-1961/Issue-550?id=27222#19


Also keep in mind that Storm could have been amped since her powers are greater than on Earth. Plus they were in a Horologium Supercluster.
 
Here is another great feat.

Storm is able tank a mystic blast that was killing Magik, who was able to defeat the world eater. She is also able to absorb magic and manipulate it to the point she was able to create a portal via lightning. The same magic was killing Magik and the magic users were the powerful ones in their dimesion. These magic users had enough power to defeat or at least attempt to defeat a world eater that ate thousands of dimesions.

Here are claims to back up the Mystics being the most powerful ones in their dimension

http://***************.to/Comic/Extraordinary-X-Men/Issue-15?id=94033#13

Here is Storm tanking a blast and even manage to harm with World eater, who was generating enough power to destroy Limbo, is a magical pocket universe of demons.

http://***************.to/Comic/Extraordinary-X-Men/Issue-15?id=94033#14

http://***************.to/Comic/Extraordinary-X-Men/Issue-16?id=97235#6

http://***************.to/Comic/Extraordinary-X-Men/Issue-16?id=97235#7

http://***************.to/Comic/Extraordinary-X-Men/Issue-16?id=97235#8

http://***************.to/Comic/Extraordinary-X-Men/Issue-16?id=97235#9


Here Storm and Magik took a blast from the World Eater, a powerful creature that fed off dimensions, using a host native to its desired dimension in order to consume it and eat planets.

http://***************.to/Comic/Extraordinary-X-Men/Issue-14?id=90653#20

http://***************.to/Comic/Extraordinary-X-Men/Issue-14?id=90653#21

Here are scans backing up the world eater

http://***************.to/Comic/Extraordinary-X-Men/Issue-15?id=94033#11

http://***************.to/Comic/Extraordinary-X-Men/Issue-15?id=94033#12
 
Defeating the Trion is a massive outlier combined with that Storm's powers worked very differently within their home dimension. We can neither remotely scale the Trion, nor Storm, from the full power ever assigned to Cyttorak (2-C).

As for the other examples, again, Marvel is so unbelievably inconsistent that anybody can fight anybody, depending on the story. We need actual feats that can be calculated in order for Storm to properly scale from them. If you are unable to focus your threads about Storm on this type of feats, I would like to ask you to permanently stop making them, as they are not going to lead anywhere.
 
She didn't defeat the Trion at all. She took them on in battle. Storm's powers work differntly in each environment that is different. The trion purposely lured Storm there and she healed their dimension, which is a good high end energy absorbing and manipulating feat. I was not saying she should be near 2-C. I was showing you scans and facts that Storm powers operates on different levels depending on where she is located.

For example: Storm on earth is capable of moon level feats. Should be small planet level now as I was told in the Calc thread.

but once she reaches space her power is amped on a large scale. It all depends on which enviroment she is in. I feel like you're just lessering her to just Earth environment.

It's been stated several times that Storm that perceives the universe as patterns of energy and forces she can bend to her will.

She also has feats above I presented. Storm is definitely being lowballed here.
 
Well, again, we need specific feats that we can calculate, without any amplification through magical environments with different laws of physics, in order to rate her differently.
 
That is literally hard to do unless you wanna just scale her off just Earth alone. The x-men travels alot over the universe and Storm powers adapts to whatever power source is there. Storm in space was able to absorb and manipulate the energy on million of stars. Would not that put on her sentry level in space?

Also how is the Extraordinary X-men scans incosistent? Her and Magik took a shot from the World Eater (though it put them out, but Storm was right back on her feet the next page) Not to mention the fact she was able to absorb and manipulate magic from the Mystic users, (that had enough energy to take on the World eater.) to create a lightning portal to Limbo, that the World eater in the process of destroying, and her powers managed to harmed and knock him back.

I think it should be added on her profile that her power level depends on the power source/resources in her environment. For example Hell doesn't not have the energies Storm controls, so she was powerless during Astonishing X-men.

She should not be just limited to moon level just because of Earth Enviroment.
 
Again, if we went solely by powerscaling for Marvel, due to any available outlier, most of the regular characters would be High 1-B.

