Yin Tian Shen Yin Series | Cosmology Redo | Part 2

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Introduction​

This is a redo of a previous CRT. I realized that one was a little too long and daunting for any staff member to review properly, so I split it into parts to make it a little easier to digest.

This is the second part, and the first can be found below;

• Part 1

Spoiler: Cosmology & Tiers

The Infinite Eternal Return:

He smiled and took another step—but this step was not merely ascending one layer. Instead, it was as if he traversed the Three Realms in a single stride, shattering infinite layers of dream seals to reach the highest plane of reality. At once, the endless seals crafted by Taiyi Primordial Chaos shattered—yet Su Zhou frowned slightly.

Su Zhou continued to stride forward, but no matter how many times he broke through the Taiji of dream and reality, no matter how many times he 'ascended,' he could never reach the apex—even infinite ascensions still left an infinitely higher 'relative reality' to chase. The cycle of illusion and reality, transcending again and again, ascending time after time, only led him into yet another illusory cycle. Su Zhou could ensure his own reality, but he could not reach 'absolute reality.'

Su Zhou was sealed at the farthest end of that infinite dream. Even if he tried to leap out one layer, or infinite layers, there would always be another infinite layer waiting for him to climb.

• Absolute Reality is described as existing beyond the highest planes of reality, beyond not simply infinite layers of dreams, but infinite layers beyond that as well. I believe this should be Meta-Meta-High 1-A as the Taiyi Primordial Chaos is already rated Meta-High 1-A.

The Delusional Mind Creator:

All unattainable thoughts are delusions; all unrealized desires are delusional minds. It is the most shameless, yet most sincere, imagination. And the 'Delusional Mind Creator' could turn all of this into reality! Even manifest endless real universes as the source of power sustaining these delusions!

The Delusional Mind Creator, mirrored Su Zhou's delusions, unfolding his most inconceivable and unimaginable fantasies. And the final True World, transformed all of this into 'reality,' into a 'real multiverse.' And Su Zhou, became the Creator God of this multiversal prison.

In that multiverse, Su Zhou could, as he wished, defeat the five Torrents, overcome the Five Supreme Saints, and then confront the Taboo within that multiverse. He could succeed or fail, just like a person fantasizing before sleep about winning fifty million—no matter what outcome he imagined, without buying a lottery ticket, none of it could come true. Even if it did, it wouldn't be in the 'real universe.' The Delusional Mind Creator and the True World possessed the power to freely manipulate delusions and their realization. Any Great Path, any being, any Mind, any technique, any object, any realm, any knowledge or thought—all phenomena and existences were but reflections in their mirror, acknowledged as truth.

No matter what He achieves, even omniscience and omnipotence, it would be entirely reasonable, entirely normal—so He shouldn’t be able to escape this prison either!

"At first, it was fine. I was genuinely trapped."

Su Zhou’s face twisted as if He had eaten a rotten crab, His brows furrowed as He waved His right hand forward, as though trying to shoo away something unpleasant: "But later, when I became a Great Existence, I realized Yalla didn’t argue with me, and Twilight even came to congratulate me instead of saying 'meaningless'—ugh, that was just too... bleh!"

• Within the layers of the Taiyi Primordial Chaos, one is made into a Creator God who can manifest any unattainable delusions or imagination. Making yourself omnipotent, breaking free from the Taiyi Primordial Chaos, becoming a higher existence, any realm, knowledge, or thought can be made real. But it's still all inside the Taiyi Primordial Chaos. So every layer of dreams can essentially contain an arbitrarily large Cosmology within them, that is 'real', which I believe should be Infinite "Meta"-Meta-High 1-A.

Torrents:

far higher with [Infinity] & [Eternity] (Torrents with the Elements of [Infinity] and [Eternity] are capable of asserting their own absolute reality. With a single step, they can become more "real," ascending beyond infinite layers of dreams and their hierarchies to reach the highest point of reality. Going even further, they are capable of shattering any of their own delusions made real—directly transcending [The Infinite Multiversal Prison]. In the end, the only true way for a Torrent to defeat another Torrent is through mutual analysis—solving the riddles of one another’s existence. The one who possesses the greater conviction becomes the ultimate victor)

• Torrents are capable of freely manipulating their qualitative properties. They can shatter and break free from everything we've discussed up to this point, because the only way for a Torrent to beat another Torrent is through solving each other's existence. I believe this shows the size of the structures is fairly irrelevant to them, and they should be Meta-"Infinite "Meta"-Meta-High 1-A" (For anyone unaware, this is just a way of describing a being beyond endless meta-qualitative superiorities)

Multiverse:

The multiverse was vast and boundless. Even infinite universes were but a drop in the ocean within this Sealed Multiverse, insignificant as grains of sand, repeating the cycle of uncertain birth and destruction, the wheel of Reincarnation turning endlessly.

