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Tomura Shigaraki Vs Regulus Corneas (My Hero Academia Vs Re: Zero) [13-2-0]

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RinneItachi said:
Tappei has no way to really properly convey Reinhard not just curbstomping someone but also needs to make Regulus look like the menacing threat he is so it requires a lot of forced plot stuff to happen. Plus, Subaru doing literally anything in that battle doesn't technically make any sense but the narrative doesn't care.
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Subaru is simply Reinhard level. He out reacted Reinhard against Elsa fr fr
 
RinneItachi said:
Tappei has no way to really properly convey Reinhard not just curbstomping someone but also needs to make Regulus look like the menacing threat he is so it requires a lot of forced plot stuff to happen. Plus, Subaru doing literally anything in that battle doesn't technically make any sense but the narrative doesn't care.
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No, what Subaru did makes perfect sense. It's just this that doesn't.
 
VortechsTG said:
It's just this that doesn't.
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What glaring mistake did Reinhard make here?
A noxious sense of oppression came, casting an illusion that had Subaru feeling as if the sun had been blotted out. The air hung thick with pollution. He would be hard pressed to find words with which to express this discomfort, this disgust. The disgust of the peeling of a scab, the discomfort of a stench exhaled to the face, the aversion of a sticky tongue over bare skin.

The origin of this turbid air, was the evil which had turned his head to look back.
The instant that he met its gaze, Subaru’s body began to tremble involuntarily. Expressionless and empty, those eyes, like a curse, plunged deep into his soul. As if pierced by a rusted needle, even his lungs and heart were frozen by terror. However, even as Subaru found himself immobile, overcome by such feelings—―

Reinhard: “Do not look anywhere unnecessary. Your opponent should be me!”

Turning to regard Subaru, meant turning his back to the Sword Saint. Raising his hands high, Reinhard had clasped in his hands what could only be described as broken signposts and scrap metal. Such materials which were only ever destined to be waste, but in Reinhard’s hands, they were no inferior to a treasured blade.

A long blade slanted through the air struck the back of Regulus’s suit. The bursting shockwave expanded in midair, leaving a sorrowful wail from the assailed atmosphere in its wake, raising vortexes in the large canals where thin sheets of ice floated. This was the aftermath of that sword’s strike. Had the force of evil been shattered to pieces, it would have come as no surprise. However, before he could take a single step.

Regulus: “Don’t get me wrong, Sword Saint. I’ve been entertaining you because my heart is obliging and considerate. But even my gracious self has limits.”

Reinhard: “————”


Lightly, Regulus patted the place where he had been struck by the sword, and tilted his head. Reinhard, alerted by this motion, tossed aside the scraps in his hands and made to leap backward at a wide angle―— just as he prepared to jump, his feet froze in place.

Reinhard’s superhuman intuition.

It informed him of dire, imminent threats to his self, and preemptively detecting incoming attacks. His keen instincts told him that he could not dodge to the rear. He immediately straightened and began to search for alternative routes.

Regulus: “The air there, it has already been touched by me.”

Due to the sharpening of his senses locking him into place, at that moment, Reinhard had been left unprepared. His opponent had him trapped in an invisible yet present envelope. Reinhard’s judgment told him to slip by the force of evil’s side, but, in order to do so, he would be forced to make a defensive strike.

Reinhard: “Haa!”

The blow that he dealt had enough force to shear through stone. The hilt of the Dragon Sword pierced into Regulus’s chest, but the force of evil grasped it easily.

Regulus: “Futile effort, thanks for your trouble. Just pray that you won’t be hurt too badly.”

Reinhard: “Just as Subaru said, your heart doesn’t seem to be beating.” –A City of Strife
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Zabazab said:
What glaring mistake did Reinhard make here?
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He stands there next to Regulus for an extended period of time despite knowing he can **** him up at close range. Unless you argue Regulus did react to him and respond immediately this is what allowed Regulus to throw him into space.
 
