Weiss Schnee vs Katsuki Bakugo (U.A. Sports Festival Final Event, but it's an 8-A tournament: Round 1) (1-9-0) (Grace over)

[Spinoirr]

Also “fighting while blind” (something Weiss cannot do until shown since it’s a every specific thing) is not the same as “oh a flashbang attack capable of one shotting 8-A characters just went off in my face”

She tries the restraint trick MAYBE two times before he plans around it and blinds her + knocks her out of the ring.

It's a mechanic of Aura, Ren can sense things behind him via focusing

It's on the Aura page

 

[koopa3144]

Bakugo FRA

Bakugo FRA.

Counted and that starts grace!

 

[Kingofwolves999]

It's a mechanic of Aura, Ren can sense things behind him via focusing

It's on the Aura page

Has Weiss been shown to be proficient with doing this in the middle of combat? And how does that matter if Bakugo is going to be blasting her with a massive explosion she can’t dodge due to the arena size constraints whether she’s blind or not, so it’s not like a sword or claw she can dodge?

 

[Spinoirr]

Now Weiss has fought for a day in Volume 2. And fought on and off in Vol 7-9 for three days without any sleep mind you for those three days

So it's not like her stamina is worse then Bakugo's

 

[DaReaperMan]

Weiss' Aura just has a tendency to break in minutes

 

[Spinoirr]

Weiss' Aura just has a tendency to break in minutes

Thats because shshe'the Megumi of the group

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Thats because shshe'the Megumi of the group

So she's potential woman?
Good to know before i watch the series ig

 

[DaReaperMan]

Thats because shshe'the Megumi of the group

All I heard is "Literally any other RWBY 8-A would have been better" lol

 

[DaReaperMan]

So she's potential woman?
Good to know before i watch the series ig

The whole series?

Now I just pity you.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Now Weiss has fought for a day in Volume 2. And fought on and off in Vol 7-9 for three days without any sleep mind you for those three days

So it's not like her stamina is worse then Bakugo's

With her team. And that was not 24 hours of fighting, she was on and off battling some fodder Grimm while they were exploring ruins with Oobleck. That is NOT the same as being constantly ganked by Pixie Bob’s earth golem for 8 hours straight no breaks until they reached their camp site.

“On and off” are key words there. If I’m a martial artist and I, on and off, at intervals you do not know, with breaks and pauses you cannot guess, fight for a full day without going to sleep, could I fight a single person for a full 24 hours without a break? No, I would fight them and be tired as heck and maybe be able to fight a couple more people before I’m dead tired and need a break.

Weiss does not have monstrous stamina or aura reserves for long fights. She has barely superhuman stamina, if anything her feats are just athletic and she gets it from enduring pain. No Ruby character has ever been in a straight forward, one on one fight with a comparable combatant, and lasted for a single hour without stopping.

 

[Keeweed]

So she's potential woman?
Good to know before i watch the series ig

The only fight against a human she has won in a one v one was against someone who threw the fight
Her second fight (first in show) she nearly lost to a pig because it spun

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Crazy how no one here has aura that lasts for an hour straight.

And even crazier how no one uses an aura potion to refresh their aura, as they would so obviously do because the very canon and completely normal 99x bottles of aura potion they have shoved up their behinds would take care of their needs.

 

[Spinoirr]

Guys let's be real, in character Weiss loves to spam her summons but thank God she learned to partially summon them to attack, like summoning Nevermore wings quickly to rain down feathers to attack instead of what she used to do is spam summons like Megumi spams his only for them to be destroyed

Also she loves using gravity glyphs as platforms in the air, to draw someone towards them, hold them in place

 

[Spinoirr]

Crazy how no one here has aura that lasts for an hour straight.

And even crazier how no one uses an aura potion to refresh their aura, as they would so obviously do because the very canon and completely normal 99x bottles of aura potion they have shoved up their behinds would take care of their needs.

