Update Pre-Crisis Superman to Tier 2-C: Low Multiverse level

[JohnCenaNation]

Pre-Crisis Superman during his fight against Jaxon, generated enough power causing all future timelines originally wiped out to be restored. Pretty much he is capable of casually breaking the time barrier and altering timelines with his punches. So why isn't he Tier 2-C, instead of Low 2-C?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Actually, his Low 2-C is with a sword that honestly should be unknown

I agree with 2-C

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Pretty that's due to outlier stuffins.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Silver age has multiple Low 2-C feats without the sword. 2-C is definitely fine. His current profile sucks and he's missing a ton of hax.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Actually, his Low 2-C is with a sword that honestly should be unknown
I agree with 2-C

The one who was wielding the Sword of Superman was Bronze Age Superman not Silver Age Superman.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Pretty that's due to outlier stuffins.

Bronze Age Superman (Sword of Superman) has a tier Low 2-C rating. Silver Age Superman is supposed to even be more powerful than that. In fact, there are two Superman from Silver Age of Comic Books that is above him with Silver Age Superman being the strongest between the two. Silver Age Superman had demonstrated too many Low 2-C feats casually without even trying for a tiering 2-C rating at all seriousness to be considered an outlier. Expressionally if this is the version of Superman that has crazy amounts of haxs he can invent whenever the author feels like it.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Bump

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Bump again.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Bump

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Bump

Wow! More people on the bump train.

 

[Standuser081]

I agree with this.

 

[Phoenix821]

What other Low 2-C feats are there?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Pre-Crisis Superman is both Silver and Bronze age Superman. Like how Cell Saga Goku is the same as Buu saga Goku.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this probably seems fine, but I would prefer if you ask Sandman31 and Matthew to comment here first.

This would scale to Mongul, Supergirl (Pre-Crisis) and Krypto the Superdog. Is here anybody else?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Pre-Crisis Darkseid and possibly Wonder Woman if she scales to PC Sups.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Checked, we do not have a Pre-Crisis WW page. I was just confusing her with GA Diana.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that Pre-Crisis wonder Woman was much weaker than Pre-Crisis Superman.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Agree

 

[JohnCenaNation]

I suppose that this probably seems fine, but I would prefer if you ask Sandman31 and Matthew to comment here first.
This would scale to Mongul, Supergirl (Pre-Crisis) and Krypto the Superdog. Is here anybody else?

I still don't know how to tag people.

 

[Antvasima]

It is not possible to tag people here. You need to visit their message walls and politely ask for help while providing a link to this thread.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Pre-Crisis Superman is both Silver and Bronze age Superman. Like how Cell Saga Goku is the same as Buu saga Goku.

You know what would have been better advised? Since there are four mainstream main timeline Superman, why don't we create a VS Battles Wiki for each four of them instead of mixing them around? One for Golden Age Superman, the other one for Silver Age Superman, third one for Bronze Age Superman, and lastly the final one for Modern Age Superman. This way, we can do proper powerscaling! Agreed?

 

[Antvasima]

Officially there are only the original Golden Age Superman, the Silver/Bronze Age Pre-Crisis Superman, the John Byrne Post-Crisis Superman, the Post-Flashpoint Superman, and the Rebirth Superman who is a combination of the previous two versions.

 

[Antvasima]

Have you asked Matthew and Sandman to comment here yet?

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Have you asked Matthew and Sandman to comment here yet?

Someone already asked Sandman, and I asked Matthew myself.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I have also done so now.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Officially there are only the original Golden Age Superman, the Silver/Bronze Age Pre-Crisis Superman, the John Byrne Post-Crisis Superman, the Post-Flashpoint Superman, and the Rebirth Superman who is a combination of the previous two versions.

I forgot to mention the version of Superman that goes by the identity of William Dunn. If I include him, then there would be five main versions of Superman in total.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I suppose that is the first official Superman character, as it was created in 1933, but it is not the DC Comics version.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Our Pre-Crisis Superman PRofile is the Earth One Superman from Silver and Bronze.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I suppose that this probably seems fine, but I would prefer if you ask Sandman31 and Matthew to comment here first.

This would scale to Mongul, Supergirl (Pre-Crisis) and Krypto the Superdog. Is there anybody else?

My avi, Streaky the Supercat

 

[Antvasima]

@Matthew

What do you think about a 2-C Pre-Crisis Superman? The feat itself seem legitimate to me.

@Cal

Okay. Thanks.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I think Superman also has Low 2-C feats in the Phantom Zone storyline.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so are you fine with an upgrade?

 

[JohnCenaNation]

I think Superman also has Low 2-C feats in the Phantom Zone storyline.

So does that mean Pre-Crisis Superman is getting a 2-C upgrade? I know about the Low 2-C upgrade, but what about the 2-C upgrade?

 

[Antvasima]

I would also like a reply regarding this.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Bump.

 

[Antvasima]

I will wait a while for Matthew to reply.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Not 2-C. Low 2-C maybe.

 

[Antvasima]

Are you sure?

It would be strange if we referred to a feat that restored multiple timelines as Low 2-C, rather than "At least 2-C".

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

If it is a 2-C feat than it is an outlier.

 

[Antvasima]

I dunno. Pre-Crisis Superman seldom truly pushed himself, and Supergirl posed a threat to the Anti-Monitor, before the latter reached full power.

Anyway, what Low 2-C feat do you think that we should scale from?