Zenless Zone Zero Discussion Thread

[Sooshirohl]

It looks good, but there's really no interesting Stamina feat? Or at least nothing comparable to other characters.

ZZZ characters are just severely lacking in stamina feats unfortunately, we don't really have a lot of notable ones outside of a select few. even the more impressive ones we have are kind of just vague in their timing. for example, there's two feats where miyabi and banyue are fighting off continuous waves of ethereals, but the timeframe is never explicitly stated so we don't know how long either of them were actually fighting for

 

[Pyro9278]

ZZZ characters are just severely lacking in stamina feats unfortunately, we don't really have a lot of notable ones outside of a select few. even the more impressive ones we have are kind of just vague in their timing. for example, there's two feats where miyabi and banyue are fighting off continuous waves of ethereals, but the timeframe is never explicitly stated so we don't know how long either of them were actually fighting for

Could keeping up with the Ethereals be a Stamina feat? I mean, if the characters already scale with them in AP and speed, then I think they could do it with Stamina, assuming they fight for very long periods of time, of course.

 

[Sooshirohl]

Could keeping up with the Ethereals be a Stamina feat? I mean, if the characters already scale with them in AP and speed, then I think they could do it with Stamina, assuming they fight for very long periods of time, of course.

if there were more explicit showings of characters fighting ethereals for prolonged periods of time maybe, but it's pretty consistent throughout the game's story that a majority of characters aren't able to keep up with an ethereal's stamina. all the times we see ethereals get defeated usually involve either just completely overpowering an ethereal and killing it in a single go or wearing it down and eventually killing it through team effort

 

[Pyro9278]

if there were more explicit showings of characters fighting ethereals for prolonged periods of time maybe, but it's pretty consistent throughout the game's story that a majority of characters aren't able to keep up with an ethereal's stamina. all the times we see ethereals get defeated usually involve either just completely overpowering an ethereal and killing it in a single go or wearing it down and eventually killing it through team effort

Well, we'll just have to keep waiting. Who would have thought that in a verse with 8-C characters and a peak of 7-C, the main problem would be stamina, lol.

 

[Pyro9278]

Btw, would a fight between a young Gojo and Miyabi without equal speed be fair?

 

[Sooshirohl]

Btw, would a fight between a young Gojo and Miyabi without equal speed be fair?

i actually thought of doing a HI gojo vs. VH character a while back (i was thinking either miyabi or shungus)

unequal speed would probably help, with equal speed i think any ZZZ character would just instantly get turned to paste by red or blue. though apparently JJK stats are going under some major revisions atm so i'm not sure what their stats will look like by the time those are done

 

[Pyro9278]

i actually thought of doing a HI gojo vs. VH character a while back (i was thinking either miyabi or shungus)

unequal speed would probably help, with equal speed i think any ZZZ character would just instantly get turned to paste by red or blue. though apparently JJK stats are going under some major revisions atm so i'm not sure what their stats will look like by the time those are done

Could the shungus pierce Infinity? I haven't looked at its profile much, though.

They're constantly under review, but I don't think the changes would significantly affect Gojo's AP on this key. In fact, I think it was still 7-C before that. Besides, the LS from Blue and Red would still be a problem.

 

[Sooshirohl]

Could the shungus pierce Infinity? I haven't looked at its profile much, though.

They're constantly under review, but I don't think the changes would significantly affect Gojo's AP on this key. In fact, I think it was still 7-C before that. Besides, the LS from Blue and Red would still be a problem.

shungus has spatial manip, so her spatial slashes would be able to bypass infinity

we haven't applied it to the profiles yet but we do have this calc approved which buffs up the LS for the VH tier characters by a pretty substantial amount. blue would still be an issue since it still has higher LS but a 1.9x LS gap is definitely a lot better than a gazillion times LS gap lol

 

[LaserPrecision]

shungus has spatial manip, so her spatial slashes would be able to bypass infinity

we haven't applied it to the profiles yet but we do have this calc approved which buffs up the LS for the VH tier characters by a pretty substantial amount. blue would still be an issue since it still has higher LS but a 1.9x LS gap is definitely a lot better than a gazillion times LS gap lol

Isn't this a lowball since this calculation doesn't account for force at all, and only resting mass?

 

[Pyro9278]

we haven't applied it to the profiles yet but we do have this calc approved which buffs up the LS for the VH tier characters by a pretty substantial amount. blue would still be an issue since it still has higher LS but a 1.9x LS gap is definitely a lot better than a gazillion times LS gap lol

Shouldn't the time frame be used to stop the sphere? That could improve the results.

 

[Sooshirohl]

Isn't this a lowball since this calculation doesn't account for force at all, and only resting mass?

Shouldn't the time frame be used to stop the sphere? That could improve the results.

idk, i wasn't the one who made the calc lol, i'd probably ask naito about that since they were the one who made it

i would assume probably but i'm not knowledgeable enough in calcs to really concretely say anything

 

[Sooshirohl]

ngl i've been thinking about this feat more and the more i think about it the more i kinda realize how nuts it is

yanagi has to boost her own perception speed to even be able to react to a swing from miyabi's replica, and then the second miyabi gets de-transformed from being a bangboo she just instantly proceeds to blitz her own replica. like straight up kills it in a single go before it even has a chance to react or counterattack

not sure how much it applies to equal speed debates (since that's what a majority of debates here are) but like, she quite literally blitzes a replica of herself lol