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Your Favorite Character VS The HST



1)

First things First

Just because something has one-off abilities that are not often shown, doesn't mean they are outliers or inconsistent. A lot of things relating to Haki (Including observation) were one-off and not brought up again for hundereds of chapters/still haven't been brought up again. And there are no anti-feats for abilities. Even the "How doesn't Tsuna predict everyone's moves if his precog is so good?" is explained as the opponent being too skilled for it to be effective (Genkishi) and/or everyone else having a form of Hyper Intuition as well, just with less batant feats than Tsuna's.
2) "At best, Kenbunshoku Haki and HI would counter each other."

That's exactly what I was arguing. I was countering your previous point of Sensory Haki having more abilities/being better. My original statement was that they cancel each other out.

You also mentioned things Sensory Haki does that isn't precognition, just as I did. So I don't know what point you were trying to make there.

3) The inconsistent part isn't true, and everything else is very opinionated. Moving on.

4) As I said in reference to this point, a lot of KHR characters can do that, just with smaller range.

But, with this you seemed to have missed my point, as I actually see Tsuna's feat as being more impressive. Why? Because he didn't sense or see anything. With just his weaksauce base Hyper Intuition he knows what a dot on a screen represents and can accurately point it out. Hyper Intuition has a lot of feats like this and more derived from the literal meaning of the word "Intuition"

"the ability to understand something immediately, without the need for conscious reasoning."

Even without literally reading minds he's been able to correctly decipher his opponents thoughts on multiple occasions. Knowing when people are telling the truth or bluffing with just "Intuition"

5) "And several Logia's out haxx him and Law can simply swipe and it's over, his spatial slashing has zero travel speed. He cuts and that's it."

Any hax gets P-nulled into oblivion by Natsu, and Tsuna has his own spatial hax, if he chooses to make a black hole.

6)

AP Stuff

Okay I'll shoot you some bail here and wank other prime 6-B's of being capable of one-shoting casual old 7-Teraton Whitebeard.

^Even giving them this much consideration it's still nowhere near enough.

Tsuna's father tanked full power punches from Tsuna while in base form and shrugged them off like they were nothing (And this is the Tsuna who already scales to 12 teratons), he then immediately one-shots Tsuna after going into DWFM.

Tsuna later fights him again after becoming stronger and they fight on par. Tsuna then fights Jager and is two-shot by him. After seeing the fight Reborn even tells Tsuna to not even try to fight him because the difference between them is far too vast for him to win. This is something Reborn has never told Tsuna before, so the difference between Tsuna and Jager is likely bigger than the difference between Tsuna and every other opponent he's faced, most of which were multiple times stronger than him.

Of course, Tsuna eventually becomes strong enough to defeat Jager, and Ultimate DWFM Tsuna could one-shot Bermuda von Veckenschtei who two-shot Oath Flame Tsuna, which is the version which defeated Jager.
 
Dimitri can easily solo the HST, he's too greasy sweet to be defeated by any of these losers. And if anyone insults his suit, hoo boy it gets 1,000 times worse for the HST.
 
Naeblis495 said:
Jericho Swain : Due to soul manip and mind hax resistance , he would do some work in OP and naruto , but get roflstomped passively in Bleach .
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Nice someone else mentioned League. Depending on his soul resistance he might actually resist most Bleachs RC. If his soul resistance is on the level of Leblanc's soul manip and resistance that is. Funny thing is Leblanc resisted something that is exactly like soul crush (something that mordekaiser should get since it literally comes from his body) and is in that is in the millions due to morde's body being made up of generations of souls. Still loses in the end due to AP difference though.

Minato: likely reks most of OP. we know how he does in Naruto and does ok in Bleach up to a point. If he is an Edo OP cant put him down at all.

Itachi: haxxes most of OP without them even noticing him as an Edo their AP advantage becomes useless. Same with minato for bleach to a lesser point.

Kushina: she has some hax so can fight way above her weight class but ultimately would get beaten I believe by all 3.

Hagoromo: destroys OP, likely destroys Naruto does the best in bleach up to a point his current circumstances and hax make him hard to put down.

