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Yellow Lion vs Brocco
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i think brocco for the following reasons zenkai boosts are shown to be insane boosts of power and the yellow lion has gravity manilupion which saiyans train under gravity and have higher gravity on vegeta anyway so not have much effect there and hunk does have a direct feat but brocco has generally has better combat experice than a simple pilot as he is a warrior and has homing on his ki attacks and can use it defensively as well which makes up for the indirect ffeat as well as any power difference they have he could catch up with a zenkai or hold his own with barriers
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Brocco doesn't have much of that as he doesn't exist. Has no background due to being a projection of the HTC. Also, Zenkai's aren't abusable unless you're either Cell or you have a Dende with you.
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Don't. Because it's not a vote.
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So. Brocco is a filler-only saiyan. That would mean we would use filler's "canon" for him, right?
First off, we'll assume no Zenkais or gravity training or experience living on Planet Vegeta because, as said above, he lacks any background, being just a projection of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
Similarly, we can't assume he has much combat experience unless he says he does or demonstrates it, being a HTC projection.
Incidentally, is Hunk in the Yellow Lion during this match, or is it operating itself? The Base Key has several abilities the 5-A Key has & I'm wondering if any of them are applicable to the Yellow Lion.
Here's the abilities the 9-C Key has that 5-A doesn't.
Powers and Abilities: Peak Human Physical Characteristics, Vehicular Mastery, Firearm Mastery, can create energy shields, scanning, hologram creation,
(PHPC applies to Hunk only, obviously.) If Hunk is there, there's a very good pilot & marksman with a few extra abilities.
Independent of that, let's look at the stats.
Range: Standard melee range, Planetary with ki blasts. (I'm assuming Planetary comes from scaling despite that he's a creation of the HTC that may've been based on Kami/Mr. Popo's possibly incomplete knowledge of the saiyans & whether he was real or not, never demonstrated such range.)
Standard Equipment: A scouter.
Intelligence: Brocco is a powerful and skilled fighter.
Weaknesses: Brocco will presumably be weakened and disoriented if his tail is grabbed or removed.
Range: Hundreds of meters with his Bayard. Several hundred kilometers with the Yellow Lion (Should have comparable range to the Black Lion) (I'm surprised it's not higher, for all the space battling the Lions have done.)
Standard Equipment: His Lion, The Yellow Lion, His Bayard which can turn into a minigun-like cannon
Intelligence: Genius. Is capable of hacking alien machinery, understanding the biological integrity of an planet-consuming alien worm, and is capable of creating a device that can identify foreign elements based on their atomic structure.
Weaknesses: Gets easily scared, is often hungry, and is prone to motion sickness (seems to have lessened as the series has gone on).
In terms of Stamina & Intelligence, Hunk seems to be better than Brocco. If it's JUST the Yellow Lion, then I'm not sure if those apply to it. If Hunk is there, how late into the series is this Hunk, given Hunk's former motion sickness weaknss?
Now onto the AP/Durability stats....
Durability: Large Planet level
Planet level (Survived a spell that was said to have destroyed planets. Comparable to Princess Allura, who survived a point blank blast from a Galran warship, which was said to be able to destroy planets) | Large Planet level (The robotic armor of the Yellow Lion was undamaged from a Yottaton grade attack)
Uhhh. How many Yottatons? Because LPL ranges from 2.7 Yottatons to 16.512 Ninatons.
In any case, this kinda depends on if Hunk is there. Hunk, if he can overcome his fear & hunger, could probably outsmart Brocco with good piloting & tactics, & Brocco's justification-less stamina of High (Was he even shown fighting for hours?) means he might be able to outlast him.
Hunk's intelligence, & if he has his 9-C Key's Scanning & Hologram Creation can also help to screw with Brocco, & more importantly his Intelligence (And his scanning, if it's available.) would help him pick up on Brocco's weakness.
I forget how he used it, but most any Saiyan Warrior will keep their tail wrapped around their waist. Someone like Hunk who has experience observing & fighting an alien would probably notice the tail being deliberately kept like that, even in high-speed, high-range combat where it should be flying loose or be positioned for balance.
Once Hunk can pick up on that, if he can start targeting Brocco's tail, he can start targeting it, & as Brocco's profile indicates, he'll be weakened if its grabbed or removed.
Brocco's Enhanced Senses don't help much, because the battlefield is an open field, can't really Zenkai on short notice in a fight like this, but he does have a range advantage... except AFAIK, he'd prefer close combat. Not to mention, Hunk is skilled enough to dodge.
