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This thread is to address a specific issue on one of the meteor calculations that I've noticed and I think requires some discussion in order to resolve. I anticipate that the concerns I'm raising could be controversial but I request that just staff members and calc group members voice their opinions here on deciding whether or not the concerns are valid.
Context
The original calc by KingTempest for Fujitora's second meteor feat is here. It was updated with a new atmosphere height so the result there isn't the result that is currently being used, but all of the measurements for the meteor's volume are there.
The issue is that in order to find the volume & mass of the meteor for the KE calc, the diameter of the meteor needs to be scaled; yet the meteor itself is not visible in that panel.
Here is a shot of the feat in the original black and white manga.
Here is a shot of the feat in the digital colored version of the manga.
Since the meteor isn't actually visible in the manga, KingTempest has used "the meteor's ablated end" or the tail of the meteor, with the basis that is the trailing tail end of the meteor would be smaller than the meteor itself and can be used to estimate the diameter of the meteor.
My issues with this is that it doesn't actually look like the tail of the meteor is what is being scaled here. There is no upward trail from it towards the sky suggesting the path of the meteor and its shape looks more like an explosion/fire blast from the impact of the meteor hitting the ground than something trailing behind the meteor itself. The meteor not being visible at all increases the doubt as to how can we actually compare what is on panel there to the meteor itself.
I know that it could be unclear just looking at the still frame of the manga version itself to decide whether or not what is scaled there reflects the meteor's size, so I've looked at the anime version as a secondary source to fall back on and provide further clarification.
Here is the feat linked via the frame-by-frame website.
- At frame 475 we can see what appears to be the explosion of the meteor's impact beginning to form and what seems to be the tail end of the meteor above it.
- At frame 476 we can see the explosion expand and the meteor's tail end a little clearer.
- At frame 478 we can see the explosion expanding even further and the meteor's tail end has disappeared.
In the anime itself, we don't see the meteor clearly either and when it adapts the original panel that has been pixel-scaled, the anime makes it clear that it is not the ablated end of the meteor but the impact explosion of the meteor itself. It shows what could be the tail further up, and it is much smaller than the explosion itself.
Conclusion
Given that the meteor isn't visible at all in the manga version of the feat, and the anime version shows that the actual "tail" of the meteor is quite small and what is being scaled in the manga is actually an explosion caused by the meteor's impact, I don't think we can take the calced meteor's volume as being reliable and the calc shouldn't be used.
Context
The original calc by KingTempest for Fujitora's second meteor feat is here. It was updated with a new atmosphere height so the result there isn't the result that is currently being used, but all of the measurements for the meteor's volume are there.
The issue is that in order to find the volume & mass of the meteor for the KE calc, the diameter of the meteor needs to be scaled; yet the meteor itself is not visible in that panel.
Here is a shot of the feat in the original black and white manga.
Here is a shot of the feat in the digital colored version of the manga.
Since the meteor isn't actually visible in the manga, KingTempest has used "the meteor's ablated end" or the tail of the meteor, with the basis that is the trailing tail end of the meteor would be smaller than the meteor itself and can be used to estimate the diameter of the meteor.
My issues with this is that it doesn't actually look like the tail of the meteor is what is being scaled here. There is no upward trail from it towards the sky suggesting the path of the meteor and its shape looks more like an explosion/fire blast from the impact of the meteor hitting the ground than something trailing behind the meteor itself. The meteor not being visible at all increases the doubt as to how can we actually compare what is on panel there to the meteor itself.
I know that it could be unclear just looking at the still frame of the manga version itself to decide whether or not what is scaled there reflects the meteor's size, so I've looked at the anime version as a secondary source to fall back on and provide further clarification.
Here is the feat linked via the frame-by-frame website.
- At frame 475 we can see what appears to be the explosion of the meteor's impact beginning to form and what seems to be the tail end of the meteor above it.
- At frame 476 we can see the explosion expand and the meteor's tail end a little clearer.
- At frame 478 we can see the explosion expanding even further and the meteor's tail end has disappeared.
In the anime itself, we don't see the meteor clearly either and when it adapts the original panel that has been pixel-scaled, the anime makes it clear that it is not the ablated end of the meteor but the impact explosion of the meteor itself. It shows what could be the tail further up, and it is much smaller than the explosion itself.
Conclusion
Given that the meteor isn't visible at all in the manga version of the feat, and the anime version shows that the actual "tail" of the meteor is quite small and what is being scaled in the manga is actually an explosion caused by the meteor's impact, I don't think we can take the calced meteor's volume as being reliable and the calc shouldn't be used.