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Tomura Shigaraki Vs Regulus Corneas (My Hero Academia Vs Re: Zero) [13-2-0]

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I think saying "the speed difference was already discussed" is dishonest when the basis of the conclusion on its role in the battle is the idea that Regulus cannot even react to Shigaraki, something that is categorically false, as proven after the fra train already happened.
 
I think saying "the speed difference was already discussed" is dishonest when the basis of the conclusion on its role in the battle is the idea that Regulus cannot even react to Shigaraki, something that is categorically false, as proven after the fra train already happened.
4 people are telling yall that the arguments that yall presented are the exact same ones that were already argued and didnt change their votes. The 2 people that countered the original arguments came back to argue with yalls arguments, they still didnt change their votes. Even after the argument that you guys presented that were already argued, Shigaraki still gained votes.


Either way this matchup would need to be redone
For what
 

relevant thread to what arknsalter just said.
 
Audit of the Shigaraki Vs Regulus votes:
@Ebihara confirms arguments made by Regulus' supporters were already argued several hours ago and confirmed to not change votes
@TsukasayaEmmaDCD confirms arguments made by Regulus' supporters were already argued several hours ago and confirmed to not change votes
@CastoriceTheFifth confirms arguments made by Regulus' supporters were already argued several hours ago and confirmed to not change votes
@Robo432343 confirms arguments made by Regulus' supporters were already argued several hours ago and confirmed to not change votes
@RinneItachi Made the counter arguments against Regulus from when the thread is still early and after Regulus supporters said their case. Did not change votes
@Catbowtie Made the counter arguments against Regulus from when the thread is still and and still argued against Regulus leading up to grace and days after. Did not change votes
@Arkansalter2 Reconfirmed his votes for Shigaraki after grace
@Mapl3Sy4up Voted for shigaraki several hours after more Regulus supporters argued his case
 
I see, what's the issue here? The wincons?
That no one made an argument for Regulus and the fra trained started even though me and @MrTayman616 already argued what they argued and that multiple people were countering those arguments.

Audit of the Shigaraki Vs Regulus votes:
@Ebihara confirms arguments made by Regulus' supporters were already argued several hours ago and confirmed to not change votes
@TsukasayaEmmaDCD confirms arguments made by Regulus' supporters were already argued several hours ago and confirmed to not change votes
@CastoriceTheFifth confirms arguments made by Regulus' supporters were already argued several hours ago and confirmed to not change votes
@Robo432343 confirms arguments made by Regulus' supporters were already argued several hours ago and confirmed to not change votes
@RinneItachi Made the counter arguments against Regulus from when the thread is still early and after Regulus supporters said their case. Did not change votes
@Catbowtie Made the counter arguments against Regulus from when the thread is still and and still argued against Regulus leading up to grace and days after. Did not change votes
@Arkansalter2 Reconfirmed his votes for Shigaraki after grace
@Mapl3Sy4up Voted for shigaraki several hours after more Regulus supporters argued his case
You can see here
 
That no one made an argument for Regulus and the fra trained started even though me and @MrTayman616 already argued what they argued and that multiple people were countering those arguments.


You can see here
Imo, the counter arguements didn't get refuted properly and as @VortechsTG said above, it did be dishonest to say so especially when the discussion on his speed was ongoing till literally the last page
 
Can't wait to hear what Shigaraki will do when Regulus FTL rams to his general location and swipes his hand, pulling a garkla and destroying everything in his general direction almost definitely taking out him in the first attack itself


If Shigaraki somehow survives that still don't change much cuz Regulus can spam his attacks and it would take him quite a while to get to all the wives


Why would Regulus be motivated to kill him right off the bat? Because the phuqtard is instantly going to try and kill his wives which will get Regular Cornyass to be serious and actually try to end things fast



Why wouldn't Shigaraki just dodg-

HE CAN WIPE OUT A CITY WITH A CASUAL FLICK OF HIS WRIST

He is very much under his range no matter where he goes
This is complete bunk

Mr. "I can jump several kilometers from the bottom of the ocean to the height of clouds" ain't getting caught in TOWN LEVEL Danmaku. That's honestly a mid tier feat in MHA. Start of Series Todoroki was already pulling out Large City Level attacks with hundreds of meters of range with regular attacks. Endeavor Agency Bakugo is shooting out 5.5 kilometer explosions and moving at Hypersonic+ travel speeds with his Quirk. War Series Endeavor was getting pieced up by an objectively inferior Shigaraki, with Endeavor using Danmaku and being a proficient flight user, all to no avail. Shigaraki, as mobile and fast as he is, is not going to struggle with avoiding getting danmaku'd on a city wide scale.