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Actually, even though the actual trap for Reinhard wasn't a result of Regulus reacting to him he did react to Reinhard hitting him 😭 I guess I overlooked that earlier
“I’m afraid I must insist you refrain from looking away. Your opponent is me.”
Of course, focusing on Subaru meant showing his back to the Sword Saint.
Regulus had just enough time to turn his head as Reinhard’s Dragon Sword bellowed. The white sheath struck the back of his head with the sound of the level of violence normally too cruel to be directed at any individual. It sounded like a cannonball crashing into a fortress, and the impact forced the water in the canal away from Regulus. - Vol 19 ch 3
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VortechsTG said:
No, what Subaru did makes perfect sense. It's just this that doesn't.
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Regulus was casual but still trying to kill Subaru. Regulus can wipe out cities and move at light speed. Subaru is a very athletic normal human. That does not make sense. Especially with what happened in their first encounter.
 
RinneItachi said:
Regulus was casual but still trying to kill Subaru. Regulus can wipe out cities and move at light speed. Subaru is a very athletic normal human. That does not make sense. Especially with what happened in their first encounter.
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No, Regulus was not trying to kill Subaru. I have no idea where you got that idea, because there is an entire lengthy exposition dump about him not trying to kill Subaru.
“Facing off”, saying so seemed a touch inaccurate. Since Subaru was just trying to hide himself, he maintained his taunting demeanor, striving merely to buy time.
If Regulus noticed this, and attacked so destructively as to rend that entire section of the city from top to bottom, Subaru’s plans would be shattered in an instant. However, Subaru was sure that Regulus would never do so.
In this short period of time, with the hostile nature of their interactions, he had very accurately gauged Regulus’s character.
In short, Regulus was scum.
This simple statement could in no way explain all of Regulus’s problems, however. More precisely, Regulus was someone who put his own sense of values above all others’, and would certainly never be capable of ignoring the existence of others.
To be frank, calling him the incarnation of desire for approval and desire to show off would be the simplest way to put it.
Claiming that he possessed no desires and no demands with sophisticated words, treating his existence as one that had already achieved perfection, Regulus seemed unable to continue living without proclaiming his own value to others.
Repressing the feelings of others, imposing his own values onto them, using intimidation and violence to forcefully instate himself as supreme. This attitude was not how he treated just his brides, but how he treated the entire world.
Therefore, that was why Regulus attempted to meet everyone with his own kind of straightforward honesty. His battle of offense and defense against Reinhard served as perfect proof.
If Regulus was capable and willing of doing so, he could have completely invalidated Reinhard’s attacks with his Invincibility, and gone on to kill the somewhat-troublesome Subaru and Emilia. Despite this, he had been deliberately eager to accept Reinhard’s attacks directly, and thus was unable to put this acute plan into action.
Although, this was not to say that Regulus valued nobleness of spirit. Rather, this decidedly further proved the nature that he had supposedly cast aside.
——This man, Regulus, was a man who could not help but force everything around him to yield, by use of his Authority.
Therefore, he did not crush the meddlesome Reinhard nor ignored Subaru’s provocations. Those were not decisions he could make in battle.
Assured by the premise that he could be neither injured or defeated, he needed to force his opponents into complete surrender, leaving their spirits defeated and broken—— a man who knew only this way of battle.
Such a repulsive nature was truly unsightly to behold.
The reason behind this judgement was that everyone, with no exception, would to some extent hold the same feelings. Assuredly so. Even Subaru himself was aware of such ugliness in his own nature. Precisely because he forced people to gaze into this ugliness, was why the existence of Regulus was so hateful.
However, this exact reason was what allowed a faint glimpse at a tiny chance of victory. - Ch 56
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Can't wait to hear what Shigaraki will do when Regulus FTL rams to his general location and swipes his hand, pulling a garkla and destroying everything in his general direction almost definitely taking out him in the first attack itself


If Shigaraki somehow survives that still don't change much cuz Regulus can spam his attacks and it would take him quite a while to get to all the wives


Why would Regulus be motivated to kill him right off the bat? Because the phuqtard is instantly going to try and kill his wives which will get Regular Cornyass to be serious and actually try to end things fast



Why wouldn't Shigaraki just dodg-

HE CAN WIPE OUT A CITY WITH A CASUAL FLICK OF HIS WRIST

He is very much under his range no matter where he goes
 
VortechsTG said:
Actually, even though the actual trap for Reinhard wasn't a result of Regulus reacting to him he did react to Reinhard hitting him 😭 I guess I overlooked that earlier
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Oh if you just wanted a moment like that, then there's
The Sword Saint would not show him any trace of tolerance, as someone who defiled the sacred duel, the very definition of a warrior.