Personally that's more of a wiki problem with how we treat game mechanics in general

Like Xenoblade characters having Stat mechanics on their profiles

 

[DaReaperMan]

Crazy how no one here has aura that lasts for an hour straight.

And even crazier how no one uses an aura potion to refresh their aura, as they would so obviously do because the very canon and completely normal 99x bottles of aura potion they have shoved up their behinds would take care of their needs.

TBH, some of these characters have asses that big

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Personally that's more of a wiki problem with how we treat game mechanics in general

Like Xenoblade characters having Stat mechanics on their profiles

I think it’s more of a “main canon does not have these things and they exist purely for gameplay purposes of healing/resource recovery and in no way reflect the truth of how you can recover aura in the actual series” issue.

But I digress.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

TBH, some of these characters have asses that big

I mean do you SEE Elm? Now THAT I could believe

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

TBH, some of these characters have asses that big

top 10 funniest reaper replies

 

[Keeweed]

The potions really should just be non canon. Isn’t the entire point of secondary canon is that if the main canon contradicts it, that takes priority. Like there obviously being no aura potions and they break every story beat ever

 

[AthelChan]

Only thing good about the show

TBH, some of these characters have asses that big

 

[WeeklyBattles]

“Weiss can fight for hours, her aura stores and stamina is immense!”

And the example is that she was on and off dealing with fodder Grimm and low budget work outs, with plenty of rest and her team helping out, and was completely and utterly exhausted from it.

Sure do wonder why she didn’t just drink an Aura potion and immediately gain back all of her aura.

Or why they didn’t give Penny an aura potion when she lost her aura.

Or why the Ace ops didn’t drink aura potions.

Or why Qrow didn’t.

Or why Winter didn’t.

Or why Blake didn’t vs the Ace ops.

Or why-

Make a CRT then, sorry you dont like it but its canon that she can do this, dont blame me for RWBY's shitty writing

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The potions really should just be non canon. Isn’t the entire point of secondary canon is that if the main canon contradicts it, that takes priority. Like there obviously being no aura potions and they break every story beat ever

Not only are the potions fully canon, but its something that they have canonically shown to carry in the show itself as well as the comics and other games. Yang in the comic that takes place between volumes 3and 4 even has a whole arc around her going to a potion seller to buy restoration potions. RWBY's writing is just ass.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I am annoyed volume 8 keeps getting brought up as a stamina feat. Which volume 8 did some people watch because the one I watched had plenty of scenes of the characters sitting around and resting. I went to bootcamp, we worked for way longer, I really don’t see anything they did that would be above normal human much less superhuman. The volume 1 feat is terrible since that one day was their absolute limit and had yang get rag dolled as a result. She was fully done and out of it from the day of killing complete fodder.

Plus I absolutely hate to death we are still trying to crowbar tier 7 onto non Maidens for anything, but nobody has time to argue for 40 pages so at least it’s just for the shield that can be depleted by weaker attacks anyways (even if I absolutely disagree to that to high heavens)

Dont worry, when I revise the profiles back to tier 7 we wont have to argue anymore

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Counted!

Could you not? The arguments being FRAed are inaccurate

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Knock out it is

You can blast an opponent to the ground when they’re in the air. Ever seen Dragon Ball?

Which he cant do, because she can fly.

Fighting Grimm all day with breaks in between and alongside 3 other people. Fodder fights literally. “On and off,” “she and her team.” Like I said, you are straight up wrong saying she can engage a single opponent, comparable or stronger than herself, for hours straight. Her Aura and stamina will run out.

Again, make a CRT. And Arrowfell canonically takes place within a span of 48 hours with them refusing to take breaks or rest over the course of the game.

He can explode his entire body in this key. His explosions can literally self detonate himself and he takes minimal damage from them as his durability scales above his gauntlets which can tank hundreds of his explosions without any wear. He can, indeed, destroy any restraints she attempts on him.