A multiverse, meanwhile, contains the realized possibilities of infinite universes—the totality of all that is possible and impossible, all parallel and unique spacetimes. In other words, by the 'strict definition of humanity,' an entity defined as a multiverse should, by all rights, be 'everything.'

After all, the multiverse is simply too immense-a concept that nearly transcends all others, encompassing everything imaginable and unimaginable.

All human-defined cognition and descriptions were not entirely applicable here. Here, the infinite expansion of all things amounted only to the expansion of a single multiverse... The existence of multiple multiverses signified an 'impossible possibility.' And this—all possible and impossible things, along with the 'impossible possibility'—was the multiverse itself.

• The Multiverse is considered to transcend everything, containing the totality of unique spacetimes, which are grains of sand in comparison to its immensity. It is 'everything' by humanity's definition, and the infinite expansion of all things can still be contained inside of one. The existence of multiple multiverses signifies the existence of an 'impossible possibility', while all possible and impossible things form the impossible possibility that is the Multiverse. I think this should be infinitely higher in Meta-"Infinite "Meta"-Meta-High 1-A"

 

[Pluto321]

so Torrents and Multiverse are High 1A+ (since it is highest tier below tier 0)

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

so Torrents and Multiverse are High 1A+ (since it is highest tier below tier 0)

Not exactly, High 1-A can be extended infinitely.

 

[Pluto321]

Not exactly, High 1-A can be extended infinitely.

and what about tier 0, that you present in first crt, are you leaving that for part 3 ?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

and what about tier 0, that you present in first crt, are you leaving that for part 3 ?

Probably Part 4, Part 3 is going to everything between The Void & The Derivation Axis.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Bump

@Qawsedf234

Part 1 ended getting resolved fairly quickly, so if you're still willing, could use input on this one.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Part 1 ended getting resolved fairly quickly, so if you're still willing, could use input on this one.

With part 1 accepted, I think the proposals here look fine. As mentioned before, High 1-A goes on forever in the same way that High 1-B+/Low 1-A can go on forever with Cardinal Sets. Unless you embody/effect all Logical World or qualify as the source of existence then you can go on forever without reaching High 1-A+ or 0.

 

[ExcelsisBerny]

The way The Delusional Mind Creator part is written is really confusing. I don’t understand why that description is supposedly referring to infinite meta-jumps.

Would you be kind enough to explain it to me more clearly so I can understand?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

The way The Delusional Mind Creator part is written is really confusing. I don’t understand why that description is supposedly referring to infinite meta-jumps.

Would you be kind enough to explain it to me more clearly so I can understand?

The Delusional Mind Creator possesses the power to turn any delusion, be it realms, techniques, beings, or more, into actual reality.

This power is then bestowed upon Su Zhou, who is imprisoned within the Multiversal Prison, a construct made up of an endless, incomprehensible number of dream layers.

With this ability, Su Zhou essentially becomes a god. He can delude himself into being omnipotent, defeating his opponents just as strong as him, escaping the Multiversal Prison, or even ascending to the status of a Great Existence entities that surpass most of the Cosmology. Everything he imagines genuinely becomes real and truly happens, though it all still takes place within just one of the infinite dream layers of the Multiversal Prison.

 

[ExcelsisBerny]

With this ability, Su Zhou essentially becomes a god. He can delude himself into being omnipotent, defeating his opponents just as strong as him, escaping the Multiversal Prison, or even ascending to the status of a Great Existence entities that surpass most of the Cosmology. Everything he imagines genuinely becomes real and truly happens, though it all still takes place within just one of the infinite dream layers of the Multiversal Prison.

So he can imagine escaping the Multiversal Prison, but even if he imagines escaping it (and he can, because you're saying he becomes omnipotent within that imagination), he's still bound to the Multiversal Prison.

Let me make sure I’m getting this right. We have a character who’s confined within the first layer of an infinite hierarchy, call it A1.

Now, this character can manifest an infinite hierarchy B, as vast as he wants, within A1. Even if he imagines escaping A1, he only escapes a fake A1, because he remains confined to the real A1. Which means A1 is self-containing or self-embedding.

