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Counter, Naruto can amp his speed with the body flicker, So naruto has the advantage in Speed.Speed
Speed is Equalized.
doesn't change the outcome because of Precog but just wanted to mention it.
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Counter, Naruto can amp his speed with the body flicker, So naruto has the advantage in Speed.Speed
Speed is Equalized.
You're not wrong, but Luffy can also amp with Geppo x Soru, so it would balance it out.Counter, Naruto can amp his speed with the body flicker, So naruto has the advantage in Speed.
doesn't change the outcome because of Precog but just wanted to mention it.
Scans? Naruto makes them for the sole purpose of diversions.Wax Clones are made out of wax completely different
Actually they do think that lol Multiple times they aren't divirsions
Go look at the passive Koby and Aisa who passively sensed people's emotions.Show Me feats of reading someones mind
To the extent of Luffy? I'll need proof.Intent sensing naruto also has that
Luffys precog didn't counter it
Scans of him taking internal fire attacks?Naruto can tank fire attacks
Internal damage is nowhere near a one shot
He still partially redirected it.Luffy was taking the attacks so no it does nothing
No, he has 10 minutes to recover his Haki after his time limit.Wrong Luffy has 10 minutes of Stamina he has never shown hours
Proof?Outstaminas is wrong,
Proof of otherwise? You don't give proof in any thread you take part in, you just say "no".Better sensing only in precog,
Strawman. I never said he does, I said he redirects it.He doesn't tank rasenshuriken at all,
Can Naruto fly? Can Naruto switch the direction of his attacks after they've been set off?More maneuverable is false he only has flight
Gear Fourth is physically stronger with flight.and other then that G4 is worse then his other forms
They're perfect constructs of the opponent but that's also irrelevant as his clones don't have the same amount of Chakra as Naruto himself and that's something Luffu would be able to tell.Wax Clones are made out of wax completely different
Actually they do think that lol Multiple times they aren't divirsions
He's correct, Luffy badly out senses Naruto. Even without Kenbunshoku Haki Luffy already has crazy senses, and with Kenbunshoku those are only amplified and added onto that. Kenbunshoku Haki sensing qualifies for literally over 70% of the type of sensing listed in the enhanced senses page.Show Me feats of reading someones mind
Intent sensing naruto also has that
Luffys precog didn't counter it
Naruto being able to tank fire is irrelevant as Red Hawk forces the fire into the opponent's body.Naruto can tank fire attacks and Internal damage is nowhere near a one shot
Show me luffy sensing energy and that is also wrong since people who can see energy cannot tell the differenceThey're perfect constructs of the opponent but that's also irrelevant as his clones don't have the same amount of Chakra as Naruto himself and that's something Luffu would be able to tell.
Sage Mode>>>A shit ton of sensory abilities that are vastly superior to Luffys base sensesHe's correct, Luffy badly out senses Naruto. Even without Kenbunshoku Haki Luffy already has crazy senses, and with Kenbunshoku those are only amplified and added onto that. Kenbunshoku Haki sensing qualifies for literally over 70% of the type of sensing listed in the enhanced senses page.
It goes in because the punch does damage it doesn't teleport insideNaruto being able to tank fire is irrelevant as Red Hawk forces the fire into the opponent's body.
Luffy's sensing scales to every Kenbunshoku user in the show since they use the exact same ability.Show me luffy sensing energy and that is also wrong since people who can see energy cannot tell the difference
Stop saying Naruto's sensing is better, prove it.Sage Mode>>>A shit ton of sensory abilities that are vastly superior to Luffys base senses
Yes, it does.It goes in because the punch does damage it doesn't teleport inside
I wanna see you try to prove thisSage Mode>>>A shit ton of sensory abilities that are vastly superior to Luffys base senses
Well first of all They can sense invisiblity, they can also sense energy, They can sense over long distances and have telepathy sensingI wanna see you try to prove this
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Haki/Kenbunshoku_Haki luffy can see and sense someones presence even if their presence isn't even there ..https://youtu.be/AiwBd9cnFyE?t=175Show me luffy sensing energy and that is also wrong since people who can see energy cannot tell the difference
Sage Mode>>>A shit ton of sensory abilities that are vastly superior to Luffys base senses
It goes in because the punch does damage it doesn't teleport inside
I heavily disagree with the clones part; but everything else is fair (Besides Luffy using telepathy as a tactical advantage in a fight; I'd need scans for that).Alright. Before Luffy looks bad, I'll intervene.
"Invisible Slashes?"Well first of all They can sense invisiblity
"I can see, their spirit!"they can also sense energy,
Long distance is useless in this fight.They can sense over long distances
Scans?and have telepathy sensing
Basic Observation is better than every sensing in Naruto prior to SPSM.There more comparable to basic Observation then Luffys baseline senses
Both of these points are completely false.They're perfect constructs of the opponent but that's also irrelevant as his clones don't have the same amount of Chakra as Naruto himself and that's something Luffu would be able to tell.
I wan't even comparing it to Observation but ok sure those are air pressure attacks which can be sensed much easier then what they can sense
It doesn't mean their literal soul which by the way brook showed is definitly not blue nor is it exactly shaped like them
This is the Yamanaka clan which it is superior toLong distance is useless in this fight.
Scans?
And you proved that howBasic Observation is better than every sensing in Naruto prior to SPSM.
