Tier 1 & 0 Review Thread

[VeneficaAuthor]

Also the Mother Chronicles have already been rejected before, I believe multiple times.

I assume you're planning on submitting it again. Please, make absolutely sure that everything is in order and prepared. We don't want to have to reject the same things over and over and over again. If it gets rejected again, it'll be a long time before it can be resubmitted.

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

Also the Mother Chronicles have already been rejected before, I believe multiple times.

I assume you're planning on submitting it again. Please, make absolutely sure that everything is in order and prepared. We don't want to have to reject the same things over and over and over again. If it gets rejected again, it'll be a long time before it can be resubmitted.

Okay

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Roleplay verse was rejected.

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

It's just difficult to judge the quality of the page since it lacks information for a tier 1 character. Fanfiction doesn't need to go through the whole cosmology acceptance thing, but tier 1 pages still need to stand out among other pages and quality is probably the most important thing. Like, is this a good fanfiction Ness? I haven't played Earthbound so I'm unsure how different it is. I'd like to know more.

Would you like to know more?

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

Also the Mother Chronicles have already been rejected before, I believe multiple times.

I assume you're planning on submitting it again. Please, make absolutely sure that everything is in order and prepared. We don't want to have to reject the same things over and over and over again. If it gets rejected again, it'll be a long time before it can be resubmitted.

Can the “Users:” section for RETRY be removed? I think it’s not necessary to add it since the profiles will show who has it and who doesn’t.

Link

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Can the “Users:” section for RETRY be removed? I think it’s not necessary to add it since the profiles will show who has it and who doesn’t.

Link

Wouldn't you/Karuu be the one with that prerogative? Add or subtract what you feel necessary to explain the cosmology

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

Wouldn't you/Karuu be the one with that prerogative? Add or subtract what you feel necessary to explain the cosmology

K

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Submitting for review: cosmology page & character page.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bump?

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Submitting for review: cosmology page & character page.

The blog itself is well made and covers its bases, I’m actually general fine with this. Although, with that said, I am pretty curious as to how and why undertale AU’s scale this high.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

The blog itself is well made and covers its bases, I’m actually general fine with this. Although, with that said, I am pretty curious as to how and why undertale AU’s scale this high.

This is because these characters are fundamentally built on the idea of interacting with different AUs and being active on multiversal scale in one way or another. The original Undertale already plays with the idea of there being other timelines, and Undertale community at that moment started creating and heavily popularizing fanmade AUs of the original Undertale, so both creators had to think about how these characters would work and interact with different timelines and AUs.

With CORE!Frisk, their core premise (pun intended) is that they are merged with "the Undertale Multiverse itself" and are omnipresent within it. The very idea of how she came up with it was "what if Frisk fell into the Core and was scattered through the time and space similarly to Gaster but with different outcome? Due to Frisk's connection to time powers and much stronger soul, they would have much better grip on the space-time". They basically embody all of AUs, timelines, Multiverses with different laws, voids, etc. With Error!Sans, his very core idea is that he is an AU destroyer that will erase all "anomalies" until there is only one "correct" timeline left, and that's what he considers his job. Naturally an AU destroy character would scale high. Also, as shown in cosmology blog, both of them have special structures that “belong” to them, like Omega Timeline for Core!Frisk and Anti-Void for Error!Sans.

It is only intuitive that such concepts would need elaborate cosmology to explain their nature, abilities, interactions, unique structures, consequences of their actions, and established rules for everything.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

(So, uh... is it good?)

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

(So, uh... is it good?)

Needs more staff opinions. A majority of staff need to vote to approve.

 

[Phoenks]

Submitting for review: cosmology page & character page.

About this... there is a couple of problems.

The main point I'm going to bring up, is that just because something is referred to as the 5th, 6th, 7th, nth-number of dimensions, does NOT mean it qualifies for quantitative superiority in VSBW terms. If the actual definition of these dimensions doesn't line up with what is necessary for it to count.

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For the 5th-dimension, it doesn't actually qualify for Low 1-C, since "5-D" in the AU that just refers to past, present, future, + alternative timelines. So it would be 2-A, not Low 1-C. There is no uncountable infinity here. It seems to just be your typical infinite probabilities multiverse.

