Trapinch vs Combined Human

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Speed Equalized, Victory by any means, Small Town level+ stats are used, Trapinch is wild and has no trainer, TM moves, or Egg moves, via verse equalization, I'd suppose CH is Normal type

Round 1: Trapinch vs Combined Human, CH has weapons

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

Round 1: Trapinch because he got big jaws and could bite combined humans hand off.

round 2: combined human could smack vibrava or stomp him because vibrava is 5 times the size of a bug

round 3 combined human if he wears safety goggles and throw ice at flygon

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Round 1: Assuming CH even lets Trapinch's jaws anywhere near his hands

Round 2: That's like saying I beat Kirby because Kirby is only 8 inches tall, Vibrava's Durability is still Small Town level+

Round 3: CH only has their full arsenal of weapons, why would they even random ice just to throw at Flygon?

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

because weapons also means prep time according to the wiki, and prep time also means research

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

and Kirby could suck you up and is half size of an average adult

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

and combined humans main method of fighting is how we fight,

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

1. No it's not

2. Nope, 8 inches

3. So, people in real life fight by throwing ice that they have for no reason at the opponent?

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

for 2. only as game sprite, who knows what real is, half the height of an average adult,

and 3. ever heard of the move ice ball? thats pretty much what i meant by ice

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

2. You do know the game sprite has the same height.....right?

3. So you're telling me that humans have the move Ice Ball?

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

2. thats not true because if you watch the commercials of Kirby your wrong

3. an block of ice is pretty much ice ball so yes (and its a weapon depends on where they fight, o better add that)

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

2. Commercials =/= Canon

3. Tell me what weapon would "a block of ice" fall under?

and even then, CH's first thought would not be "Oh it must be weak to ice" since it doesn't know Flygon's weakness would be in the first place

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

ok you got 2. but anyways lots of karate chops would knock down vibrava

3. i bet combined human would throw at it, 100 times more effective then snowball does, and yes, he would find out probably

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Also, Vibrava and Flygon stomp now, so I'll remove them from the thread

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

seems its updated, but trapinch may have big jaws, how about combined human getting earthquaked (see level up moves)

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

anyways trapinch gets this

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Trapinch - 1

CH - 0

 

[Overlord775]

trapich wins via more versatility, moves like earthquake and earth power give trapinch the range advantage, also he can create sandstorms to blind the CH and and him with a OHK fissure

 

[Gargoyle_1]

CH human via his expierience and intelligence, the moment Trapinch tries to get close, he loses.

 

[Overlord775]

CH human via his expierience and intelligence, the moment Trapinch tries to get close, he loses.

1, CH has never fought anything like trapinch 2. trapinch has more ranged attack than melee, so it's more probable that he would ramain at distance

 

[Gargoyle_1]

1. Irrelevant because he will still find weaknesses to exploit

2. In character Trapinch doesn't force himself to fight at a distance 100% of the time.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Okay, we're not trying to decide "CH/Trapinch wins 100% of the time", it's just who is more likely to win more times than the opponent

 

[DerpCity]

I don't think you're supposed to give non-pokemon characters types, just their attacks or moves.

Something I've always wondered was if Combined Human's weapons were considered equal to him in strength, since no weapon that he can hold in his hands is Small Town level+ in real life. Combined Human's only advantage is intelligence, but unless he can make Small Town level+ weapons on the fly I don't think he'll be able to fight Trapinch effectively in a melee or a ranged confrontation, since his guns will be useless and his hands or legs could get bitten while he swings them. Also, I doubt the Combined Human has any way of finding out Trapinch's type weaknesses without some external source providing it.

Basically, I vote for Trapinch.

@Gargoyle Even if Trapinch doesn't fight at range, the only place Composite Human can really swing at it is its face, which could easily bite him if he's not careful.

 

[Gargoyle_1]

I know.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

@DerpCity, I believe CH's weapons do scale to his AP

 

[Gargoyle_1]

I don't think you're supposed to give non-pokemon characters types, just their attacks or moves.

Something I've always wondered was if Combined Human's weapons were considered equal to him in strength, since no weapon that he can hold in his hands is Small Town level+ in real life. Combined Human's only advantage is intelligence, but unless he can make Small Town level+ weapons on the fly I don't think he'll be able to fight Trapinch effectively in a melee or a ranged confrontation, since his guns will be useless and his hands or legs could get bitten while he swings them. Also, I doubt the Combined Human has any way of finding out Trapinch's type weaknesses without some external source providing it.

Basically, I vote for Trapinch.

@Gargoyle Even if Trapinch doesn't fight at range, the only place Composite Human can really swing at it is its face, which could easily bite him if he's not careful.

Implying CH, a being with thousands of years of expierience, would not be careful....

 

[DerpCity]

You only needed to quote the bottom part. Either way, I just meant that it'd be really easy for Trapinch to bite him if he resorts to unarmed melee attacks.

Even if he uses weapons, which according to JSW scale from CH's AP, Trapinch can simply use Dig to avoid them entirely and attack him from below. If a direct melee approach isn't working or if Combined Human tries to use ranged weapons, it can use moves like Earthquake, Earth Power, Rock Slide, Hyper Beam, and Bulldoze, and Sandstorm would whittle him down as long as he's in the battle area.

 

[Overlord775]

also, trapinch can learn Hyper beam

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

hyper beam is TM and HM, nice try

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

and with weapons does this include safety goggles?

 

[DerpCity]

@1964Mustang Bulbapedia disagrees. Trapinch learns Hyper Beam at level 43. Also, pretty sure Safety Goggles aren't a weapon unless Combined Human would try to strangle the weird bug thing with them, so if they are included the OP would have to specify.

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

HOW JUST HOW wait lvl 43? isnt that when vibrava earlier evolves

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Safety Goggles are not weapons

 

[DerpCity]

Yes, it evolves into Vibrava at level 35, but that doesn't mean it has to. I've seen plenty of pokemon used by enemy trainers well over the level they should have evolved at but haven't, and wild Bounsweet, for example, are caught at levels 18 to 21, which is at or over the level they evolve at, and in various pokemon games you can catch Magikarp ranging from level 5 to 40. Pretty sure there are more examples.

 

[Overlord775]

@Derp magkarp can even be found in some places ranging from level 80 to 100

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

thats because bounsweet evolves at lvl 26 (i dont own a bounsweet ok)

and this is wild, so they never disobey, unless pokemon pelago but thats transfering

 

[DerpCity]

Erm, Bounsweet evolves at level 18. I know from experience, because I have on on my team in Pokemon Sun.

Again, there are plenty of areas where wild pokemon are overleveled compared to when they evolve. Earlier yesterday in Sun, for example, I found out you can encounter Trumbeak at level 52 on Poni Island, yet they evolve into Toucannon at level 28.

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

ok, but none of the games got lvl 43 trapinch or higher

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

and yes even if safety goggles arent weapons, trapinch will still win, and this keeps a stomp.

 

[DerpCity]

Again, Bulbapedia disagrees. According to the Desert section you encounter Trapinch at levels 46-47.

 

[fandom_1964Mustang]

where does the fight takes place btw