Tell me if I’m wrong.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

So he can imagine escaping the Multiversal Prison, but even if he imagines escaping it (and he can, because you're saying he becomes omnipotent within that imagination), he's still bound to the Multiversal Prison.

Let me make sure I’m getting this right. We have a character who’s confined within the first layer of an infinite hierarchy, call it A1.

Now, this character can manifest an infinite hierarchy B, as vast as he wants, within A1. Even if he imagines escaping A1, he only escapes a fake A1, because he remains confined to the real A1. Which means A1 is self-containing or self-embedding.

Tell me if I’m wrong.

Pretty much, yeah.

 

[Phoenks]

Can you explain why you have the Torrents at Supra-Quality? I don't recall us discussing that in the last thread.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Can you explain why you have the Torrents at Supra-Quality? I don't recall us discussing that in the last thread.

It's based on the The Delusional Mind Creator section. I brought it up, but no one ever commented on it, and then I got sidetracked by the Tier 0 and High 1-A+ things. Additionally, after I realized how confusing everything was, I reviewed my scans again and reorganized the Cosmology to make more sense.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

For Absolute Reality, if it is not a change in quality itself, then for meta-meta quality, transcending simply infinite layers of dreams and infinite layers beyond that as well is not enough for the next meta. For the same reason, transcending infinite plus infinite dimensions is not enough for Low 1-A and 1-A.
So Absolute Reality is a meta-meta quality because no matter how many layers one stacks, they will never reach Absolute Reality. Thus, it transcends all possible layers that will spring from that quality, hence meta-meta quality.
So I agree with it , meta-meta quality Absolute Reality.

Is the Delusional Mind Creator above Absolute Reality?
It still seems to involve layers within meta-quality.

As for Torrents for Supra-Quality, I don’t see it, they seem to be layered within meta-quality. They haven’t even reached Absolute Reality.
Also, the layers/hierarchies in 1-A or in meta-quality include all possible layers this goes far beyond any kind of infinity, since it includes all possible and all conceivable infinities.

The multiverse is everything itself so far. So it would fall under meta-meta quality, because it does not completely transcend everything; it is only encompasses everything.

 

[Phoenks]

I don't quite agree with Supra because there's nothing that suggests the hierarchies ever detached from one another. It's all going up within the same chain. So I'd just say it's layers into the same meta-quality, rather than multiple meta-qualities stacked on top of the other.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

For Absolute Reality, if it is not a change in quality itself, then for meta-meta quality, transcending simply infinite layers of dreams and infinite layers beyond that as well is not enough for the next meta. For the same reason, transcending infinite plus infinite dimensions is not enough for Low 1-A and 1-A. So Absolute Reality is a meta-meta quality because no matter how many layers one stacks, they will never reach Absolute Reality. Thus, it transcends all possible layers that will spring from that quality, hence meta-meta quality.
So I agree with it , meta-meta quality Absolute Reality.

Cool.

Is the Delusional Mind Creator above Absolute Reality? It still seems to involve layers within meta-quality.

Here's an image to help you understand;

And yes, this type of scaling is accepted, it's how WoD's Tellurian hierarchy is Supra, and Gu Chensha.

As for Torrents for Supra-Quality, I don’t see it, they seem to be layered within meta-quality. They haven’t even reached Absolute Reality.

They can break free of the Multiversal Prison; that's the whole point.

The multiverse is everything itself so far. So it would fall under meta-meta quality, because it does not completely transcend everything; it is only encompasses everything.

It just scales to Torrents.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

This entire construct is essentially an enormous Multiversal Prison.

The first layer of this prison consists of endless layers of dreams, though the Main Character MC can break free from these with relative ease.

The second layer goes even farther: the dreams are arranged in an infinite cycle. Beyond infinite layers, there's yet another endless cycle, and true, Absolute Reality exists beyond all of this.

The third layer is largely irrelevant, scaling-wise.

The fourth and fifth layers make it so that, within each dream, any delusion can become reality for that level.

For example, imagine a High 1-A being trapped in this infinite stack of dreams. If they transcend one dream, they’ve moved up one layer into High 1-A; transcend another, and they're two layers deep, and so on.

But if each dream can contain its own complete cosmology, then every time you transcend a dream, you could land in a new reality, each with its own High 1-A hierarchy. So, escaping one dream just brings you to another, making each transcendence a Meta-Qualitative one.

Not enough to make each transcendence meta-quality, since they are all still operating in the same quality, which is realness, which just makes it layers in meta-quality.

