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Zero (mega man X) vs Luke Skywalker
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Has Zero resisted mind hax on the level of mind haxing trillions at once? Because if not Luke mind haxes and calls it a day.
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@Wright Way
More or less. He is immune to the technopathy of the Mother Elf which could effortlessly mindhax the entire reploid population which is far beyond the population of humans (or 7 billion), which is easily superior to any technopathy feat in Star Wars, and is fairly comparable to even their telepathy feats. While Star Wars likely has superior TP, it's not by an uncomparable margin and Luke is absolutely not mind-haxing Zero (a character who goes for the kill right away) in the middle of a fight where Zero will have a massive upper hand (will get into why later), who wasn't even slightly affected by the Mother Elf, or later the Dark Elf. Luke's dura negating Electric Judgement wouldn't work on Zero either.
Most of Luke's other powers are relatively useless or resisted, namely Battle Meditation (This isn't a large scale battle and takes a lot of focus and seemingly being stationary to use at it's full capacity, as seen with that jedi Sora Bulq killed (forget his name), meaning it's suicide for Luke to use), Non-Corporeality (if Luke survives as a Ghost he can't do crap to Zero, and it's a win for Zero, whether or not he can kill Luke's Ghost (maybe he can, maybe he can't?)), Hypnosis (Zero doesn't need to sleep, even if he shuts down from exhaustion), Force Light (Zero isn't a force user), Blasts of Golden Flame (Zero is >> The Sun in heat resistance via scaling to far weaker Robot Masters, he'll likely just power through it), Aura-Sensing (He doesn't have an aura outside Maverick Zero, which he only goes into when exposed to the Maverick Virus, which likely won't apply here), Illusion Creation (Zero's eyes are cameras, not organic eyes. This is similar to why the Hero of Tython only brought T7-01 with him, instead of Lord Scourge or Kira Carsen, both of whom are logically more powerful than the droid, as many more sensory powers (in their case, possession or, you guessed it, MIND HAX, don't work nearly as well on non-organics, which is another reason Luke is not mind-haxing Zero). Resistance to Poison (Zero doesn't have Poison), and blocking his Psychic presence (Zero isn't a psychic last I checked)
They have a few powers in common, such as soul manipulation (I say they are relatively even here), elemental manipulation (though I say Zero takes the advantage here), and of course, their laser swords (We'll just call it even here for Verse Equalization)
On the contrary however, many of Zero's powers would be extremely effective. He has superior matter manipulation (Sure, Luke can alter a holocron, but Zero's cyber elves can change multiple people at the same time into objects made of presumably different compounds, which is a step up), Time Manipulation, Status effect inducement (I could see Luke shrugging off Paralysis, Transmutation and possibly Health Reduction (force healing and whatnot), but not Erasure, Intangibility (Mother Talzin is the only character with it in Star Wars as far as I know of), Absolute Zero (Luke could get out of it via telekinesis or heat manipulation, but it would take him a moment, while Zero is free), and on top of that his regen is superior (He should have High-Low regen normally via scaling to Copy X, and Cyber Elf healing is better)
I vote Zero Mid diff via resisting everything Luke has, while Luke doesn't even come close to resisting all of Zero's powers, and lastly, greater stamina.
More or less. He is immune to the technopathy of the Mother Elf which could effortlessly mindhax the entire reploid population which is far beyond the population of humans (or 7 billion), which is easily superior to any technopathy feat in Star Wars, and is fairly comparable to even their telepathy feats. While Star Wars likely has superior TP, it's not by an uncomparable margin and Luke is absolutely not mind-haxing Zero (a character who goes for the kill right away) in the middle of a fight where Zero will have a massive upper hand (will get into why later), who wasn't even slightly affected by the Mother Elf, or later the Dark Elf. Luke's dura negating Electric Judgement wouldn't work on Zero either.
Most of Luke's other powers are relatively useless or resisted, namely Battle Meditation (This isn't a large scale battle and takes a lot of focus and seemingly being stationary to use at it's full capacity, as seen with that jedi Sora Bulq killed (forget his name), meaning it's suicide for Luke to use), Non-Corporeality (if Luke survives as a Ghost he can't do crap to Zero, and it's a win for Zero, whether or not he can kill Luke's Ghost (maybe he can, maybe he can't?)), Hypnosis (Zero doesn't need to sleep, even if he shuts down from exhaustion), Force Light (Zero isn't a force user), Blasts of Golden Flame (Zero is >> The Sun in heat resistance via scaling to far weaker Robot Masters, he'll likely just power through it), Aura-Sensing (He doesn't have an aura outside Maverick Zero, which he only goes into when exposed to the Maverick Virus, which likely won't apply here), Illusion Creation (Zero's eyes are cameras, not organic eyes. This is similar to why the Hero of Tython only brought T7-01 with him, instead of Lord Scourge or Kira Carsen, both of whom are logically more powerful than the droid, as many more sensory powers (in their case, possession or, you guessed it, MIND HAX, don't work nearly as well on non-organics, which is another reason Luke is not mind-haxing Zero). Resistance to Poison (Zero doesn't have Poison), and blocking his Psychic presence (Zero isn't a psychic last I checked)
They have a few powers in common, such as soul manipulation (I say they are relatively even here), elemental manipulation (though I say Zero takes the advantage here), and of course, their laser swords (We'll just call it even here for Verse Equalization)
On the contrary however, many of Zero's powers would be extremely effective. He has superior matter manipulation (Sure, Luke can alter a holocron, but Zero's cyber elves can change multiple people at the same time into objects made of presumably different compounds, which is a step up), Time Manipulation, Status effect inducement (I could see Luke shrugging off Paralysis, Transmutation and possibly Health Reduction (force healing and whatnot), but not Erasure, Intangibility (Mother Talzin is the only character with it in Star Wars as far as I know of), Absolute Zero (Luke could get out of it via telekinesis or heat manipulation, but it would take him a moment, while Zero is free), and on top of that his regen is superior (He should have High-Low regen normally via scaling to Copy X, and Cyber Elf healing is better)
I vote Zero Mid diff via resisting everything Luke has, while Luke doesn't even come close to resisting all of Zero's powers, and lastly, greater stamina.
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7 billion? Cool, Palpatine mind haxed 2 trillion people. And Luke is comparable to him. There are Jedi capable of mind haxing droids and Luke would natural be superior to them at this point.BruceTheBatman said:
Luke is perfectly willing to mind hax off the start against non-force sensitives so yes he would start with it.
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It's likely way higher than 7 Billion, but irrelevent. Force Users can't mind hax droids nearly as well, as shown with T701
It's likely way higher than 7 Billion, but irrelevent. Force Users can't mind hax droids nearly as well, as shown with T701
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but he is referring to resistance to hax, not offensive haxThe Wright Way said:
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Old Republic Jedi couldn't do that very well. I remember an occasion where a Jedi from after that time frame was able to mind trick a droid with ease. Should be no different here.BruceTheBatman said:
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There's still no reason to believe that they're nearly as good with technopathy as they are with telepathy. Otherwise Yoda would've mind haxed droid armies (who are far less complex than Zero anyway)The Wright Way said:
Also, Zero isn't gonna stand there as Luke tries to mind hax someone with extreme resistance. He'll probably be diced before he could get the "You want to lay down your weapon" or such occurs
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