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Yu-Gi-Oh! General Discussion

Is basically Kharn the Betrayer, its immune to all spell and monster effects and forces the opponent into pure martial combat, and if they attempt anything other than that they instantly die, and it also steals half of the opponent's AP
Ah, you mean the retrain! Lol, I was thinking about the old ass monster Bandith Keith used, that's why it came as odd that it would be busted given it only had an acceptable attack for the time (and even then not worth 2 tributes).

Kharn is from Warharmmer, right?
 
Ah, you mean the retrain! Lol, I was thinking about the old ass monster Bandith Keith used, that's why it came as odd that it would be busted given it only had an acceptable attack for the time (and even then not worth 2 tributes).

Kharn is from Warharmmer, right?
Yeah the retrain is busted in a vs sense

And yeah
 
I miss this game so damn much sometimes, but it's totally dead where I live. I know Master Duel is available, but it's just not the same.
Yeah its just barely alive here too, the only thing really keeping it up is the place i play at allows proxies for upcoming sets in non-tournament duels so people can test them out before theyre released

I actually have a stupid combo set up with the Photon Howling card thats being releaased soon
 
Yeah its just barely alive here too, the only thing really keeping it up is the place i play at allows proxies for upcoming sets in non-tournament duels so people can test them out before theyre released

I actually have a stupid combo set up with the Photon Howling card thats being releaased soon
Can you share it?
 
It is surprising. I guess it may be impeded by that it's difficult to scale a card game & the multiple decades of material to scour & check.
It's less that it's difficult and morw that no one has actually sat down to do it yet, me and jinx have been busy with other things but we plan on working together to get this verse cleaned up
 
Pharaoh's memories is cool, but I think it's carried by the ceremonial duel (assuming you think it's part of the arc)

Also carried by the simps for Mana
I agree yeah

Ceremonial Duel > Waking The Dragons in its entirety imo

Also the mana simps are weirdos
 
That's really cool but didn't the maker of yugioh confirm that horakhty made the yugioh verse? I have the books and db translated them too
Horakhty was a creator from one story. Yugioh have many more Creator Gods who created their own verses (Ryu Ge Mistva, Metaphys Executor, the Ogdoadic gods, numeron dragon, ect).

Meanwhile, the Ten Thousand Dragon is the author pen that weaved the entirety of Yugioh OCG into the form of the cards. Sorta like Featherine-like figure of Yugioh, but lower tier I supposed.

each cards hold a 2-B multiverse.

lets-talk-about-yugiohs-strongest-monster-in-lore-ten-v0-ouuuy9dtbakg1.png
 
Horakhty was a creator from one story. Yugioh have many more Creator Gods who created their own verses (Ryu Ge Mistva, Metaphys Executor, the Ogdoadic gods, numeron dragon, ect).

Meanwhile, the Ten Thousand Dragon is the author pen that weaved the entirety of Yugioh OCG into the form of the cards. Sorta like Featherine-like figure of Yugioh, but lower tier I supposed.

each cards hold a 2-B multiverse.

lets-talk-about-yugiohs-strongest-monster-in-lore-ten-v0-ouuuy9dtbakg1.png
1-A yugioh??? gimme
 
Low 1-C horakhty.. send the scan pls
I think I accidentally deleted the scans but you can find them in db's yugi vs ash episode at 18:27-18-32 and 29:04-29:07
Horakhty was a creator from one story. Yugioh have many more Creator Gods who created their own verses (Ryu Ge Mistva, Metaphys Executor, the Ogdoadic gods, numeron dragon, ect).

Meanwhile, the Ten Thousand Dragon is the author pen that weaved the entirety of Yugioh OCG into the form of the cards. Sorta like Featherine-like figure of Yugioh, but lower tier I supposed.

each cards hold a 2-B multiverse.

lets-talk-about-yugiohs-strongest-monster-in-lore-ten-v0-ouuuy9dtbakg1.png
Your forgetting that the author of the entire series stated that horakhty created the yugioh verse and that only her light of creation could erase/destroy zorc

Making ten thousand dragon is actual creator of the yugioh verse would go against the creator's wishes unless he changed his mind

Horakhty is also completely unique by being given her own type (something that the creator specifically did for horakhty if I remember correctly) he specifically made the type "creator God" and ten thousand dragon does not have that

The translations are also in the db video between yugi and ash
 
I think I accidentally deleted the scans but you can find them in db's yugi vs ash episode at 18:27-18-32 and 29:04-29:07

Your forgetting that the author of the entire series stated that horakhty created the yugioh verse and that only her light of creation could erase/destroy zorc

Making ten thousand dragon is actual creator of the yugioh verse would go against the creator's wishes unless he changed his mind

Horakhty is also completely unique by being given her own type (something that the creator specifically did for horakhty if I remember correctly) he specifically made the type "creator God" and ten thousand dragon does not have that

The translations are also in the db video between yugi and ash
More like Horakhty created the manga verse where Yugi, Kaiba and the duelists reside in.
There are more to Yugioh than just the anime verse. The OCG lore verse for example, were not made by Kazuki Takahashi, they are distinct franchise with their own stories, authorized by other Konami employees.