I think Hunk could win this, High Difficulty. He has to exploit Brocco's tail weakness, shake off his fear quickly, & think clearly. (Which, IIRC, is something he's done before plenty of times.) If he has his 9-C Key's abilities, too, his chances may go up slightly, too.
First off, we'll assume no Zenkais or gravity training or experience living on Planet Vegeta because, as said above, he lacks any background, being just a projection of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
Similarly, we can't assume he has much combat experience unless he says he does or demonstrates it, being a HTC projection.
Incidentally, is Hunk in the Yellow Lion during this match, or is it operating itself? The Base Key has several abilities the 5-A Key has & I'm wondering if any of them are applicable to the Yellow Lion.
Here's the abilities the 9-C Key has that 5-A doesn't.
Powers and Abilities: Peak Human Physical Characteristics, Vehicular Mastery, Firearm Mastery, can create energy shields, scanning, hologram creation,
(PHPC applies to Hunk only, obviously.) If Hunk is there, there's a very good pilot & marksman with a few extra abilities.
Independent of that, let's look at the stats.
- Brocco:
Range: Standard melee range, Planetary with ki blasts. (I'm assuming Planetary comes from scaling despite that he's a creation of the HTC that may've been based on Kami/Mr. Popo's possibly incomplete knowledge of the saiyans & whether he was real or not, never demonstrated such range.)
Standard Equipment: A scouter.
Intelligence: Brocco is a powerful and skilled fighter.
Weaknesses: Brocco will presumably be weakened and disoriented if his tail is grabbed or removed.
- Hunk
Range: Hundreds of meters with his Bayard. Several hundred kilometers with the Yellow Lion (Should have comparable range to the Black Lion) (I'm surprised it's not higher, for all the space battling the Lions have done.)
Standard Equipment: His Lion, The Yellow Lion, His Bayard which can turn into a minigun-like cannon
Intelligence: Genius. Is capable of hacking alien machinery, understanding the biological integrity of an planet-consuming alien worm, and is capable of creating a device that can identify foreign elements based on their atomic structure.
Weaknesses: Gets easily scared, is often hungry, and is prone to motion sickness (seems to have lessened as the series has gone on).
In terms of Stamina & Intelligence, Hunk seems to be better than Brocco. If it's JUST the Yellow Lion, then I'm not sure if those apply to it. If Hunk is there, how late into the series is this Hunk, given Hunk's former motion sickness weaknss?
Now onto the AP/Durability stats....
- Brocco
Durability: Large Planet level
- Hunk
Planet level (Survived a spell that was said to have destroyed planets. Comparable to Princess Allura, who survived a point blank blast from a Galran warship, which was said to be able to destroy planets) | Large Planet level (The robotic armor of the Yellow Lion was undamaged from a Yottaton grade attack)
Uhhh. How many Yottatons? Because LPL ranges from 2.7 Yottatons to 16.512 Ninatons.
In any case, this kinda depends on if Hunk is there. Hunk, if he can overcome his fear & hunger, could probably outsmart Brocco with good piloting & tactics, & Brocco's justification-less stamina of High (Was he even shown fighting for hours?) means he might be able to outlast him.
Hunk's intelligence, & if he has his 9-C Key's Scanning & Hologram Creation can also help to screw with Brocco, & more importantly his Intelligence (And his scanning, if it's available.) would help him pick up on Brocco's weakness.
I forget how he used it, but most any Saiyan Warrior will keep their tail wrapped around their waist. Someone like Hunk who has experience observing & fighting an alien would probably notice the tail being deliberately kept like that, even in high-speed, high-range combat where it should be flying loose or be positioned for balance.
Once Hunk can pick up on that, if he can start targeting Brocco's tail, he can start targeting it, & as Brocco's profile indicates, he'll be weakened if its grabbed or removed.
Brocco's Enhanced Senses don't help much, because the battlefield is an open field, can't really Zenkai on short notice in a fight like this, but he does have a range advantage... except AFAIK, he'd prefer close combat. Not to mention, Hunk is skilled enough to dodge.
I think Hunk could win this, High Difficulty. He has to exploit Brocco's tail weakness, shake off his fear quickly, & think clearly. (Which, IIRC, is something he's done before plenty of times.) If he has his 9-C Key's abilities, too, his chances may go up slightly, too.
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