Super Yhwach vs Reinhard

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Prime Rei-O vs 5-B Reinhard


Speed is Equalized


Winner via any means necessary


Battle takes place in a trailer park somewhere in Kentucky


Soul King: 0


Reinhard Heydrich:0


Incon: 0

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

What changes from the other thread?

 

[Ionliosite]

What changes from the other thread?

Super Yhwach is physically stronger. Nothing else.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Ah shit, 4-A...

Reinhard becomes a paste and gore until he has enough and throws the spear

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

4-A, has a lot more hax and a lot more Resistance than Yhwach does.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

And that changes what exactly?

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

The fact that he actually has a lot more hax to deal with Rein,and has more Resistance to his attacks. Also this doesn't take place in Glad, so the Rei-O is easily able to negate his regen. Read the profile perhaps?

 

[Warren_Valion]

I don't think the Soul King is going to far much better against Reinhard than his son, tbh.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Rei-O can negate Mid-Godly, since when?

Rein starts the fight by entering glads if the fight doesn't start in it

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Heh

Reinhard type 8 means he can't be killed, he will spawn again and again.

He can't kill reinhard while Rein can do kill him on thought with glads (inb4 Warren debunks me :v), deploy it around them, or just throw the spear.

Read the profile perhaps?

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Oh look, Paul Frank using strawman arguments again, how surprising. That was very clearly in reference to the Low-Godly regen but nice try.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Yeah but he wont be dealing with the low godly because Reinhard instantly enters glads so yeah

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Also Tony, he doesn't need to kill Rein, and I have read the profile. Also, Rein's only way of winning this as far as I know is Glad or the Spear.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

If he is gettin turned to paste and gore with every strike he will use it far more earlier than you think.

Also, how can he win? Soul king I mean.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Guys, act civil.

Don't throw around ad hominems.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Yeah, sorry.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

i still question how he doesn't get the mind hax treament from LLT. Actually scratch looking wasn't it simply cuz of presence that soul and mind activated?

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Does Reinhard passively start off the match with Glad or the Spear? If not literally anything Rei-O does will negate his Regenerationn.


BFR into the Dangai, Transmutation, Book of The End, etc.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Warren said something about it on the other thread

 

[Dvorak1902]

The Spear has Irrelevant Speed. It already got thrown.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Reinhard starts the fight with gladsheim

Also Warren agreed on the other thread that almighty isn't stopping the passives so Rei-O gets passive stomped

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Type 8 on both, a 1-A structure and a 1-A entity says Hi.

Glads laughs at the BFR, can transmutation deal with someone who needs no body? What is book of the end?

 

[Eganergo]

Bfr-ing Reinhard is a big nope. At least low godly says hi from transmutation, etc.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Mind manipulating Reinhard...

 

[Dragopentling]

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Transmutation actually does bypass low-Godly, iirc it actually negates up to mind off the top of my memory from a SCP thread. Low Godly gets negated, although Type 8 saves him and then goes for the spear.


If Rein wasn't a smurf I'd actually argue that Rei-O takes this

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

>Low-Godly actually does bypass low-Godly

w0t?

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Mind manipulating Reinhard...

Book of the End isn't mind manipulation, it's the literal manipulation of the past. Have you read Bleach like at all before? Dont mean that in a rude way btw.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

No offense but the profile implies he creates new memories for the past version of his opponent

Also, nope, all I know is from the profile.

"Memory Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Past Manipulation with Book of the End (Can insert himself into the past of whomever is affected to create new memories, break their mind entirely by overloading them with too much information or to forcibly alter the present by created new timelines)"

 

[Dvorak1902]

Rein is resistant to Midgard Volsunga Saga which erases it's victims across history. Maybe I misread, I should be sleeping.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Does Reinhard passively start off the match with Glad or the Spear? If not literally anything Rei-O does will negate his Regenerationn.

BFR into the Dangai, Transmutation, Book of The End, etc.

The Spear is out automatically at the start of a fight and summoning Glads is Reinhard's first move (it's thought-based).


It was concluded that Yhwach, or the Soul King in this case, wouldn't be able to negate Reinhard's mindhax because it emanates from a 1-A object - the Spear. And that Yhwach (or Reio) have no proof of being able to take powers from such an object.

BFR would never work as Glads has 1-A range.


@Dvorak1902

That's only if the Spear is thrown.

It normally only moves as fast as Reinhard can swing it around.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

if he starts with glads doesn't that mean he could soul hax or smth? And doesn't he carry his spear to battle anyway doe?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

No? It is just conceptual EE, if it has a history then MVS just brings it forcibly to an end

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

How does Reinhard not stomp this?

 

[Eganergo]

Not related but i think Rein should have acausal type 4 or 5 when inside Glads. Merc described Glads no longer inside ghetto or something. Gonna need to play the game again.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Don't say it, I'm actually having fun here

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Mind manipulation isn't the direct effect of the Book Of The End, essentially what it does is create an entirely new alternate timeline in the opponent, in essence it's the manipulation of the past, it's not temporal either as he explains it himself. Mind and memory hax are just the indirect effects.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

"Merc described Glads as no longer inside the ghetto"


Yo **** I don't live in the ghetto, that makes me Acausal.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Isn't creating a new time line low 2-C?

would that even affect the script of Merc?

 

[Eganergo]

"Merc described Glads as no longer inside the ghetto"


Yo **** I don't live in the ghetto, that makes me Acausal.

Ghetto is just a terms of Mercurius law.