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So is gojo/sukuna gonna scale beyond tiering?
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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"
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Tdjwo
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Welp. I guess SMT would be stuck at 1A then.
I'm aware of that. What I'm trying to say is that there is more than 1 creator which goes against the Tier 0 requirements. And a tier 0 being cannot be said to eventually reach tier 0 status. It has to have been tier 0 from the start.
I'm well aware of this and I agree.
Tdjwo
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You say this multiple times but Ultima already confirmed the root to be indeed Tier 0 and it meets every single requirement of Tier 0.
The creator was never said to be tier 0 tho. The only way it would be is if it's confirmed to be completely unreachable (Featherine almost reached it). And if it's stayed that only 1 being can be the creator because as far as I can remember, it's called "Creators" rather than "Creator"
The Root is tier 0 tho as it follows all the requirements.
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For 1, Creators are not individuals beings. Just because there are multiple Creator avatars does not mean they are separated characters. The whole point is that they loose individuality and become one. Tier 0s still possess the ability to operate through multiple avatars. That isn't an anti-feat.
For 2, you can "eventually" become a Tier 0 if it is through the method of losing individuality and thus succeeding in transcending the distinction of qualities and becoming one with everything. I just said this.
Tdjwo
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I mean, pretty much all the tier 0's HAVE TO BE "bootleg" religious figures to qualify tbh.
Lmao
I see. In that case, maybe Umineko might be tier 0 as well.
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I just wonder how many weird upgrades would happen for unexpected characters, I know Uncle Grandpa has a upgrade justification thanks to here
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I'm more interested in which of the characters will get downgraded into oblivion despire previously being the pinnacle of Outerversal and High Outer tiers and even finding their ways into Boundless
Tdjwo
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Crazy how we typed this at the same time lmfao
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The hivemind is proud of us
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Guy named Mr.Bambu:Everyone: I wonder what tier scp verse will end up in in the new tier system tier 1-A? h1-A? or maybe tier 0?
Scp verse:
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Why are we using the term Monad I get we are using the original meaning but it has another meaning in philosophy as it is used to refer to basic and immaterial elementary particles/simplest units. The Absolute or Ultimate reality seem to have more consistent definitions and refer to a similar if not identical concept.
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I dunno, ask Ultima
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Speaking of, when will Masadaverse come back to the Wiki?
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Most of them Tier 0s will become High 1-A instead, but Bambu cooked the verseEveryone: I wonder what tier scp verse will end up in in the new tier system tier 1-A? h1-A? or maybe tier 0?
Scp verse:
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If we assume The Root is genuinely beyond all descriptions and definitions one can give it, and follows all of the guidelines for 0, I genuinely don’t see why it wouldn’t be 0
Tdjwo
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Well, no amount of agenda against Nasu is going to prevent it from reaching tier 0 this time around. Even Ultima's blog uses Apophatic Theology.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Ultima_Reality/thingy#How_to_Qualify
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Entirely out of convenience. I needed a name and that one worked, so.
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Monad physiology
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I agree that the Apophatic Theory is 0. However, the concept is impossible to apply and there is no logical sense in using it even when theorizing how it can even work.
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Pretty sure divine simplicity covers everything about it.
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Can’t wait for Nasuverse characters to have tier 0 social influencing
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Nah, Axiom still gets high 1-A
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@Ultima_Reality yo ultima when do you think things from your 2 crts are going to be rolled out? ik it probably takes a lot of time but i see all these characters that I KNOW are going to be changed and im just curious where things are at
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Trust me, you don't want to know what Ultima does when he's actually not doing CRTs.
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(procrastinating)
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planning NEXT crt ensues
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in toaru there is no one stronger than the magic god for now, where did you hear Ain Sof nonsense
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Why don't you ask Shinza supporters directly?
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Speaking of verses coming back to the wiki, from the little I know of Demonbane based on the last revision they did which would've upgraded them to 0 had it not been for the Tiering Revision, it'd be At least 1-A at a minimum via all the dream/dreamer and R/F stuff on the lower ends of the cosmology
Also even by separating DeMatteis' Cosmology from Marvel, You still get 1-A at a minimum from DeMatteis cosmology due to the dreams within dreams for the higher worlds, much less all of the philosophical stuff his Marvel works have (especially the likes of Into Shamballa and the early Silver Surfer comics)
Also even by separating DeMatteis' Cosmology from Marvel, You still get 1-A at a minimum from DeMatteis cosmology due to the dreams within dreams for the higher worlds, much less all of the philosophical stuff his Marvel works have (especially the likes of Into Shamballa and the early Silver Surfer comics)
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Yeah um those concepts blatantly come from broken AF Hindiusm concepts. I wonder if Maharashak Devi and it’s prequel scales to 0 as well…
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Speaking of religious concepts, if wog states that a certain character has a achieved a religious state of being, is that enough evidence to apply that to the character, or would there have to be in-verse proof to apply it?
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I think that’s a case by case basis, and they’d have to be pretty explicit . For example, not everyone who obtains Nirvana will be comparable to Buddhism Nirvana. Is there a particular example you have that you want to verify ?
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I was just generally curious; I looked over the rules pertaining to gods of real-life religions, but couldn't find anything about the religions themselves. I know that Jujutsu Kaisen used to be stronger by using religious stuff before it was taken out.
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