High noon Lucian: His AP is low but he has a good counter to bleach and Edos funnily enough. Has quite a few defensive tools making him hard to put down for most of the verses but ultiately wont get to far in any of them due to being pretty specialised in taking down spirits and Bleach high level spirits are too strong even if most of them cant survive EE. Though he is in need of a resistance update once I get to doing the Black mist CRT.

Eternum Nocturne: passive powernull destroys Naruto, OP and most of Bleach. His speed destroys everyone here and his mind hax, soul hax and range is far above anyone here. A verse stomp.

Aatrox: Pretty sure he stomps everyone here due to his conceptual erasue and powernull hax being 5-D. Only issue is AP due to SK. He cant be killed ultimately but destroying his body means he cant fight.

Zilea: Out haxes everyone here and his BFR outside of a 2-A universe is pretty insane.

Ata: He isnt updated yet but with world of Death BFR to a void he destroys most people here, only problems are Hagoromo, yhwach and SK due to their hax. Also he is meant to be 5-A in his true body key, like I said not updated yet.

Daruma: Just like Ata blitzes and stomps most people with sheer AP but Hags, yhwach and SK for the same reasons as Ata oh and Gerard due to the miracle I guess.

I like a lot of characters lol.
 
PsychoWarper said:
Cant PW Accel just rip out someones soul?
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He can, but he can't destroy it, at least he hasn't showed it, even if he had all the reasons to destroy Coronzon's soul instantly, he didn't do it, so i think he can't.
 
probably not but since he is powered by one of the Gods of the Warp which does dimensional travel as a basic thing I assume that they would simply warp him back.
 
XDragnoir said:
PsychoWarper said:
Cant PW Accel just rip out someones soul?
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He can, but he can't destroy it, at least he hasn't showed it, even if he had all the reasons to destroy Coronzon's soul instantly, he didn't do it, so i think he can't.
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Yeah with Low-Godly Regen even if the soul is pulled out it will just regenerate from the soul. Does Accelerator's winged form have a time limit?
 
Dark Schneider-probably solos or loses to soul king

Kamen rider decade-passive 2B erasure gg

pagasus tenma-solos

Rimuru tempest-solos

Ataru-loses
 
We can use NLF to say that it has no limit since he didn't show one or we can say that yes, but is unknown.
 
Rocker1189 said:
probably not but since he is powered by one of the Gods of the Warp which does dimensional travel as a basic thing I assume that they would simply warp him back.
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Then I guess the only few ways Naruto-verse would win is to disintegrate him using Truth-Seeking Orbs, Kaguya's ETSB, or Infinite Tsukuyomi.
 
XDragnoir said:
We can use NLF to say that it has no limit since he didn't show one or we can say that yes, but is unknown.
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Does Accelerator's Winged Form still depends on his choker?
 
I'll use only some of my favorite characters

Dante (Devil May Cry) = Destroys Naruto and One Piece, destroys most of Bleach but I dunno about Soul King, he resists the Underworld's Soul Hax so I guess he has a chance

Sasuke Uchiha (New Era) = lol no, cleans OP but stops at Naruto's God Tiers

Noctis Lucis Caelum = Destroys OP, can win against Jin Obito at best in Naruto, gets destroyed in Bleach

Trevor Belmont = Destroys OP, Naruto and probably Bleach

Trevor Belmont (Castlevania - Netflix) = Stomped by Kid Naruto lol

D (Vampire Hunter D) = Mind haxes into oblivion OP, Naruto, Bleach and you can include Dragon Ball too, he slaps
 
Eiji Hino:Stomp One Piece, Void hax and bettter Kage Bunshin Naruto and lose to Bleach God Tier.

Sougo Tokiwa: Stomp all of them at the same time.

Shirou Emiya: Beat the mid tier of OP, can cheese out a win with UBW but shouldn't goes above Mid Tier, same for Naruto and get RC in Bleach.
 
Then IMO this is how it goes. Accelerator VS Edo-Tensei

Base Accelerator:

Accelerator starts AP stomping everyone, but Edo-Tensei constantly regenerates and he'll eventually run out of battery charge (Post-headshot). Edo Hashirama could possibly use his Poisonous pollen flower jutsu to force Accelerator to shield himself from the now-poisonous air, he would eventually run out of oxygen and then pass out.