And yes, this type of scaling is accepted, it's how WoD's Tellurian hierarchy is Supra, and Gu Chensha.

Don’t try to join their wanks . Ultima never even agreed with Supra-Quality for Gu Chensha, he only agreed with layers in meta-quality.

They can break free of the Multiversal Prison; that's the whole point.

´where is the change in Quality itself

 

[SweetDao]

Here's an image to help you understand;

Unironically, I just checked, and this image confuses me a lot (granted, I didn't check everything that happened before).

For the "first part" of the explanation, you're saying that "infinite dreams" exist, which is above a normal quality that was established before (I assume) and therefore every dream is now a layer into High 1-A, right?

Just so we're sharing the same view, when you say "layers into High 1-A" you're simply saying "layers inside A SINGLE High 1-A hierarchy", right?

For the "second part", I feel like "expanding from within" the realms doesn't grant any higher level of quality, simply a bigger degree of what it was before.

However, the Ultimate Reality may exist as a higher quality compared to the rest.

Checking the rest (and not wanting to do a long ass message to clog the thread), I feel like the Delusional Creator is within a higher quality, but I highly doubt the "supra-quality" or whatever bullshit that means.

Again, I just checked a few messages above, so feel free to correct me if I misunderstood.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Unironically, I just checked, and this image confuses me a lot (granted, I didn't check everything that happened before).

For the "first part" of the explanation, you're saying that "infinite dreams" exist, which is above a normal quality that was established before (I assume) and therefore every dream is now a layer into High 1-A, right?

Just so we're sharing the same view, when you say "layers into High 1-A" you're simply saying "layers inside A SINGLE High 1-A hierarchy", right?

Yes

For the "second part", I feel like "expanding from within" the realms doesn't grant any higher level of quality, simply a bigger degree of what it was before.

However, the Ultimate Reality may exist as a higher quality compared to the rest.

Yes.

Checking the rest (and not wanting to do a long ass message to clog the thread), I feel like the Delusional Creator is within a higher quality, but I highly doubt the "supra-quality" or whatever bullshit that means.

The Delusional Creator is not Supra, it's just endless Meta-Extensions.

The example I used before;

• If you have Character A, and they transcend a Dream that is Baseline 1-A, they are 1 Layer into 1-A.
• But, if you have Character A, and they transcend a Dream that has an Infinite 1-A Hierarchy, then they are High 1-A.

Both rely on R > F; however, how grand that R > F is changes based on what it's being applied to.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Disregarding the content and quality of the dreams themself is like claiming there’s no distinction between transcending an ordinary universe and one with endless higher dimensions.

 

[SweetDao]

But, if you have Character A, and they transcend a Dream that has an Infinite 1-A Hierarchy, then they are High 1-A.

That "dream that has an infinite 1-A hierarchy", what's the quality of the 1-A hierarchy? A set of dreams?

So basically, a "bigger dream" that encompass "an infinite hierarchy of dreams" ?

Because, even thought it is not official, this fall directly into this FAQ:

Q: Is having multiple 1-A hierarchies, each transcending the last, enough to reach High 1-A?

A: Not generally, no. Just as High 1-B can include new hierarchies of different cardinals that vastly exceed the last, 1-A can include equivalents, where instead of each step corresponding to a larger infinite cardinal, it corresponds to a higher world which sees lower ones as fiction. It can even include equivalents of Low 1-A, although in practice this is rare. Fundamentally, 1-A includes all objects whose power is based on having a superior quality, in the same way that lower tiers are objects whose power is based on having a superior quantity. High 1-A is only reached when the key distinguishing point moves from qualities to meta-qualities.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

That "dream that has an infinite 1-A hierarchy", what's the quality of the 1-A hierarchy? A set of dreams?

No, it can have any quality. Apophatic theology, beings who are the foundation of entire hierarchies, multiverses with their own Torrents inside of them, any type of realm that can be imagined.

 

[SweetDao]

No, it can have any quality. Apophatic theology, beings who are the foundation of entire hierarchies, multiverses with their own Torrents inside of them, any type of realm that can be imagined.

I mean, technically speaking, if you're just "a layer above whatever X hierarchy is", it's not because there are an infinite number of hierarchies having the same level that it changes anything to you. It's not because you transcend a 1-A apple or infinite baskets of infinite 1-A fruits, each different from each other, that it changes your rating. It seems more impressive, but it's not.