Also, uh, how is Regulus supposed to find Shigaraki?

Like no, seriously, Shigaraki starts with a Decay. This is what a vastly inferior Decay looked like and it generated a smoke cloud to obscure the surrounding area. From Regulus' POV, it just looks like an earthquake is happening vaguely from Shigaraki's location (as per SBA) and legitimately would not know what is going on. I was being considerate in my initial scenario of Shigaraki deciding to close the gap to fight Regulus, but Shigaraki can genuinely just leave the area. He has no reason to think that Regulus would survive the Decay wave when he's 4km away. Regulus has no Extrasensory Perception, can't see Shigaraki because of the smoke, and would not know where Shigaraki is going or will go. Regulus doesn't even know what the **** Japan, Tokyo, IS. He'll be completely lost walking around trying to find a dude that's 30 kilometers away killing his wives.

Did I mention Shiggy's travel speed? Shigaraki is moving at Mach 10, which means his travel speed is MOVING FASTER THAN WHAT REGULUS CAN SEE.
Speed: Average Human (He is a normal person with no combat training)
34.3 - 171.50.1-0.51.14412e-5% - 5.720624e-5%123.48 - 617.476.7269 - 383.635

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Subsonic (Faster than the Eye)
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Mach 10 is moving at 7672.69 miles per hour. And if y'all don't want to accept WoG Mach 10 Shigaraki, we can just do a basic upscale via Deku moving at Mach 1.44. Also I could've sworn that Shigaraki's profile had "was stated of moving 200 kilometers in an instant" somewhere, but it was probably removed.
It was discussed that a Shigi who is slower than Regulus would blitz him and kill all his wives and Regulus wouldn't do anything to fight back. Despite the fact Regulus is faster and would attempt to kill him instantly if he realized Shigi was trying to kill his wives. They didn't even mention his AOE attacks at all.
If Regulus uses Authority, the speed gap will be 1.7x bro. Regulus ain't blitzing anything. I responded to AOE already so I won't again.
I think saying "the speed difference was already discussed" is dishonest when the basis of the conclusion on its role in the battle is the idea that Regulus cannot even react to Shigaraki, something that is categorically false, as proven after the fra train already happened.
This is cap.

Regulus' profile literally says he is just average human level without Authority. If we want to humor that Regulus can react to FTL speeds (which isn't supported by the profile, so shouldn't be used, but whatever), at best Regulus gets Reaction Speed, Perception Speeds at worst. Neither change anything because Shigaraki dodges Regulus pointing his hand at him (even if Shigaraki doesn't know what Regulus can do, Shigaraki is still experienced enough to know that if someone points their hand at him, they're probably trying to shoot something at him). So now Regulus knows he's getting blitzed by Shigaraki.

Either way this matchup would need to be redone
The result is just going to be the same. God forbid if Rusty comes in here and gives encyclopedic knowledge of what Shigaraki will do. I said all of the above just going off general knowledge of MHA and reading profiles. The power of reading comprehension. I know, I know. Jujutsu Kaisen hasn't ruined my brain just yet.

Like I said before, best bet Regulus has is trying to find any of his wives and grouping them up instead of trying to catch up to Mach 10 Perception Blitzing Travel Speed Shigaraki. Regulus' biggest advantage is that Shigaraki has no idea that Regulus can just throw pocket sand and obliterate him without a trace. I can see Shigaraki underestimating Regulus after blitzing him for the 12th time and getting matter manip dura negged.

Anyways, all of the points still remain and the votes should remain. I am not kidding when I say this, but there legit has been NO MEANINGFUL information given since I talked about the fight a few posts ago. I looked, I really did. I don't see anything Re;Zero supporters are bringing up that can't be answered by "Shigaraki blitzes"

Don't make a rematch, I'll just copy and paste this entire comment there and Regulus will be FRA trained there too.
 
The traveling 200 kilometers in an instant is cooked in the og calc. Deku when he already travelled most of the distance still takes longer than the original hypothetical 5 seconds for the full 200 km.


Shigaraki Combat and attack speed should be around Regulus' own combat speed realistically. 62% SOL originated from incomplete shigaraki vs SNS. He upscales from it.
 
Shigaraki was undisputedly the strongest person in the verse. I'm pretty certain there could be a scaling chain for Shigaraki's speed.
 
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