The opening blow came from below Regulus’s underarm, vertically slashing across his body—— Regulus had not even the chance to cry out before being slammed far into the sky.

Regulus: “——Hk.”

Before his eyes was the demolished City of Water—— he had been sent flying to the sky, to an altitude such that he had a panoramic view of the entire city.

Whether a cry or a curse, a scream incomprehensible to all who heard it echoed.

Higher, higher, along with the wind, Regulus’s body flew into the night sky.

The instant that his underarm had been struck, Regulus had activated Lion’s Heart, and stopped his heartbeat to enter a state of invincibility. As a result, though the damage from the blow had been counteracted——

Regulus: “Kuh, ku—— Hk.”

Regulus panted, groaning as his vision blurred with pain. –Regulus Corneas
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Regulus: “Damned, monster…!”

Reinhard: “Indeed. I am a monster who hunts monsters—— For you too, the time to accept fate has come.”

Reinhard’s feet left his back.

As soon as the sound of his voice fell, Regulus felt fighting spirit. In the course of his life, although he had repeatedly faced strong opponents, Regulus had learned nothing whatsoever.

He was that sort of man, he had greeted those powerful opponents who had come forth to confront him with a yawn, and so it had not remained in his conscious memory. Relying on this memory, Regulus attempted to react.

——Lion’s Heart was activated, in the same instant that an attack arrived.

Regulus: “Aaaaah!!!”

Toward the center of Regulus’s back, Reinhard swung his hand like a blade.

Regulus received an attack even sharper than that of a famous blade, but he took the impact with his invincibility, and was slammed downward in one motion. –Regulus Corneas
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Like, does this not blatantly show that the premise that Regulus would not even be able to percieve Shigaraki is complete bullshit?
 
TsukasayaEmmaDCD said:
It was already discussed before the frad train happened
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It was discussed that a Shigi who is slower than Regulus would blitz him and kill all his wives and Regulus wouldn't do anything to fight back. Despite the fact Regulus is faster and would attempt to kill him instantly if he realized Shigi was trying to kill his wives. They didn't even mention his AOE attacks at all.
 
JetJZ said:
It was discussed that a Shigi who is slower than Regulus would blitz him and kill all his wives and Regulus wouldn't do anything to fight back. Despite the fact Regulus is faster and would attempt to kill him instantly if he realized Shigi was trying to kill his wives. They didn't even mention his AOE attacks at all.
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CastoriceTheFifth said:
Danger sense relies on hostile intentions. Theres a CRT accepted that was talking about how danger sense didnt activate when AFO detonated a bomb.

Its listed as FTL because Reinhard is FTL

TBF it says come right back. I dont see why it wouldnt be comparable to the speed of when Reinhard came back from the moon.

I have zero idea how he is not fast or skilled enough to tag Shiggy when he has tagged Reinhard 4 times.
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CastoriceTheFifth said:
Oh man imagine if Shigaraki flys over any body of water

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I mean
 
Ebihara said:
I dont think you read the thread in its entirety.
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I did, I made my first account because of it. The main argument for Shigi is that because he is Rel+ he can kill all the wives fast enough, but that just isn't true otherwise the whole climax fight of MHA makes zero sense. Can you point out what I am missing since you seem to think that I haven't read the thread?
 
JetJZ said:
I did, I made my first account because of it. The main argument for Shigi is that because he is Rel+ he can kill all the wives fast enough, but that just isn't true otherwise the whole climax fight of MHA makes zero sense. Can you point out what I am missing since you seem to think that I haven't read the thread?
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Uh
CastoriceTheFifth said:
No one in MHA has relativistic travel speed. If this was the case then Deku wouldve easily traveled 200 kilometers without Faux 100%
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CastoriceTheFifth said:
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I know you pointed it out but people were still using it afterwards, and the reason I brought it up was because it is the ONLY way people state of how Shigi would beat Regulus. Since you yourself pointed it out as false this result shouldn't make sense to you as well.
 
Catbowtie said:
It can’t be.

Reinhard being faster doesn’t mean anything because he isn’t blitzing Regulus.

