Oliver_de_jesus
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Darksied cannot killed permanently because it's part of the cosmic balance by the Source's words
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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier
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Still don't see it on his profile, and I thought that his immortality just came from his God Head.
This.
And Sonic could definitely incap with stuff like Type 2 Info hax (which Darkseid doesn't resist).
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But he can incap him with stuff like type 2 info manipulation.
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He would resurrect from that due to higher dimensional source bs
Oliver_de_jesus
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Yes, although honestly, all the inhabitants of TSoG should have Info Hax or AE based on it, since they manipulate their realms that exists beyond the Speed Force Wall(the barrier is not the speed force), as matter is pure information
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TD only makes him immune to the stuff he transcends i dont see any information stuff in pokemon, and his Nep doesnt cover Information, also what about 7D range?
7D Bfr?
Oliver_de_jesus
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Honestly Darksied just needs to exist and occasionally do his job, but nothing stops him from being incapacitated. Hell, canonically we have an arc in the Post-Crisis where Darksied was incapacitated for weeks, which led to internal wars in his Empire (all caused by my boi Neron)
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Neron>darkseid fr
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Where are you getting 7-D from???
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The Sonic 6D thread has it in its op when talking about who scales
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I thought only solaris has 7-D stuff
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Super forms can reach his 7D HDE so they have the range
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When I finish revising Oma Zi-O they're getting slammed into #11.
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You need proof sonic can interact with nonexistent beings in the first place
We can’t just assume sonic can interact with NEP beings like arceus when he has no feats of doing so
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That part of his existence is still in existence
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1. Isn't NEP only immune from physical stuff due to incorporeality?
2. If not then Sonic can still hurt him with Info Manip since he lacks aspect 4 of NEP.
Noted.
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What does this mean
Arceus lacks aspect 4 but sonic doesn’t even have NEP interaction in the first place
Interacting with incorporeality doesn’t mean you can interact with arceus’ level of NEP
Also I’m pretty sure arceus’ NEP is greater than giratina’s
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The NEP page states that all users must be Incorporeal, which I assume is what protects them from physical blows.
The aspects are stated to just protect them from one thing, such as soul manip, mind manip, concept manip, or info manip
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What information are you going to be affecting? The information of it's body which it doesn't have. The information of it's mind which is nonexistent. The information of its soul, also nonexistent. The information of it's concept, again nonexistent. The information of it's dimensions, it's beyond dimensions. What other essential component does Arceus have that Sonic can target the information of?
It's easy to say that it lacks information resistance and so you can affect it's information, but you've also got to explain what exactly the information is about. Information is a metaphysical property that describes something giving it shape, but if their is nothing to describe the shape of then their won't be information to affect.
It's easy to say that it lacks information resistance and so you can affect it's information, but you've also got to explain what exactly the information is about. Information is a metaphysical property that describes something giving it shape, but if their is nothing to describe the shape of then their won't be information to affect.
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I'm just following the listed stuff.
You need Aspect 4 of NEP to be immune to type 2 info, which Arceus does not appear to have.
Even if Sonic can't harm Arceus, Arceus can't harm him so it's incon. Thus, they share a spot.
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Isnt Information more Fundemental then the Mind/Soul/Body, aswell as Sonic having Abstract layers, wouldnt him affecting Arceus' Information itself do something?
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In 7-B, Es should be moved back up to number 1 since Dante's hax and resistances have been downgraded to 4D while all of Es's are 5D as far as I know.
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removing xenobale characters from Low 1C, their hax layers got downgraded
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Why is EBF listed twice in the High 5-A section? Remove the one at the bottom.
Also, the Warhammer 40K characters are no longer 4-A, so they should be removed.
Also, the Warhammer 40K characters are no longer 4-A, so they should be removed.
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Eh, they still have 6D AP, plus causality/fate hax that works on both Acausality 2 and 4 and high-godly along with high0godly negation, so I feel that they should at least be #9.
#10-11 bare minimum, Darkseid gets obliterated by Xenoblade hax-wise.
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okay 11th spot for now for them
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is Xue Ying above Arceus, Makina and Xenoblade characters because of extreme piercing?
i cant think of any other reason
i cant think of any other reason
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Pmmm should be removed from 2-A. Kosane Kiriha is already low 1-c, while Madoka Kaname (the supreme god), Homura Akemi (the demon opposed to God), Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen (the combination of all cosmic despair), Tart (beyond the concepts of hope and despair). In the grand finale, Kosane Kiriha is overwhelmed by the despair brought by her and her sister, so she is not as good as Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen and Tart
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Btw:
Characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (Main Continuity) (Sonic, Solaris, and The End) should share a #11 spot with Xenoblade for now.
You got Solaris, who has to be killed across all of time at once to kill him.
You have Starfall Super Sonic, who has passive cyber corruption, along with a lot of other hax.
You have THE END, who has law/fate hax.
They can't defeat XB people but it goes vice versa, neither can really incap the other.
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you should probably make a match for this
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no match was made and xue inconed makina last time
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Then shouldn't Xue be in the same spot as Makina?
Also, could you please put Sonic on the Low 1-C list?
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what spot for sonic? Make a match for it
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Btw Makina’s layers never went through the hax layer thread so they are unuseable
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Once again, anima gate and dmc characters should be placed in the 5th and 6th spots in 2c, as I've already explained why.
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anima inconed tohou characters, make a match with saber and dmc guys for 6th spot
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On second thought, for now they should be at #12, since they wallop Darkseid in terms of hax but I'd need to do a Sonic vs XB fight.
G33kedzinx
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Yeah, so then place them(Baal and the nameless) beside touhou characters and a stomp match doesn’t need to be made, the outcome is quite obvious: he’s not resisting 7 layers of passive madness hax.
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If you can only characters that are physically in X tier, why, for example, is HIM here?
He is physically tier 6.
I don't even know if Megamen would be there since it looks like it's through a combination of attacks.