Angelic Accelerator would stomp everyone, if it doesn't have a time limit, then it will become an endless battle. If it does have a time-limit, he will likely run out of stamina/battery at that point and he will get AP Stomped. (9-C base Dura oof)
 
Oblivion Of The Endless said:
Platinum Accel has 4-B dura even without shields
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What I mean is that if PW Accel does have a time-limit (in the sense of after passing that limit the transformation will disappear) after passing that limit he would get ap stomped since he'll likely be out of stamina/battery charge in his choker and would no longer be able to use his vector shield or his other powers.
 
Mega Man X: he just onnidirectionally EE's the entire HST before they can react (even those with Precog) and calls it a day.

Zero (Mega Man X: He might fail to solo Bleach seeing as he doesn't have that BS AOE X has, meaning that I doubt he can even beat Yhwach and Soul King.

Kenshiro: Might actually do well in OP (possibly solo). But he can't solo Naruto or Bleach. They're too much for him... :(
 
Anyway if PW Accel doesn't have a time-limit then it will become an endless battle between Accel and Edo-Tensei zombies. Accel can't permanently kill them but the Edos can't damage him.
 
Hmm, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Sans (Undertale) yet.

Well he can likely soulhax some characters but he will get out-soulhaxed by the Bleach characters, or Madara drops a meteor on him.
 
I feel like Kharn would be BFR'd by Obito or the Rinnegan Users.

Depends on if Khorne decides to call BS on that, considering Khorne wants blood he prolly will
 
Junko Enoshima: AI Junko has Law Manip that must be obeyed for those who don't have resistance to said ability. Anyone who violates it will recieved a death penalty. Dunno how far she can go with One Piece and Naruto, but I'm sure as hell she ain't soloing Bleach.

Nagito Komaeda: It takes more than luck to survive the HST Nagito, sorry dude you're out.

Lelouch vi Britannia: If he plays his cards very well, Lelouch can go quite far in One Piece and Naruto. He got pretty damn good Mindhax which works on the number of the entire collective consciousness of Humanity. Bleach is a no since he can't even see the majority of the casts.

Avenger (Demon King Nobunaga): She burns the HST to crisps and collects their skulls as sake cups.

Alina Gray: Type 1 Abstract and quite potent Mindhax, powernul, and RW. I can definitely say she solo One Piece. A bit of Toss up with Naruto and Bleach tho due them having pretty good hax, although I doubt they can kill her due to Type 8.

Homura Akemi: She solo the HST no contest. And no, her 2-A key isn't even needed here, the 7-B one is more than enough. Her "true-self" exists within a place where even an Omnipresent entity throughout two Multiverse cannot reach, but she solo the HST mostly because the infamous Mindhax.
 
Beast Zero Gudako said:
Avenger (Demon King Nobunaga): She burns the HST to crisps and collects their skulls as sake cups.
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She certainly has the AP but I dont see what makes her capable of permanently beating the bleach God tiers her strongest stuff require divinity and her low range means that she cant straight up destroy a verse.
 
Rocker1189 said:
She certainly has the AP but I dont see what makes her capable of permanently beating the bleach God tiers her strongest stuff require divinity and her low range means that she cant straight up destroy a verse.
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By Nasuverse standard, Soul King can be classified as God and anyone who is direct related to him should have some bit of "divinity" in them. Him, Yhwach, (being his son) Pernida, Mimihagi and Gerard (being actual part of him) are qualify to have "divinity" trait by Nasuverse standard.

The only person who probably survive Nobunaga is Aizen. But he is becoming her punching bag later on.
 
Ren Amamiya / Yu Narukami / Makoto Yuki : Outhax, and stronger AP.

Elizabeth (Persona): Same as before.

Shining One: Even with this outdated, horrid ass profile, 5D mindhax says hi, along with Transduality. That's just in his first key, too.

Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel): Outhaxes, higher AP.

Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel): Probably loses, I'm unsure about the potency of soul crush. If not, still loses, Yhwach is too powerful.

Hibiki Kohaku: Stomps, 2-A / Low 1-C resistances and soulhax.

Makoto Naegi: Rip.
 
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