So he'll just blow himself up a few hundred times until his stamina gives out.

All of which he can destroy and is 3x stronger than.

All of which she can remake with a thought.

Her summons are not several times stronger than herself nor will they close any kind of gap. They are stronger, sure, but you’re attempting to force a multiplier that doesn’t exist. Bakugo can reach peak of 8-A in this fight, he is stomping her summons into the ground. They are just massive targets with no way of doing harm to him. Her riding on a summon just means he can target it and blast towards her in the air to force her down and out of bounds.

Theyre quite literally in another tier entirely from her what are you talking about.

Weiss cannot fight while blind. Only specific characters with Aura can do that, and Weiss has never demonstrated the ability, let alone in the midst of a fight without any warning. She attempts anything, she gets blinded and blasted off the platform before she has time to do anything. Bakugo can endure his own explosions far more than Weiss can last with spamming her Semblance.

No. Full stop no. That is canonically something all aura users can do.

Aura does NOT last for hours, and it never has, in single combat.

Before The Dawn proves otherwise, where the headmaster of Shade Academy fought a huntress for several hours straight without either one running out of Aura.

Maidens have higher aura than anyone in the verse and their aura lasts for only minutes.

Thats not true at all. Im genuinely curious where youre getting this idea, because this is never stated at any point in the series. Maiden powers have nothing to do with Aura.

Any other showings of aura lasting for a long time is in between breaks with teammates covering for her, given time to rest and recover, and she was still exhausted from it.

Again, Arrowfell.

not responding to this as it’s literally just all my talking points from above, pointless to respond to this old post.

Mkay, i'll still be arguing but you do you

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also “fighting while blind” (something Weiss cannot do until shown since it’s a every specific thing) is not the same as “oh a flashbang attack capable of one shotting 8-A characters just went off in my face”

She tries the restraint trick MAYBE two times before he plans around it and blinds her + knocks her out of the ring.

How exactly does he do that while restrained?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Counted and that starts grace!

I will be sure to have this matchup removed if it gets added. People are severely misrepresenting Weiss and FRA training Bakugo using faulty arguments.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

With her team. And that was not 24 hours of fighting, she was on and off battling some fodder Grimm while they were exploring ruins with Oobleck. That is NOT the same as being constantly ganked by Pixie Bob’s earth golem for 8 hours straight no breaks until they reached their camp site.

“On and off” are key words there. If I’m a martial artist and I, on and off, at intervals you do not know, with breaks and pauses you cannot guess, fight for a full day without going to sleep, could I fight a single person for a full 24 hours without a break? No, I would fight them and be tired as heck and maybe be able to fight a couple more people before I’m dead tired and need a break.

Weiss does not have monstrous stamina or aura reserves for long fights. She has barely superhuman stamina, if anything her feats are just athletic and she gets it from enduring pain. No Ruby character has ever been in a straight forward, one on one fight with a comparable combatant, and lasted for a single hour without stopping.

Make a CRT then

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Crazy how no one here has aura that lasts for an hour straight.

And even crazier how no one uses an aura potion to refresh their aura, as they would so obviously do because the very canon and completely normal 99x bottles of aura potion they have shoved up their behinds would take care of their needs.

Already responded to this but it really feels like youre just misrepresenting Weiss on purpose now

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I think it’s more of a “main canon does not have these things and they exist purely for gameplay purposes of healing/resource recovery and in no way reflect the truth of how you can recover aura in the actual series” issue.

But I digress.

Again, no, these things are shown to fully exist in-canon and have been shown in the show, comics, games, and novels.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Now then, are we going to actually debate or just FRA train bakugo and have this matchup invalidated?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Make a CRT then, sorry you dont like it but its canon that she can do this, dont blame me for RWBY's shitty writing

Weekly, "Can" does not mean "Will".

If the character doesn't do it basically ever, then it's going to be labeled Out of Character for them to use in a versus thread.

