That's not how that works. You need Six Paths Sage Mode or a Rinnegan to be able to tell that Limbo Clones Exist. Either way, Kakashi would never allow Madara to even hit him because he knows exactly what Madara can do in this Key since he was literally watching him the entire time earlier and would just go for Kamui Sniping him.
That isn't really how it works
Six Paths Sage Mode is a mode provided by Six Paths chakra. I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption to say having it makes you aware of limbo.
That doesn't strongly indicate anything. It just doesn't prove he can sense it, it does nothing in disproving it.
Imagine if Pain Arc Kakashi sniped Juubi Madara's head off that'd be hillarious XD
It is an unreasonable assumption because it's supported by nothing and Kakashi doesn't have Extrasensory Perception like Naruto and Sasuke do on their profiles for sensing/seeing Madara's Limbo Clones, so you'd have to make a CRT to have it accepted.
doesn't matter, the Kamui snipe speed is ridiculously fast, fast enough to intercept Kaguya and her attacks, a Person who is quantifiable faster than this Madara.
Kakashi has never done that, this is an in character fight.
Tbf, Obito is also way faster than that Sasuke so that also helped him block Amaterasu.
Amaterasu doesn't travel though, it just appears at whatever the user is looking at, so I don't think Sasuke's speed is really relevant for Obito being able to see that he was about to use it and block it in time.
It does when the Raikage does something similar but for dodging instead because he's that much faster than him.
The difference between that and this is that the Raikage was simply too fast for Sasuke's perception to keep up, in this instance, Obito was literally just standing still, he didn't even evade Sasuke's Amaterasu, he blocked it.
I know that, I'm just saying that he couldn't have Blocked it unless he was fast enough to do so even if he saw it coming. That wouldn't make sense.
You can though, think of it like precog, he knew Sasuke was going to use Amaterasu before Sasuke actually released Amaterasu, so he was able to put his arm up and block with a TSB before Sasuke had even "fired" it.
Madara would die first from the kamui shuriken.
1. Do you think DMS Kakashi is faster than Kaguya? If not, that shows equal speed doesn't prevent Madara from getting sniped.
Obito has far faster reactions than Sasuke, that's why he could. He wasn't able to react to Amaterasu before when they met after the Itachi fight despite having the sharingan active and likely greater speed.
If the chakra built up too fast he wouldn't have been able to get his staff up in time.
No, he'd put up a TSB shield and that would get eaten by the Kamui Shuriken, Kakashi then proceeds to get fodderized by Madara's Limbo Clone which he can't do a single thing about.
Not relevant to any argument I've made in this thread
It doesn't take long for Amaterasu to charge up either, didn't stop Obito from seeing it coming and easily countering it
Kakashi has never done this, this is an in character fight.
Let me correct my post, has Kakashi ever BFR'd an opponent with Kamui?
Except that's clearly not what happened
The fact remains that chakra needs to be built up at all, which is visible by the Sharingan and the Rinnegan, which allowed Obito to block an attack that's instantaneous, exactly the same with Kamui.
Susanoo is going to protect him for a while aswell as being intangible, also "As long as they cannot return from wherever they have been transported to within a certain amount of time - a week, going by Standard Battle Assumptions - victory is reached through BFR."
Yes, the first thing he did when he used his Kamui for the first time is try to BFR Deidara, the only reason it didn't work is because it was slow and Deidara was able to move out the way.
Kakashi hasn't demonstrated to be constantly intangible, he's only done so to avoid attacks, but of course, he can't perceive Limbo at all so he gets destroyed.
This doesn't factor in if Kakashi is dead while Madara is BFR'd though, that isn't a win for either of them, it's an incon.
Never was it stated that Kakashi intended to send Deidara's entire body to the Kamui dimension, it's not clear what his real intent was, in fact it seems like he was aiming for Deidara's head to me.
The Kamui shuriken explosion is quite large, it'd engulf both the TSO shield and him together.
He'll be in his PS though, and he knows about limbo so he'll stay intangible as he knows an attack will come.
No he won't, he's not gonna be fast enough. Kakashi's kamui is also six paths amped.
this Madara is 6-A.
No, this Madara is 6-A, likely 5-C.
I don't understand why people use his fight with Guy in an attempt to downplay him, it's pretty obvious why he acted the way he did in that instance.
There's also the matter of him knowing exactly how Kamui works, he's used it himself and seen it used several times, he's one of the most intelligent characters in the series, it's just pure downplay to say he's going to play around or give a speech and let his head be sniped off, he's fully aware of how strong Kamui is, he even remarks how good Kamui is when he sees the Gedo Mazo's arm sniped off.
You're just blatantly lying when you say Madara started using Limbo clones late in that fight, he used them literally when Naruto first attacked and constantly during their fight, that's how he'd fight against an opponent he has no interest in, like Kakashi.
it's not downplay it's the truth, Madara loves to fight and will do anything to get the most out of it, you don't think a non uchiha suddenly popping up with a perfect susanoo isn't going to peak his interest?
He knows how it works but does not know how strong or fast it is, the Kamui he encountered was ridiculously worse and bottlenecked by the fact they were being used by two different people, this Kamui isnt slower than him.
Naruto and Sasuke appearing IS later in the fight (the fight referring to Might GUY VS MADARA), He resorts to Limbo after being overpowered by Naruto and being surprised that he casually kicked his TSB ball away, after getting fodderized by Naruto's lava rasenshuriken he takes Naruto and Sasuke seriously and does whatever he can to avoid getting hurt or sealed, in character this Madara's first attack is TSB.
nope this is the Madara after Absorbing the Tree but before going after Kakashi, we don't include Obito's sharingan on Madara's page,if Op wanted Madara with Obito's Sharingan it would have been mentioned as it's not part of his standard Arsenal
Yes, Madara loves to fight people who are strong or have something extremely rare like the Eight Inner Gates, Kakashi has nothing he hasn't seen or doesn't himself have.
I'm confused on what you even mean with this, prove Kakashi's Kamui got faster when he gained DMS.
No idea why you're not considering them separate fights, Madara used it instantly against Naruto and constantly during his fight with Naruto and Sasuke, this is factual.
What is this based on? SBA is the latest or strongest version of a key, the strongest/latest version of this Madara is when he has Obito's Sharingan right before he takes back his second Rinnegan.
Him having it doesn't mean it's not interesting to fight.
