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Doesn’t matter to me, but Shin is shown using it in the manga. It’s up to the others though.
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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Accelerated_Evolution
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Ok, i will add it
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Manga Gohan is a bit of a ***** compared to the movie. (Obvious spoilers so if you care don't click)
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Unfortunate. So while he still has good scaling, it's just a bit less good sadly.
Considering he no-selled a punch from Cell Max but struggled in a beam clash, that adds further supportive evidence for how much stronger a Blast can be than a punch/kick in Dragon Ball. Not that none of us already knew that but, a lot of people still don't understand that. Even though in the Raditz Saga this was already shown very well. I mean Raditz was literally dogging on both of them and their attacks couldn't even phase him. Piccolo's first yellow Ki blast on him literally did NOTHING to Raditz. Then Piccolo uses a special technique and it one-shots him. So xd.
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I think it's worth noting that it isn't necessarily a Blast vs Kick/Punch thing. It's just how much Ki you're using. If you charge your fist with Ki it can be as strong as any blast, for example Gamma 2's sacrifice was him going to his maximum limits and smashing into Max with full force. People just need to use common sense. An ordinary Ki Blast is about equivalent to a punch or kick. A Kamehameha is obviously going to be far stronger than a Ki Blast, punch or kick. But a charged up punch with tons of Ki can definitely match a Kamehameha.
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Yes but I more so mean average punches. And the technique does effect the strength. Which is why there's a Super Kamehameha and a regular Kamehameha.
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In the anime and manga it is shown that you can go to the future of your own Universe (this is seen when Kaioshin travels with Zamasu to show a population of barbarians on a planet and their evolution over a thousand years), there it is mentioned that they must go back to your normal Universe and such, from what I can understand each Universe has its own time, past, present, and future.
So if a being can erase a Universe, it would be erasing the entire past, present, and future of its Universe.
So if a being can erase a Universe, it would be erasing the entire past, present, and future of its Universe.
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Depends. Toppo states Jiren surpasses Belmod in combat skill in the manga, not power. And while Beerus fights several other GoDs that's via skill superiority. It's shown in terms of power they're generally relative.
If Freeza has skill akin to Jiren and power close to a Destroyer he's at the level where he could probably force Beerus to go all out.
Killerdrone123
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Bruh he should have been equal to beerus till now imagine in future beerus vs frieza happens and beerus says that frieza made him use only 50% of his full power I would be hella mad even though beerus is goated I want someone to surpass him already
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Hyperbole I'm sure
Accelerated_Evolution
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"Hyperboles and fallacies"
But yeah, the "can´t measure his power" thing is a hyperbole
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That was a mistranslation actually, Toppo uses Sentō-ryoku (戦闘力) which is just power level
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In that case nothing makes sense lol UI Goku is shown to match Jiren blow for blow in the ToP and only loses due to inexperience (stamina) and Beerus later praises UI Goku as 'godlike' when he fights Moro.
For all intents and purposes Black Freeza should one shot GoDs if he scales so far beyond Jiren and Jiren has power surpassing Belmod.
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These fallacies in Dragon Ball are not new, when I actually see Beerus being defeated in combat I will believe it"Hyperboles and fallacies"
But yeah, the "can´t measure his power" thing is a hyperbole
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So let me get this straight.
Black Freeza >>>> Gas >> TUI Goku >> Granolah >> UI Goku >>>> Moro (Pre-UI) ~ SSB Vegito (Black)> Broly ~ Jiren ~ Beerus > Belmod > Black Freeza > TUI Goku >> Granolah >> UI Goku >>>> Moro (Pre-UI) ~ SSB Vegito (Black) > Broly ~ Jiren ~ Beerus > Belmod > Black Freeza...
Man I ******* love Dragon Ball Super scaling.
- SSB Vegito was claimed to surpass the level of Beerus in the Black Saga
- Jiren surpasses Gods of Destruction in power (specifically Belmod)
- Goku (who saw the GoDs all fight in the manga) believes Broly could be stronger than Beerus
- Goku refers to Moro as his toughest opponent so far despite fighting Jiren and Broly and both being stated to surpass the GoD-level
- Granolah wished to be the strongest in the universe and stomped UI Goku, firmly making him stronger than even Broly
- Gas was made the strongest and far surpassed even that
- Freeza came out of nowhere and oneshot Gas and is 'near' the God of Destruction level and is 'closer than Goku or Vegeta'
Black Freeza >>>> Gas >> TUI Goku >> Granolah >> UI Goku >>>> Moro (Pre-UI) ~ SSB Vegito (Black)> Broly ~ Jiren ~ Beerus > Belmod > Black Freeza > TUI Goku >> Granolah >> UI Goku >>>> Moro (Pre-UI) ~ SSB Vegito (Black) > Broly ~ Jiren ~ Beerus > Belmod > Black Freeza...
Man I ******* love Dragon Ball Super scaling.
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I see it bro
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Fezzih_007
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Fixed.
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According to him, his power comes from thoughts of destruction, so as Goku and company get closer to his power, he thinks endlessly about destruction.literally Beerus has plot hax which make him somehow always stronger than the newest characters
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the biggest mystery in DBS
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I hope that cat gets castrated for giving me this headache.
At this rate we'll get Omni-King Freeza and he'll still be below Beerus-level.
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Is the superior instinct of angels passive? If it is the natural state of angels and it does not require it to be mentioned in their profiles?
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Beerus was actually surpassed in the Tournament of Power so he studied Android 17's methods.
Spinoirr
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Beerus just grows stronger by doing nothing lol
Hasty12345
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I think it’s clear Beerus is just getting stronger, it’s how destruction power works.
Killerdrone123
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I am still figuring out why you guys underline your words
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Special attacks obviously tank higher than normal attacks, if they had a technique that could focus that same amount of ki onto their punches, it would be the same effect
SirAlex09
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IF we were like Saitama fans: "THIS IS PROOF THAT BEERUS POWER IS LIMITLESS"Beerus was spitting
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I still haven't been able to learn how to do it on my cell phone.
Killerdrone123
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No I know how to underline it but why do you do it
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I don't know bro
Accelerated_Evolution
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Killerdrone123
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Goku is a simple man if you punch him he would scream and punch you even harder
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If we use non - canon Goku vs android 13 is the best example
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I feel like this site underestimate how good Goku Analytical Prediction is actually I think he beats Garou and Mori in this department
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