If Reinhard was blitz levels of fast and Regulus still hit Reinhard, that would mean either:
  1. Regulus scales to Reinhard’s speed (at best reaction speed) and skill
  2. The speed wasn’t actually blitz levels (meaning Reinhard wasn’t using his full speed)
  3. A personal failure on Reinhard’s end caused him to get hit
  4. An outlier or inconsistency in the story
Saying Regulus can react to a blitz is an oxymoron. Re;Zero fans are trying to have their cake and eat it too. Either Reinhard wasn’t using his full speed or Regulus scales to Reinhard’s full speed and scales to his skill. And no, I’m not about to go in the slop that is Re;Zero skill. Regulus wouldn’t scale anyways.

Speed is unequal. The speed gap between Regulus with Authority and Shigaraki’s speed is 1.8x (rounded up)

Regulus would have to guess where Shigaraki is moving considering that in an urban environment there’s going to be buildings and skyscrapers for Regulus to easily lose track of Shigaraki. With no extrasensory perception to speak off…yea Regulus ain’t finding yet alone hitting Shigaraki anytime soon.

Also Shigaraki aim dodges with AnaPre.

The best chance Regulus has to win is to cut his losses, try to find the wives Shigaraki isn’t after, group them up, and guard them with his life.
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@Ebihara Tbf Regulus' own speed was also argued during the grace countdown
 
Ebihara said:
I think the matchup is fair and should stay. BUT if they think it should be removed then thats the place to do it.
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The thread you gave them only accounts for stomps or outdated matchups pretty sure. There was a staff discussion rule that was proposed that was aimed towards tackling this by extending grace time but got rejected (even though the current match doesnt reflect the conditions unironically)
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
The thread you gave them only accounts for stomps or outdated matchups pretty sure. There was a staff discussion rule that was proposed that was aimed towards tackling this by extending grace time but got rejected (even though the current match doesnt reflect the conditions unironically)
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Oops, should I remove it then? Sorry not used to this website.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
The thread you gave them only accounts for stomps or outdated matchups pretty sure. There was a staff discussion rule that was proposed that was aimed towards tackling this by extending grace time but got rejected (even though the current match doesnt reflect the conditions unironically)
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You can request it get removed for pretty much any reason, Ive seen stuff get removed for FRA trains ignoring stuff. AGAIN I do not think this is such the case. and if it is the wrong place or they are wrong then no harm no foul.
 
JetJZ said:
Oops, should I remove it then? Sorry not used to this website.
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Idk. Heres a staff discussion thread that is very similar to your issue but it got rejected though https://vsbattles.com/threads/vs-battles-wiki-culture-complaint-question.179640/#post-7095928

Ebihara said:
You can request it get removed for pretty much any reason, Ive seen stuff get removed for FRA trains ignoring stuff. AGAIN I do not think this is such the case. and if it is the wrong place or they are wrong then no harm no foul.
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This matchup shouldn't be the case either since my and @MrTayman616 arguments regarding Regulus' AOE and Speed were being countered and argued by @RinneItachi and @Catbowtie like several hours before more Regulus supporters came. Even after Regulus supporters made their claim, 2 people who voted for shigaraki came back and said that they werent going to change their votes because their arguments were pretty much mine and @MrTayman616 arguments from very early in the thread.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
This matchup shouldn't be the case either since my and @MrTayman616 arguments regarding Regulus' AOE and Speed were being countered and argued by @RinneItachi and @Catbowtie like several hours before more Regulus supporters came. Even after Regulus supporters made their claim, 2 people who voted for shigaraki came back and said that they werent going to change their votes because their arguments were pretty much mine and @MrTayman616 arguments from very early in the thread.
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Again. I DISAGREE WITH THEM. but if they want it removed arugring here isnt going to do anything. You dont need to convince me. I voted for shiki!!!
 
Ebihara said:
Again. I DISAGREE WITH THEM. but if they want it removed arugring here isnt going to do anything. You dont need to convince me. I voted for shiki!!!
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funny thing is the re zero discussion was aware of this matchup but they dismissed it because it was a Regulus match lol

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Also wtf that implies that current Reinhard can kill Pandora No the fụck it does not 😭
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Is there a saitama key we could use or somthing? make the most insufferable matchup of all time. regulus supporters versus saitama supporters.
 
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