Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 29: The Last of the Forum

[Firephoenixearl]

Cus Ban's keys are divided by the form he's using....wait. Yeah really need to fix his tier. He would gain a high 7-A tier (Divine Design), but he should lose his 9-B. Will fix that in the next CRT. Akabane is the only one who has had his logic manip throughout the whole series.

Also the logic is not true logic by our standards. It's more like...information or data manip.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

@The Wright Way If 2-A Caliborn has 1-A passive plothax, he'll definitely take #2.

 

[Dashio_Tessai]

Also, Shadow Mind could ibcon Rei Ogami so they should share a spot, the verse has others that can probably incon him, so just put characters from Shadow Fight (Verse).

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Satan (Composite Devilman) is in red.

 

[Everything12]

If theirs now a spot open in 5-B then I believe D (Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka?) was in 6th place for 5-B.

 

[NeoZex6399]

How about Dusknoir for some 7-A spot? It seems a little overlooked.

 

[DontTalkDT]

If theirs now a spot open in 5-B then I believe D (Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka?) was in 6th place for 5-B.

In fact, she was technically above the To Aru guys. They slipped in there without the match.

I'm just too lazy to do all those matches to get D ranked above them right now.

How about Dusknoir for some 7-A spot? It seems a little overlooked.

Vandalieu wins by doing absolutely nothing. (passive mind control)

 

[Uniasha]

High 3A for Sun Wu Kong(myth)

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

@The Wright Way If 2-A Caliborn has 1-A passive plothax, he'll definitely take #2.

Throw him at Oryx and PMMM

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

High 3A for Sun Wu Kong(myth)

His current profile is a hard no

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

He's gaining conceptual **** soon

 

[Zaratthustra]

7-A is already a battle royale of around 20 characters.

 

[Planck69]

High 3A for Sun Wu Kong(myth)

He gets shit-stomped and no, we're not using an unevaluated blog for his statistics.

 

[Uniasha]

High 3A for Sun Wu Kong(myth)

He gets shit-stomped and no, we're not using an unevaluated blog for his statistics.

oof that's a bummer

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Throw him at Oryx and PMMM

Neither of them can do anything against the plot hax or stop Caliborn from becoming LE

Actually... now that I think about it Taking may do something due to its nature but that's unlikely

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Neither of them can do anything against the plot hax or stop Caliborn from becoming LE

Him becoming Lord English would disqualify him by default since he is no longer 2-A.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Not really, he is a 2-A who becomes a 1-A, that would be allowed since it's due to his hax

 

[YungManzi]

I could have sworn earning a spot via going from one key to the next was banned a while ago.

Like, if dragon ball characters were strong enough to be here, you wouldn't give base goku a spot via becoming mecha uber ultra invisible haired 1-A saiyan.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

The thing is, he requires to become 1-A to take the spot 2-A. Unless his plot hax can do something else other than transforming him into 1-A, he has no place in 2-A.

 

[Everything12]

It's also Passive 1-A Plot and Causality Hax that makes everything go in Caliborn's favour and ensures he will one day become Lord English.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Just make Oryx vs cal born already

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Guys, here's an explanation of Caliborn's passive hax. It can do more than just transform him into a 1-A.

https://fictionnal-battle.fandom.co...Retcon_Powers,_and_others_things_(explained!)

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Would it even work on a type 5 acasual

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Isn't that type soley for 1-As?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Isn't that type soley for 1-As?

Nope

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Well, in that case, does type 5 include protections from Fate and Plot Manipulation?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

By definition type 5 blocks fate manip

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Oryx is type 5 BTW

 

[The_Wright_Way]

And Plot Manipulation?

Also, how does the potency of said hax interact with Acasualty?

 

[Everything12]

Pretty sure Acausality Type 5 on a 4D/5D level doesn't protect from 1-A level of Fate

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

TBF, arent 1-A supposed to be type 5 acasual by default

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Just make Oryx VS Caliborn

Or Caliborn vs homura

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

By definition type 5 blocks fate manip

I actually had the same question in mind.

 

[Everything12]

Yeah but I really doubt the Acausality 5 of a Dimensional being is preventing 1-A levels of Fate from controlling them, the difference between the two powers is just too big as they work on entirely different levels.

 

[YungManzi]

I mean, I would think you would still need a feat of affecting them with fate hax.

In the same way that even with 1-A death hax you would still need a feat of it working on type 1 abstracts.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I feel like that's different though.

Like, just because you exist outside of 5-D causality doesn't mean you exist outside 1-A causality.

Abstracts, meanwhile, are ideas. They really can't be affected by traditional death manipulation.

Also, no one answered my question on plot manipulation.

 

[Everything12]

Plot hax is one of the ways you can use to affect Acausality 5 if I remember correctly, because the narrative doesn't care about using Cause and Effect to work.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

acausality 5 vs plot hax

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Plot manip is a bit of an NLF

 

[XDragnoir]

I could have sworn earning a spot via going from one key to the next was banned a while ago.

Like, if dragon ball characters were strong enough to be here, you wouldn't give base goku a spot via becoming mecha uber ultra invisible haired 1-A saiyan.

The OP has 3 rules and none of them talks about transformations not being allowed.