What I mean, in simpler term, a 1-A being can be whatever quality it wants, it would still be below the most baseline level of High 1-A.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Am I making this difficult to understand? Okay, how about this?

• Reality 1
  
  • You, Human (10-B)
  • Infinite Dimensional Universe. (High 1-B)
  • God sees the Universe as a dream. (1-A)
  • Infinite Higher Gods. (1-A+)
  • Author, wrote the book everything in. (High 1-A)

What Tier do you get for transcending reality? Well, it depends on the type, how the verse treats it, right? If reality only contained a single universe, transcending it might make you Low 1-C? What about this one? It has High 1-A beings in it. Well, in that case, transcending that Reaity would make you High 1-A. No set Tier for Reality.

• Reality 2
  • You, Transcended Reality 1, Human Again (High 1-A)
  • Protagonist, Background Characters aren't even written (1 Layer into High 1-A)
  • Imagination, Protagonist exists within it (2 Layers into High 1-A)
  • God uses Apophatic Theology (Meta-High 1-A)

Is Reality 2 suddenly just 1 Layer into High 1-A? That doesn't make sense, you have to trasncend a Apophatic being, beyond High 1-A Beings, who are beyond my entire original Reality just to reach it's top.

• Reality 3
  
  • You, Transcend Reality 2, Human Again (Meta-High 1-A)
  • There's a Structure like Reality 1 Here, you're at the bottom (
    
    • Infinite Dimensional Universe.
    • God sees the Universe as a dream.
    • Infinite Higher Gods.
    • Author, wrote the book everything in.
• Reality 4
  
  • You, Transcended Reality 3
  • Infinite Multiverse
  • Multiverse containing the first Multiverse.
  • Hierarchy of Multiverses.
  • God uses Apophatic Theology
• Reality 5
• Reality 6
• Reality 7
• Reality 8

Is this making sense now?

 

[SweetDao]

Is this making sense now?

Well, at least I understand the situation now, yeah. Maybe it was me, but the drawing you did was definitely confusing.

Do those examples already exist within the verse? Like, is it a "fixed" existence or simply a possibility? Above in the conversation, you stated this:

The fourth and fifth layers make it so that, within each dream, any delusion can become reality for that level.

For example, imagine a High 1-A being trapped in this infinite stack of dreams. If they transcend one dream, they’ve moved up one layer into High 1-A; transcend another, and they're two layers deep, and so on.

But if each dream can contain its own complete cosmology, then every time you transcend a dream, you could land in a new reality, each with its own High 1-A hierarchy. So, escaping one dream just brings you to another, making each transcendence a Meta-Qualitative one.

But that's the problem, or again, maybe I'm misunderstanding.

Let's take the exact example you did.

High 1-A being is trapped within infinite dreams. He transcends one, falls into a higher one, infinitely, just layers into a single H1A hierarchy.

Now, you postulate that those same dreams (which beforehand were just layers into High 1-A) now have their own cosmology, which I take as exactly what you explained above with your "Realities" examples.

Thing is, I don't think this is the sole interpretation you can have for this. Each Dream has a set tier, no matter what happens inside it. The "higher-level" hierarchy here is the hierarchy of reality, not the stuff that happens WITHIN the dreams. I'll make a shitty paint just to illustrate what I mean. Here.

I think I'm starting to understand your point of view, I see where you're coming from and where you're going. Imo, the hierarchy would be +1 (quality level), whatever the first dream can do. Personally, I would accept it if you can show that the most baseline dream can have "infinite level of qualities" within it. Therefore, making whatever exists above it (not the dreams, but something like the hierarchy or Delusional guy) "supra-quality" level.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I think I'm starting to understand your point of view, I see where you're coming from and where you're going. Imo, the hierarchy would be +1 (quality level), whatever the first dream can do. Personally, I would accept it if you can show that the most baseline dream can have "infinite level of qualities" within it.

Yes, that's what I've been trying to say.

The whole, the 1st Baseline Dream, can copy the entire Cosmology inside itself, including this whole dream scenario, and realms and Apophatic Beings beyond it.

Therefore, making whatever exists above it (not the dreams, but something like the hierarchy or Delusional guy) "supra-quality" level.

Yes, Torrents can break free of all this, which is why I said they're Supra.

 

[SweetDao]

The whole, the 1st Baseline Dream, can copy the entire Cosmology inside itself, including this whole dream scenario, and realms and Apophatic Beings beyond it.

And just so we're crystal clear about it. You mean that the first dream has "meta-meta-meta-meta...qualities" (endlessly) inside it, right? With all the dreams being inside a yet higher hierarchy of "higher-quality" that they simply partake in?