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For the 6th-dimension, there is the same issue. The 6th dimension is described as being "the past, present and future of your timeline and all of its infinite probabilities, as well as infinite parallel alternative versions of your timeline."

This is basically multiplying the previous infinity of possibilities by another infinity of possibilities. While the "5th-dimension" was about the infinite possible outcomes tied to core aspects of your original reality, the 6th dimension includes the infinite universes that are not tied to it.

So, this would also just scale to 2-A. Having an unquantifiably bigger, or even infinitely larger 2-A structure does not qualify for Low 1-C.

Having more 2-A structures, or even infinitely many 2-A structures, unless uncountably infinitely many, won't be above a single 2-A structure in size. This is due to these structures actually having the same size as a baseline 2-A structure. (Tiering System FAQ)

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The same issue arises with 7-D, which seems to simply be the infinite variability of the multiverses themselves. "the past, present and future of all timelines in existence and their infinite parallel alternative versions, including all infinite probabilities."

So, it is basically just an even larger multiverse of multiverses. But, this would still just end up being baseline 2-A.

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For 8-D, it seems like you are trying to argue for some kind of hypertimeline that overlaps the multiverse?

I disagree with this interpretation. Your scans say that Frisk merged with the timeline of the multiverse, which allows him to see all timelines, including those that have ended.

It also explicitly says that just because a timeline ends, does not mean it did not exist in the first place. So there's no reason to assume Frisk, who is merged with all of time and space, wouldn't have access to those timelines.

There is no need for an extra-temporal dimension to exist in this case.

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All of other verses, like Steven Universe and Gravity Falls verses, altogether make up an 8D structure,[37] just like five-dimensional AUs made up a six-dimensional Multiverse.[37] They collectively are also called "overlapping independent Mutliverses".[45] In short, it represents any fictional story.[45] This is supported and solidified by Ask Error!Sans which recognizes multiple Fandoms of fiction.[75]

This is completely incoherent for anything tiering related. At best, it would just mean that there are other universes/multiverses that are outside of the AUs and whatnot. There is no way to tier the existence of Fan-Fiction Universes inside of a Fan-Fiction.

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9D - the past, present and future of all timelines in existence and their parallel alternative versions, including all infinite probabilities as well as other alternative multiverses, including the ones that are impossible to exist. Examples: the entire fiction-verse. If you were a 9D it would mean you can go into every single fictional story in existence, even the ones what were never thought of (and will NEVER be thought of) in first place.

Also similarly incoherent for tiering. What am I supposed to make of them saying that all of fiction is inside of their verse, in one dimension? If this was to be taken at face value, this would actually be High 1-A+, due to occupying all logical possibilities, but---there are obviously so many issues with that. Notably, it says in the very next dimension that "our universe" (the real world) is above it.

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It looks like it's just infinite alternate timelines, but actually, there are uncountably infinite of them, as they come from "timeline splits", meaning each possibility at each point of time creates different timelines, and since there are uncountable infinite points of time, there should be uncountably infinite timelines corresponsing to them.

Actually, no. There is nothing to showcase uncountably infinities in these stacks. Timeline splits by themselves are not ever going to result in an aleph-1 amount of universes. There needs to be significantly more evidence to argue that. Not to mention, each action only produces a "number" of splits, not an infinite amount of them.

This means that the extra axis is composed of uncountable infinite timelines, making it significant. Other levels would by the same principle have significant axis. As said in the very beginning, the cosmology is built on the very principle that everything is possible, thus uncountable nature of infinity makes sense. Supportingly, the gap between 10D and lower dimensions is reality-fiction one, which further supports the extra-axises being significant

A fake R>F gap does not support real dimensional gaps.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

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You are absolutely correct that if you just take those at face value, it appears to be 2-A multiplied by infinity multiplied by infinity and so on… the main scaling proof is at the end, so I’ll just skip to that.

For 8-D, it seems like you are trying to argue for some kind of hypertimeline that overlaps the multiverse?

I disagree with this interpretation. Your scans say that Frisk merged with the timeline of the multiverse, which allows him to see all timelines, including those that have ended.