See here for a list of examples: Power-scaling Rules for Marvel and DC Comics

When did she absorb the sum total energies of millions of stars?

A note about that her power differs depending on her environment might be acceptable.
 
I don't think it says anything about her drawing or utilizing the sum total energies of that many stars, just that she was drawing upon them for power.
 
Well, absorbing an undefined amount of starlight is not quantifiable.
 
If you look at the scans, she was drawing power from the millions of stars, plus worlds without even trying.

In the next scan its states "Storm summons the power of the entire galactic core" It was even stated that her power was increased to an unimaginable degree, than what she does when she draws on Earth energy.
 
That doesn't mean she's tapping into ''all'' of their energy. That's more debatable but we'll just have to see what the calc would result in.
 
Her drawing on power, channeling, abosorbing, and manipulating it on high end scales have been consistent. Which would make sense as stated several time Storm sees the universe as patterns of energy and forces she can bend to her wild.

Her latest one was in Extraordinary X-men (that I read) is when she channeled the power of each Mystic users, who are the strongest ones in their dimension. Which is used to make a lightning portal to Limbo. The lightning was able to knock back the World Eater, an entity that eat dimesions.

Which is a good magic feat for her. Remember Storm comes from a long line of powerful witches specially someone like Oshtur.
 
Drawing on power from something =/= drawing on the full extent of that power. Storm seeing the universe as patterns of energy that she can control doesn't mean she can control the entire universe. It gives her Extrasensory Perception, not even Cosmic Awareness, because she's just seeing on other ends of the electromagnetic spectrum.

World Eater is definitely an outlier.
 
Put the stellar luminosity feat on the calc requests thread, but it's just High 6-A, so no upgrade there.
 
It says she summoning power from the entire core, when it was her shot to kill the embryo in her body.

On the first scan she did not draw full power. She was able to draw spiritual and material sustenance when she reached the Galactic core. When the power turned her back, she knew she had one chance to kill the embryo, so she called forth the full power of the entire core.
 
Yes. I understand. That doesn't mean she summoned ''all'' of the power available.
 
Promestein said:
Drawing on power from something =/= drawing on the full extent of that power. Storm seeing the universe as patterns of energy that she can control doesn't mean she can control the entire universe. It gives her Extrasensory Perception, not even Cosmic Awareness, because she's just seeing on other ends of the electromagnetic spectrum.
World Eater is definitely an outlier.
This is false. I never said that. It literally stated afterwards "Primal Natural Force which Storm shapes as a sculptress does her clay. It isn't easy. In Space, the elements are much more powerful than in a planetary atmosphere, the strength required to manipulate them correspondingly greater" No it is not She can see all energy no matter what it is.


World eater is a outlier please explain so?
 
Stellar luminosity is High 6-A, and this is via the Sun, which is considerably above average
 
You keep saying that as if it does, though. You keep saying that as if it's proof of a high tier when it's not.

Storm's displayed level of power is not nearly that high most of the time.
 
Promestein said:
Put the stellar luminosity feat on the calc requests thread, but it's just High 6-A, so no upgrade there.
why is this only High 6-A? This is not a few stars but millions that she draw on and also living planets.
 
Promestein said:
You keep saying that as if it does, though. You keep saying that as if it's proof of a high tier when it's not.
Storm's displayed level of power is not nearly that high most of the time.
Show scans where her power level is not high? She is being lowballed. Storm while operating on earth Enviroment is capable of small planet level feats and she's in space which has been stated over and over agian the elements are power powerful there.
 
^^^^ She is being done dirty. She has multiple feats to prove. I do not understand how Wanda's chaos wave (something she has only did once and it came out of no where) is not a outlier, but Storm proving again and again with feats above is.
 
I'm fine with Storm being Small Planet level on Earth.

I'd prefer something more concrete to boost her to Tier 4 in space.
 
That'd be appreciated. Thank you.
 
We need accepted calculations in order to boost her though.
 
Should not Storm be planet level on Earth? She one shotted Doombots to crisp with lightning and they were upgraded with almost all of Wakanda vibranium


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