If so, okay, I can somewhat understand the argument, but out of the sheer complexity/convoluted aspect of the stuff, I'd only agree with a possibly imo.

(Edited a bit because I was confusing)

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

And just so we're crystal clear about it. You mean that the first dream has "meta-meta-meta-meta...qualities" (endlessly) inside it, right? With each dreams being inside a yet higher "quality-level" that they don't possess?

Everything we've discussed up to this point is part of this thing called the Multiversal Prison.

The 1st Dream can have its own Multiversal Prison.

It was clarified before the Delusional Mind stuff started happening; the MC was still in the first dream;

Su Zhou was sealed at the farthest end of that infinite dream.

If so, okay, I can somewhat understand the argument, but out of the sheer complexity of the stuff, I'd only agree with a possibly imo.

Yeah, I didn't think I would have to break it down so much.

 

[SweetDao]

Yeah, I didn't think I would have to break it down so much.

It's high-tier stuff and a lot of verbiage, so yeah, my bad on that.

 

[Livinaa]

It's very straightforward. In the original thread, the gap between the first dream and escaping the Multiversal Prison is that between Meta-quality and Meta-meta-quality. Everyone agrees with this in that thread.

Here, the Delusional Mind Creator made it so that everything from the first dream to escaping the Multiversal Prison can all happen in one layer of dream, with escaping the Multiversal Prison (gaining additional meta-quality) leading into a higher dream with their own higher dream layers and Multiversal Prison. Repeat that endlessly, and you have endless meta-meta-...-meta-quality.

It was pretty confusing at first since you never brought up the Delusional Mind Creator in the original thread.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

I don't know how you get it to Supra quality before this CRT.

Anyways, lean to agree.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

I see, so the logic is that each dream now has its own hierarchy of R>F with Infinite Eternal Return. Based on what Infinite Eternal Return does, I agree then . Am I seeing it right?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I see, so the logic is that each dream now has its own hierarchy of R>F with Infinite Eternal Return. Based on what Infinite Eternal Return does, I agree then . Am I seeing it right?

Yeah

 

[Orioreeem]

Don’t try to join their wanks

If you disagree with tiers for WOD and Gu then make a downgrade thread. This is just not needed here.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

@DarkDragonMedeus @Catzlaflame

Already got input from Qawsed, and you two helped with the first part, so any input here would be appreciated.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Am I making this difficult to understand? Okay, how about this?

• Reality 1
  
  • You, Human (10-B)
  • Infinite Dimensional Universe. (High 1-B)
  • God sees the Universe as a dream. (1-A)
  • Infinite Higher Gods. (1-A+)
  • Author, wrote the book everything in. (High 1-A)

• Reality 2
  • You, Transcended Reality 1, Human Again (High 1-A)
  • Protagonist, Background Characters aren't even written (1 Layer into High 1-A)
  • Imagination, Protagonist exists within it (2 Layers into High 1-A)
  • God uses Apophatic Theology (Meta-High 1-A)

• Reality 3
  
  • You, Transcend Reality 2, Human Again (Meta-High 1-A)
    • Infinite Dimensional Universe.
    • God sees the Universe as a dream.
    • Infinite Higher Gods.
    • Author, wrote the book everything in.
  • You, Transcended Reality 3
  • Infinite Multiverse
  • Multiverse containing the first Multiverse.
  • Hierarchy of Multiverses.
  • God uses Apophatic Theology
• Reality 5
• Reality 6
• Reality 7
• Reality 8

Is this making sense now?

I guess that makes sense.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Bump

 

[Voidnether]

Yeah, I don't think this would be anything supra-quality related where it's the highest hierarchy in High 1-A that you can get. The only possibility of it happening if it was something similar to the highest hierarchy of 1-A+ which would be VNU at the least given Multiverse (Type 4) is actually expandable until High 1-A+ if it operates within the framework of logical spaces

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Yeah, I don't think this would be anything supra-quality related where it's the highest hierarchy in High 1-A that you can get.

You literally can get things higher than Supra-Quality; otherwise, WOD wouldn't get their rating.

 

[Voidnether]

You literally can get things higher than Supra-Quality; otherwise, WOD wouldn't get their rating.

Infinite supra-quality does not exist as that would create another hierarchy, supra-quality in its purest definition means it's the highest hierarchy possible. You can ask Agnaa or Phoenks or whoever it is but yeah it does not