It also explicitly says that just because a timeline ends, does not mean it did not exist in the first place. So there's no reason to assume Frisk, who is merged with all of time and space, wouldn't have access to those timelines.

If the entire timeline is destroyed, it has no future, past, or present. This is how canon UT Top Tiers are Immeasurable after all, since it says timeline, not just universe. It is entirely nuked. Hence why there has to be a higher time axis for Frisk to see it before it was destroyed.

Even if it is not satisfied, the blog also elaborated that even after Error!Sans destruction of AU, the AU was still accessible via time portal. Although the link is “broken” in the blog, it as a sandbox is linked in my submission. It has full elaborate proof why Error’s destruction destroys the entirety of time as well. It would be impossible to see that universe if there was no higher temporal axis, since it’s past simply wouldn’t exist.

Actually, no. There is nothing to showcase uncountably infinities in these stacks. Timeline splits by themselves are not ever going to result in an aleph-1 amount of universes. There needs to be significantly more evidence to argue that. Not to mention, each action only produces a "number" of splits, not an infinite amount of them.

A “number” does not exclude that there is an infinite one. Timeline split section pretty much proved that there are infinite probabilities. Ask Error!Sans solidified stuff solidified.

But the main argument is not even that. It is that the timeline split logically happens at every point of the timeline, since it’s probabilities based. Even if you assume just 2, you will still get alpha-1 splits and thus alpha-1 amount of timelines making up the AU, making 5th axis significant.

A fake R>F gap does not support real dimensional gaps.

It does, though. Hence why I specifically linked Gravity Falls. I’m not sure if being sister wikia is of relevance, but I think there should be consistency with VS Battles Wikia. There, Dennis seeing entire world as a card yet having an anti-feat was a proof of his R>F being fake and thus only +1D. However, it showed that gap between lower and higher dimension is same as such “fake” R>F relationship, thus the difference being significant. This is how Bill Cipher went from “Low 1-C, possibly 1-B” to straight up “1-B”. Same logic applies here: it explicitly shows that the gap between higher and lower dimensions is same as “fake” R>F, which shows significant superiority/inferiority between the dimensions.

One thing I want to also note is that Omega Timeline being “hyperspace timeline” would pretty much make it a 5D spacetime, and it was shown to be infinite in size, which solidifies dimensions being significant as Omega Timeline is parallel to all of the AUs. All proof is in the blog under “Special Structures”.
(I should’ve probably added this into the blog itself)

Also sorry for constantly asking to check the blog instead of directly linking, but I’m currently on the phone and linking everything directly would be one hell of a thing to do. Besides the point of the blog is to give evidence anyways.

 

[Phoenks]

If the entire timeline is destroyed, it has no future, past, or present. This is how canon UT Top Tiers are Immeasurable after all, since it says timeline, not just universe. It is entirely nuked. Hence why there has to be a higher time axis for Frisk to see it before it was destroyed.

"Just because something stops to exist doesn’t mean it never existed in first place. Frisk can go and hang out in destroyed timelines simply by manifesting there before they got destroyed. Timelines never disappear (from Frisk’s point of view), they just suddenly end. "

This statement pretty much just completely contradicts what you just said.

A “number” does not exclude that there is an infinite one. Timeline split section pretty much proved that there are infinite probabilities. Ask Error!Sans solidified stuff solidified.

There is no evidence that every split results in the creation of infinite timelines. Every scan explicitly shows otherwise.

But the main argument is not even that. It is that the timeline split logically happens at every point of the timeline, since it’s probabilities based. Even if you assume just 2, you will still get alpha-1 splits and thus alpha-1 amount of timelines making up the AU, making 5th axis significant.

This is not how the math works out. If you have finite splits across an infinite timeline, it'll always just be Aleph-0. [3 x 5 x 9 x 100000 x ........], will never be Aleph-1, even if it continues an infinite amount of times over.

There is also no evidence that splits happen at every single point across the uncountably infinite points of the timeline, such as in the case of the MCU multiverse.

All you really have are statements saying that actions result in a finite number of splits into more universes, which there are a collectively infinite amount of. That's not enough for Low 1-C.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

"Just because something stops to exist doesn’t mean it never existed in first place. Frisk can go and hang out in destroyed timelines simply by manifesting there before they got destroyed. Timelines never disappear (from Frisk’s point of view), they just suddenly end. "

This statement pretty much just completely contradicts what you just said.