"Invisible slashes"I wan't even comparing it to Observation but ok sure those are air pressure attacks which can be sensed much easier then what they can sense
When did I say literal soul?It doesn't mean their literal soul which by the way brook showed is definitly not blue nor is it exactly shaped like them
Where is it stated that Sage Mode is better than the Yamanaka Clan's sensing?This is the Yamanaka clan which it is superior to
Brook has a devil fruit... Its a green soul https://media.comicbook.com/2018/07/one-piece-soul-king-1125841-1280x0.jpeg while big mom with her soul soul fruit looks purple https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/9/9d/Soru_Soru_no_Mi_Infobox.png/revision/latest?cb=20170521101146 you can't really tell how souls actually look like but I think observation haki senses their aura or spiritual energy which is kinda the soulI wan't even comparing it to Observation but ok sure those are air pressure attacks which can be sensed much easier then what they can sense
It doesn't mean their literal soul which by the way brook showed is definitly not blue nor is it exactly shaped like them
This is the Yamanaka clan which it is superior to
I wasn't even comparing sage mode I was comparing stuff it was better then
And you proved that how
Fair with that but souls are still portrayed as more circular with both big mom and brookBrook has a devil fruit... Its a green soul https://media.comicbook.com/2018/07/one-piece-soul-king-1125841-1280x0.jpeg while big mom with her soul soul fruit looks purple https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/o...Infobox.png/revision/latest?cb=20170521101146 you can't really tell how souls actually look like but I think observation haki senses their aura or spiritual energy which is kinda the soul
Air Pressure can be sensed much easier then Muu"Invisible slashes"
Spirit=soulWhen did I say literal soul?
Shown in the pain arc with only naruto being able to locate himWhere is it stated that Sage Mode is better than the Yamanaka Clan's sensing?
But that's when the soul is outside the body and both brook and big mom has a devil fruit and are different thingsFair with that but souls are still portrayed as more circular with both big mom and brook
Did I say Muu's name? No.Air Pressure can be sensed much easier then Muu
Oh so I guess it's soul thenSpirit=soul
Never did, idcShown in the pain arc with only naruto being able to locate him
They sense muu keep upDid I say Muu's name? No.
Which is contradicted so it is just him sensing them through the wallOh so I guess it's soul then
Except it literally wasNever did, idc
Those are the only examples of souls and they are literally just the soulBut that's when the soul is outside the body and both brook and big mom has a devil fruit and are different things
Anyways, unfollowing until Grace is over
luffy can sense emotion and intent... So if you were about think of hitting luffy then he would know before hand... And sensing and seeing isn't the same... And yes observation haki should easily see their chakra since doflamingo can do this to his body with observation haki...https://youtu.be/DbVL67Ni81Q?t=1624Luffy most likely wins this but
when has Luffy's telapathy been used to the point where he can tell a clone is thinking that its going to be a distraction for naruto?
since this naruto still has kurama wouldn't he just regen from the internal damage? He dosent need to be transformed for kurama to heal him (kakashi even notes this in the land of waves)
The only sense thats really relevant for luffy is the future sight since both have danger emotion enhanced senses etc
Luffy wouldnt be able to tell that the clones have less chakra then the original, haki showed them the outline of the people not whats going on inside their body
That anbu saying top tier ninja can fight for an hour best is just wrong, Team 7 in the forest of death fought rain ninja all throughout the night until the sun came up
Since observation haki can even see or sense inside of their body... Kinda the same with byakugan... And no naruto can't sense intent... He senses the presences https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sensor_Type https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sage_ModeWhy is emotion sensing relevant here? Both are going for a kill/knock out, naruto can also sense intent
observation haki users have been hit before you acting like he can flawless victory anybody without future sight
all he did was fix his organs how does that = seeing how much chakra a clone has
You can sense someone's intent so you will know what he is about to do while danger sense you will only know something bad will happen...https://youtu.be/ocv6_EXm0Zs?t=4 rayleigh can sense the intent and will know what it is about to do.... While danger sensing will only alert you that something bad while happenwhen was that implied? they see the auras not the insides. How in sensing intent different from danger awareness?
Kenbunshoku has presence detection and can sense the opponents strength, his clones inherently don't have the same amount of Chakra as the original Naruto himself so that's something Luffy could sense. "This clone has less energy than the original."when was that implied? they see the auras not the insides. How in sensing intent different from danger awareness?
So if someone is about to teleport intent sensing will know that he is about to teleport while danger sensing won't tell you what he will dowhen was that implied? they see the auras not the insides. How in sensing intent different from danger awareness?
something bad was about to happen to rayleigh im confused here, that looks like danger awareness/spidey sensesYou can sense someone's intent so you will know what he is about to do while danger sense you will only know something bad will happen...https://youtu.be/ocv6_EXm0Zs?t=4 rayleigh can sense the intent and will know what it is about to do.... While danger sensing will only alert you that something bad while happen
if that were the case room shambles wouldnt even be relevant, and we know thats not the caseSo if someone is about to teleport intent sensing will know that he is about to teleport while danger sensing won't tell you what he will do
They know it will happen but they can't stop it since they are inside of a room and law has observation haki aswell...https://youtu.be/8pqDcwJ0mhQ?t=382 doflamingo will be able to sense a little I think from law and can react to law since he knows beforehandif that were the case room shambles wouldnt even be relevant, and we know thats not the case