And let not forget, Yugioh as a whole is not just a product of Takahashi-sensei, it's also product of Konami as well. This is especially true in this case. DSOD was canonical to the original manga made by Takahashi-sensei, while the anime deviated from it and gotten written by other authors like Shin Yoshida.

What I want to say is: Takahashi-sensei's word is not final, especially in a franchise like Yugioh that have shitloads of Creator Gods that created their own setting:
+Numeron Dragon created his own small multiverse
+Metaphys Executor is a walking talking multiverse
+Ogdoadic Gods created their own universe in their own cosmology
+Ryu Ge Mistva (Although I just checked again, so far the lore only said he created the "world" which seem to be the planet)
+Regenesis Lord created his own "world" (also need more lore to regard this "world" to be universe)
lets-talk-about-yugiohs-strongest-monster-in-lore-ten-v0-gmnyd3ljdakg1.webp
 
Intriguing. Maybe the evidence regarding this should be amassed to see if it passes muster by our standards.

Ten Thousand Dragon's feat is only this scan

lets-talk-about-yugiohs-strongest-monster-in-lore-ten-v0-d9vwrzqv2akg1.webp

仰テン!?① デザインの秘密は「超ひも理論」!!
Astonishing!? 1: The secret of the design is "Superstring Theory"!!

威厳のある堂々とした黄金のドラゴンと、その周りを覆う宇宙。豪快に描かれた神秘的な「万物創世龍」のイラストは、「万物は全て同じひもで出来ている」という考えに基づいた「超ひも理論」をベースにデザインされているのだ。「ひも」を現したドラゴンが、多数の線によって表現された宇宙を吐き出しているそのイラストには、「万物」を線で描き、「創世」するという想いが込められている。「超ひも理論」が持つ壮大な理論を取り入れた「万物創世龍」は、これからの「OCG」の世界を創る最高のシンボルとなるだろう。
A majestic, dignified golden dragon and the universe that envelops it. The boldly drawn, mysterious illustration of "Ten Thousand Dragon" is designed based on "Superstring Theory," which stems from the idea that "all things are made of the same strings." In this illustration, where a dragon representing a "string" spews out a universe expressed by numerous lines, the concept of drawing "all things" (banbutsu) with lines and "creating the world" (sousei) is embedded. "Ten Thousand Dragon," which incorporates the grand scale of "Superstring Theory," will likely become the supreme symbol that creates the future world of the "OCG."
奥に描かれたカードの裏面 / 線で描かれた宇宙
The back of the card drawn in the background / The universe drawn with lines
lets-talk-about-yugiohs-strongest-monster-in-lore-ten-v0-rco9zh0g8akg1.webp


「万物創世龍」から吐き出された宇宙をよく見てみると、線が線によって描かれている。これは平行線を引き重ねて描く「ハッチング」という技法が使用されているのだ。多数の「線(ひも)」で構成された宇宙を描く「万物創世龍」が、「OCG」カードの中に存在しているという構図が表現されているらしい。
If you look closely at the universe spewed out by "Ten Thousand Dragon," you can see it is drawn line by line. This uses a technique called "hatching," where parallel lines are drawn over one another. It seems to express a composition where "Ten Thousand Dragon," which draws a universe made up of many "lines (strings)," exists inside an "OCG" card.


全身を覆う鎧の正体は”ペン”!!
The true identity of the armor covering its entire body is a "pen"!!

デザインの元となった「超ひも理論」において、重要な要素となるのが「線(ひも)」だ。そしてその線を描き出すイメージを表現したのが、「万物創世龍」の身体を覆っている多数の「ペン」である。「万物創世龍」自身をペンに見立てて、このモンスターが幾多もの線を描き、重ね合わされる事で「OCG」の世界を創世していくという神秘的かつ壮大な物語が、この1枚のイラストに詰まってい。
In the "Superstring Theory" that serves as the basis for the design, an important element is "lines (strings)." And what expresses the image of drawing those lines are the numerous "pens" covering the body of "Ten Thousand Dragon." Likening "
Ten Thousand Dragon" itself to a pen, this single illustration is packed with a mysterious and grand story of this monster drawing countless lines, and by overlapping them, creating the world of the "OCG."