Not really. It makes perfect sense with higher time axis, no sense otherwise. If all past was destroyed and space-time of universe ended, Frisk wouldn’t be able to see it before it was destroyed. It would if there was higher time, since there would be “yesterday” for the destroyed timeline on a 2D time scale, but not 1D.
It never disappears for Frisk because for them, there is no “past”, “present”, or “future” as they are merged with space-time.

Also what about Error argument?

There is no evidence that every split results in the creation of infinite timelines. Every scan explicitly shows otherwise.

This example actually explicitly shows that every single set of choices is infinite in numbers.

To explain it with the pear thingy, in your timeline you can pick from let’s say three fruits which gives you three probabilities. But in a parallel timeline you get to pick up from four fruits, in another parallel timeline it’s six fruits etc. In yet another parallel you get to pick a candy instead of fruit, and you can pick from four/five/six/etc. candies. A different parallel of yourself dislikes pears so they won’t pick a pear from eight offered fruits, and an another parallel of yourself is wearing a blue t-shirt while they decide to take none of five offered candies since all of them are lemon flavoured but your brother’s friend who offered them to you didn’t know you dislike sour things. And like this, you can extend probabilities infinitely. But to you, there are still only three basic options. You can pick none of offered fruits or pick more than one but that’s about it.

I.e. you can infinitely extend the outcome from a single situation of choosing between three fruits, even though just for you it is just apparently three choices. This means that there are infinite decisions for any given time.

So yeah, not sure about “every scan explicitly shows otherwise”.

This is not how the math works out. If you have finite splits across an infinite timeline, it'll always just be Aleph-0. [3 x 5 x 9 x 100000 x ........], will never be Aleph-1, even if it continues an infinite amount of times over.

There are uncountably infinite points in time, though? This is the very reason why timeline is Low 2-C and not just High 3-A in the first place. Each set of decisions would correspond to each point in time, creating uncountably infinite amount of timelines.

There is also no evidence that splits happen at every single point across the uncountably infinite points of the timeline

Even simple thing as Error just appearing in the timeline causes another such timeline to come into existence immediately. So it is fairly logical to assume that splits happen whenever there is some alternation possible at all.

Also what about the rest?

It does, though. Hence why I specifically linked Gravity Falls. I’m not sure if being sister wikia is of relevance, but I think there should be consistency with VS Battles Wikia. There, Dennis seeing entire world as a card yet having an anti-feat was a proof of his R>F being fake and thus only +1D. However, it showed that gap between lower and higher dimension is same as such “fake” R>F relationship, thus the difference being significant. This is how Bill Cipher went from “Low 1-C, possibly 1-B” to straight up “1-B”. Same logic applies here: it explicitly shows that the gap between higher and lower dimensions is same as “fake” R>F, which shows significant superiority/inferiority between the dimensions.

One thing I want to also note is that Omega Timeline being “hyperspace timeline” would pretty much make it a 5D spacetime, and it was shown to be infinite in size, which solidifies dimensions being significant as Omega Timeline is parallel to all of the AUs. All proof is in the blog under “Special Structures”.
(I should’ve probably added this into the blog itself)

Also sorry for constantly asking to check the blog instead of directly linking, but I’m currently on the phone and linking everything directly would be one hell of a thing to do. Besides the point of the blog is to give evidence anyways.

 

[Phoenks]

Not really. It makes perfect sense with higher time axis, no sense otherwise.

Disagree. if you are merged with the entire multiverse, accessing a timeline that "came to an end," seems completely plausible and absolutely does make sense.

If all past was destroyed and space-time of universe ended, Frisk wouldn’t be able to see it before it was destroyed.

Except they literally say that just because it was destroyed does not mean it didn't exist before. So I am not convinced that the "space-time of the universe ended" in such a way that the timeline as a whole completely vanished. Not to mention, given how the multiverse works in general, it's not like Frisk couldn't just... access a timeline where the events leading to its end didn't happen.

Also what about Error argument?

The argument doesn't make much sense to me.