Eleven posts in a row, btw. I think we hit a record for how much one person can wank a thread's runtime in such a short amount of time.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Weekly, what the ****? Who the actual **** needs to undecuple post like that?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Weekly, "Can" does not mean "Will".

If the character doesn't do it basically ever, then it's going to be labeled Out of Character for them to use in a versus thread.

Okay, but Weiss HAS used them before in-canon. Like I said, Im sorry if you guys do not like that she has access to these things but they do very much exist in-canon and they hae very much been used by Weiss and the rest of the team in-canon. The only thing you can argue not being standard is the Revive Ring because it was only invented and formally tested during the timeskip in volume 7 and thus wasnt widely available at the time.

Eleven posts in a row, btw. I think we hit a record for how much one person can wank a thread's runtime in such a short amount of time.

I was told to go to 4 pages

Weekly, what the *? Who the actual * needs to undecuple post like that?

Me, and youre lucky i skipped some : T

 

[KLOL506]

11. Posts. In a Row.

Bro thinks this is the Bundesliga Farmers' League where Bayern Munich with Harry Kane wins nothing-trophies only to bottle in the European Stage.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Okay, but Weiss HAS used them before in-canon. Like I said, Im sorry if you guys do not like that she has access to these things but they do very much exist in-canon and they hae very much been used by Weiss and the rest of the team in-canon. The only thing you can argue not being standard is the Revive Ring because it was only invented and formally tested during the timeskip in volume 7 and thus wasnt widely available at the time.

Countless instances aura has been broken, and she ***** one out what, for the runtime of a game and a couple times outside of it? This isn't an argument. Either Weiss is a moron and doesn't use them when she should... which seeing as she's had her aura broken multiple times and not pulled one out... or she doesn't usually have them and thus it wouldn't be counted for this match. Seeing as she has them as standard equipment, she's a room temperature IQ dunce.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Countless instances aura has been broken, and she ***** one out what, for the runtime of a game and a couple times outside of it? This isn't an argument. Either Weiss is a moron and doesn't use them when she should... which seeing as she's had her aura broken multiple times and not pulled one out... or she doesn't usually have them and thus it wouldn't be counted for this match. Seeing as she has them as standard equipment, she's a room temperature IQ dunce.

I'm willing to bet both honestly considering the way she fights after a certain point in the show.

 

[MunchkinGuy]

I vote Bakugo, the sweat projectiles and mobility as a result would be insanely OP here despite the opposition's elemental item attacks, summons, summon attacks, shield, and greater mobility.

Also, I don't get the impression that Weiss's flight is comparable to Dragon Ball's take on the power or grants her any kind of automatic ability that protects against that Quirk.

I could be wrong, while since I have looked at both of these series.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Countless instances aura has been broken, and she ***** one out what, for the runtime of a game and a couple times outside of it? This isn't an argument. Either Weiss is a moron and doesn't use them when she should... which seeing as she's had her aura broken multiple times and not pulled one out... or she doesn't usually have them and thus it wouldn't be counted for this match. Seeing as she has them as standard equipment, she's a room temperature IQ dunce.

It is the latter yes, because she is fully aware that she has them in the comics and games. I never said RWBY had good writing.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I vote Bakugo, the sweat projectiles and mobility as a result would be insanely OP here despite the opposition's elemental item attacks, summons, summon attacks, shield, and greater mobility.

Also, I don't get the impression that Weiss's flight is comparable to Dragon Ball's take on the power or grants her any kind of automatic ability that protects against that Quirk.

I could be wrong, while since I have looked at both of these series.

The problem is Weiss has multiple ways to take Bakugo's explosions out of the fight entirely by restraining him and preventing him from aiming them at her without blowing himself up, as well as being able to summon her summons directly on top of Bakugo. And Weiss is the one with better mobility here due to having true flight on top of her non-flight mobility, whereas Bakugo only has non-flight mobility