So what do we learn from this?
It is that the Ten Thousand Dragon drawn all of the cards in the Yugioh world.
In fact, Ten Thousand Dragon is Superstring that composed of all cards in existence.
And that the back of the card, is it's technique "Hatching" which weaved the new card into existence
257px-Back-EN.png

Thus it mean it's also the creator of these universe/multiverse cards
lets-talk-about-yugiohs-strongest-monster-in-lore-ten-v0-ouuuy9dtbakg1.png
 
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New lores are fascinating. Vidolium seem to be a potential 5-B. So far, the feats seem vague.
Hope they continue it in the next VBX volume.
 
Horakhty was a creator from one story. Yugioh have many more Creator Gods who created their own verses (Ryu Ge Mistva, Metaphys Executor, the Ogdoadic gods, numeron dragon, ect).

Meanwhile, the Ten Thousand Dragon is the author pen that weaved the entirety of Yugioh OCG into the form of the cards. Sorta like Featherine-like figure of Yugioh, but lower tier I supposed.

each cards hold a 2-B multiverse.

lets-talk-about-yugiohs-strongest-monster-in-lore-ten-v0-ouuuy9dtbakg1.png
More like Horakhty created the manga verse where Yugi, Kaiba and the duelists reside in.
There are more to Yugioh than just the anime verse. The OCG lore verse for example, were not made by Kazuki Takahashi, they are distinct franchise with their own stories, authorized by other Konami employees.

And let not forget, Yugioh as a whole is not just a product of Takahashi-sensei, it's also product of Konami as well. This is especially true in this case. DSOD was canonical to the original manga made by Takahashi-sensei, while the anime deviated from it and gotten written by other authors like Shin Yoshida.

What I want to say is: Takahashi-sensei's word is not final, especially in a franchise like Yugioh that have shitloads of Creator Gods that created their own setting:
+Numeron Dragon created his own small multiverse
+Metaphys Executor is a walking talking multiverse
+Ogdoadic Gods created their own universe in their own cosmology
+Ryu Ge Mistva (Although I just checked again, so far the lore only said he created the "world" which seem to be the planet)
+Regenesis Lord created his own "world" (also need more lore to regard this "world" to be universe)
lets-talk-about-yugiohs-strongest-monster-in-lore-ten-v0-gmnyd3ljdakg1.webp
All of that for ended up being non-meta or straight up awful to play with (said by Solfachord player who is thirsty to summon both Z-ARC and Accesscode Talker on the same turn)
 
More like Horakhty created the manga verse where Yugi, Kaiba and the duelists reside in.
There are more to Yugioh than just the anime verse. The OCG lore verse for example, were not made by Kazuki Takahashi, they are distinct franchise with their own stories, authorized by other Konami employees.

And let not forget, Yugioh as a whole is not just a product of Takahashi-sensei, it's also product of Konami as well. This is especially true in this case. DSOD was canonical to the original manga made by Takahashi-sensei, while the anime deviated from it and gotten written by other authors like Shin Yoshida.

What I want to say is: Takahashi-sensei's word is not final, especially in a franchise like Yugioh that have shitloads of Creator Gods that created their own setting:
+Numeron Dragon created his own small multiverse
+Metaphys Executor is a walking talking multiverse
+Ogdoadic Gods created their own universe in their own cosmology
+Ryu Ge Mistva (Although I just checked again, so far the lore only said he created the "world" which seem to be the planet)
+Regenesis Lord created his own "world" (also need more lore to regard this "world" to be universe)
lets-talk-about-yugiohs-strongest-monster-in-lore-ten-v0-gmnyd3ljdakg1.webp
I looked this up and the answers I got were in contradiction to your claim.

Horakhty wasn't just anime she was also in the manga

I know there are multiple creators but what you said didn't confirm your claim. Kazuki Takahashi is the creator of yugioh and as such owned it. It wasn't until later when different studios and writers were a thing and even then he's the ultimate authority even though he didn't decide literally everything

Wouldn't numeron dragon be complex multiversal as he made the spirit worlds which could be 5d?

Regenesis lord is a female and unfortunately at most scales to high universal due to being only able to make 1 universe at a time

Yes it is a universe (the art is clear and the lore was posted along with concept art)
 
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