For one, it says only chunks disappeared from that timeline. Not the entire timeline.

for two, it says that this is "a glitch." That doesn't sound like a reliably means of supporting your hyper-timeline argument.

I.e. you can infinitely extend the outcome from a single situation of choosing between three fruits, even though just for you it is just apparently three choices. This means that there are infinite decisions for any given time.

Uh, no, that's not what it says at all.

"To explain it with the pear thingy, in your timeline you can pick from let’s say three fruits which gives you three probabilities."

That's three choices in your timeline, so three possible branches.

"But in a parallel timeline you get to pick up from four fruits, in another parallel timeline it’s six fruits etc. In yet another parallel you get to pick a candy instead of fruit, and you can pick from four/five/six/etc. candies. A different parallel of yourself dislikes pears so they won’t pick a pear from eight offered fruits, and an another parallel of yourself is wearing a blue t-shirt while they decide to take none of five offered candies since all of them are lemon flavoured but your brother’s friend who offered them to you didn’t know you dislike sour things. And like this, you can extend probabilities infinitely."

This is referring to the options you'd have in parallel timelines. Not the amount of possible branches resulting from the options in your timeline.

But to you, there are still only three basic options. You can pick none of offered fruits or pick more than one but that’s about it. And it’s same for Frisk. They don’t have parallel selves (well they do… all Frisks are “a Frisk”) but there’s a single omnipresent CORE!Frisk

It even goes on to confirm that for YOU there is just the three options.

Also what about the rest?

1. The gap between 9D and 10D in your cosmology is very clearly not the same gap as those between the other dimensions, explicitly so. Every dimension in this verse as a different definition. The other dimensions were talking about branching timelines, some were talking about fan-fiction versions of other realities existing, and 10D is about the real world. To try and say that the gap between 10D and 9D is the same as between 6D and 7D seems incredibly obtuse to me, given the context.

2. Gravity Falls does not work as an example, as in that case, the gaps between dimensions were consistent, and the dimensions also provided context of each one being a spatial axis, with characters that were quantifiably "larger" and more complex than the ones below. In which case, things being seen as "fictional" from the perspective of the higher-dimension works as analogous supporting evidence for the size difference between them. Plus, it has aspects taken from scientific theories that involve legitimate spatial axes. Your cosmology blog doesn't do any such thing, which makes this a false equivalence.

3. I said it was a fake reality-fiction difference, but actually, come to think of it, it might not be. If there are no contradictions, then the "real world" (10D) could actually just be a real 1-A gap.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Even simple thing as Error just appearing in the timeline causes another such timeline to come into existence immediately. So it is fairly logical to assume that splits happen whenever there is some alternation possible at all.

Also, even if you still think that it is only tied to "decisions", i.e. concious sentient ones, here is a hardcore proof that there are splits in every point of time even despite that.

Timeline splits occur not only for every action in-verse but also CORE!Frisk's decision to manifest there. CORE!Frisk is literally omnipresent across time, thus they can decide to appear and disappear at any point of time, and thus each point of time would need a split for where CORE!Frisk appeared and the one where they didn't, at the very least.

(Since you responded before I added this, I'll answer to your respond as well)

Disagree. if you are merged with the entire multiverse, accessing a timeline that "came to an end," seems completely plausible and absolutely does make sense.

How can you go to the past that is destroyed?

Except they literally say that just because it was destroyed does not mean it didn't exist before. So I am not convinced that the "space-time of the universe ended" in such a way that the timeline as a whole completely vanished.

The question that DokuDoki was answering too was literally "Without them ever having existed in fact". So yes, it absolutely talks about the scenario where the entire timeline gets vanished with all of its past, future, and present.

Not to mention, given how the multiverse works in general, it's not like Frisk couldn't just... access a timeline where the events leading to its end didn't happen.

That cannot happen if timeline never existed in the first place.

For one, it says only chunks disappeared from that timeline.

It is a strange premonition that the chunks will be destroyed. It never said "only", you added that yourself. Error's destruction is compared to original Chara's and the fact that time would be destroyed as well.

for two, it says that this is "a glitch."

I'm not sure to what exactly are you referring to?

Uh, no, that's not what it says at all.

That's three choices in your timeline, so three possible branches.

This is referring to the options you'd have in parallel timelines. Not the amount of possible branches resulting from the options in your timeline.

It shows that for the point of time where you have three fruits, there was also a timeline where you ended up having 4, or 5, or 6-7, or 8, etc... i.e. what I am proving, each point of time has infinite probabilities of itself.

It even goes on to confirm that for YOU there is just the three options.

In a sense that it is from your perspective.

1. The gap between 9D and 10D in your cosmology is very clearly not the same gap as those between the other dimensions, explicitly so. Every dimension in this verse as a different definition. The other dimensions were talking about branching timelines, some were talking about fan-fiction versions of other realities existing, and 10D is about the real world. To try and say that the gap between 10D and 9D is the same as between 6D and 7D seems incredibly obtuse to me, given the context.

Then they wouldn't be granted same +1D relationship. GF's card thingy is also pretty exclusive to Dennis and never shown from perspective of other dimensional structures, yet it is still accepted. You can't just say "1D difference between 5D and 6D is different from 9D and 10D because I said so" just because they have different mechanics. They are still both assigned +1D difference. How they get it is not really relevant.

2. Gravity Falls does not work as an example, as in that case, the gaps between dimensions were consistent, and the dimensions also provided context of each one being a spatial axis, with characters that were quantifiably "larger" and more complex than the ones below. In which case, things being seen as "fictional" from the perspective of the higher-dimension works as analogous supporting evidence for the size difference between them.

How is being from real world is not quantifiably larger and more complex? Especially since real life characters are shown to be nearly omnipotent (here's full story)?

Plus, it has aspects taken from scientific theories that involve legitimate spatial axes. Your cosmology blog doesn't do any such thing, which makes this a false equivalence.

DokuDoki literally stated that they based off this theory article, which refers to legitimate spatial axises/dimensions as well as MWI, M-Theory and Quantum Mechanics. Lol.

3. I said it was a fake reality-fiction difference, but actually, come to think of it, it might not be. If there are no contradictions, then the "real world" (10D) could actually just be a real 1-A gap.

One of my friends told me that too when I showed him, but I'm not sure if we can override author's explicit labeling of it as dimensional axises being based of a theory with 10 spatial axises

 

[Phoenks]

You can't just say "1D difference between 5D and 6D is different from 9D and 10D because I said so" just because they have different mechanics.

I literally said it's because they have different definitions on the exact blog where they are explained. Saying that it's "because I said so" is completely ridiculous. The WoG said so, not me. I'm not the one that came up with these, frankly ridiculous, definitions of what the 6th, 7th, and 8th dimensions are. The 9th dimension of "all fiction ever" and 8th dimension of "gravity falls and my little pony" do not qualify as actual dimensions nor is it coherent whatsoever to say that because the 10th dimension is a R>F difference, it means every single other dimension follows the same traits. When in the very same blog, it does not make that out to EVER be the case. That is such a wild leap in logic that it completely takes me out of the conversation.

I'm sorry, but I disagree with all the arguments presented. I can't accept this as being genuinely higher-dimensional. Your interpretations go against the text in your own scans. This also isn't really supposed to be a thread for debating cosmologies, so I will stop here. If another staff wants to pick up where I left off, they can do so, but I'm not going to keep engaging with this.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Agree with phoenks

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Ig it's rejected then.
Ok.

 

[Comiphorous]

Submitting for review; Dusttale: Last Genocide Gaster, who scales to the undertale cosmology (Low 1-C)

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

This profile is too low on information. Tier 1 pages need to be much more in depth than this.

 

[Ebihara]

Sorry to interrupt. Went and checked the source material for that guy. Not sure too much that could be added to his profile unless you just want fluff for the sake of making it look Meatier. What more would you like for the charcter to be indexed ? Too low on what information, not seeing any obvious gaps in the profile.

 

[Comiphorous]

Sorry to interrupt. Went and checked the source material for that guy. Not sure too much that could be added to his profile unless you just want fluff for the sake of making it look Meatier. What more would you like for the charcter to be indexed ?

I will say ii completely forgot and mistakenly didn't add the justification to his genius intelligence, but otherwise i'm fairly certain his tier 1 rating (which is what i was mostly worried about) seems fairly straight forward and fine as it is now.

 

[Phoenks]

Just seems like normal FC that now scales to undertale so it's fine

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Here's my cosmology blog for IHasAFaceLulz

It should be considered for Low 1-C imo

 

[TheBoxofIncidents]

Submitting in behalf of myself, a FPE Oc with ratings of 1-B to High 1-B across two keys. (Not my character, obv)
Never done one of these before, but there's some strong evidence even if it seems eh, kinda wonky
Regardless, I've put a quality amount of time into it.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Submitting in behalf of myself, a FPE Oc with ratings of 1-B to High 1-B across two keys. (Not my character, obv)
Never done one of these before, but there's some strong evidence even if it seems eh, kinda wonky
Regardless, I've put a quality amount of time into it.

This is an OC? It needs to be accompanied by a cosmology blog.

 

[TheBoxofIncidents]

This is an OC? It needs to be accompanied by a cosmology blog.

Alrighty then,

 

[CCandfriends]

https://fcoc-vs-battles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:CCandfriends/Tim_Lore_Cosmology My first Cosmology page, Kind of nervous

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

https://fcoc-vs-battles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:CCandfriends/Tim_Lore_Cosmology My first Cosmology page, Kind of nervous

An immediate glance at this tells me that the verse in question is way too upfront about how something is specially five or six dimensional. I mean a character literally tells another one about how Tim’s world is made of 5 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal one. It’s way too on the nose, like it just wants to be tier 1 for the sake of it. The blog mentions infinite (and infinite of other infinite’s) more than it should. The explains of the 5D aspects feel ‘powerscaly’, for lack of a better term

Speaking of, it actually use 5D anyway. The blog specifically references ‘countably infinite’. You need uncountably infinite to go beyond 2-A.

Generally speaking I don’t think it matches quality standards as of current.

Maybe other staff think different, but I’m rejecting this for now.

 

[CCandfriends]

An immediate glance at this tells me that the verse in question is way too upfront about how something is specially five or six dimensional. I mean a character literally tells another one about how Tim’s world is made of 5 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal one. It’s way too on the nose, like it just wants to be tier 1 for the sake of it. The blog mentions infinite (and infinite of other infinite’s) more than it should. The explains of the 5D aspects feel ‘powerscaly’, for lack of a better term

Speaking of, it actually use 5D anyway. The blog specifically references ‘countably infinite’. You need uncountably infinite to go beyond 2-A.

Generally speaking I don’t think it matches quality standards as of current.

Maybe other staff think different, but I’m rejecting this for now.

yeah i really cant refute that.

 

[TheBoxofIncidents]

A cosmology blog by someone new.
Because they don't have a VSBW Forum Acc, I posted this of behalf of them.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

A cosmology blog by someone new.
Because they don't have a VSBW Forum Acc, I posted this of behalf of them.

I don't really understand the purpose of this blog, or if there is even an actual story it connects to. Is 'fandom' in this context supposed to be a verse term?? Is this a fanfiction verse or an original? I really don't know what I'm reading here

 

[O0DSF0o]

I would like to submit for Outerversal Friday Night Dustin' Cosmology/God Tiers (Or 1-A W. D. Gaster and 1-A Real World Player)

Tier 1-A Friday Night Funkin' is something I thought I would never say

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Was there not a rejected sans from this verse before

 

[O0DSF0o]

Was there not a rejected sans from this verse before

I had the idea of Low 1-C but I never submitted, just commented here about the idea

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

I would like to submit for Outerversal Friday Night Dustin' Cosmology/God Tiers (Or 1-A W. D. Gaster and 1-A Real World Player)

Tier 1-A Friday Night Funkin' is something I thought I would never say

I don’t believe I will be accepting this. I don’t understand why this UT/FNF fanfiction scales so much higher than the peaks of either verse.

I also don’t believe it is 1-A anyhow. The reasoning is shaky and relies upon the player being interpreted as you in real life. Most other stories and verses which have a ‘player’ and also ‘speak’ to said player do not treat them as outerversal, including undertale (and deltarune) itself. Everything I read just boils down to game mechanics.

Maybe other staff think differently. But personally I’m rejecting it.