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The Adepti, the Knights of Favonius and Tier 7
The Primo Geovishap caused a powerful earthquake and Klee was able to defeat it. Mind you she did this without any preparation or setting up bombs since she said that she randomly encountered it. To add some concistency Lisa has her own 7-C feat of creating a storm, which is something she also does in the lore.
Characters that heavily downscale from the 7-C calc
Fatui Agents (A duo of Fatui Agents were able to restrain the Mondstandt Traveler as well as take hits from them)
Yelan (Can defeat Fatui Agents and has survived in the Chasm for an extended period of time)
Young Diluc (Can defeat entire groups of Fatui agents)
Kaeya (Clashed equally with a young Diluc and has likely gotten stronger since)
Tignari (Defeated a group of Fatui agents with Deyha's help)
Hu Tao (Defeated a Fatui agent in her demo)
Fatui Agents (A duo of Fatui Agents were able to restrain the Mondstandt Traveler as well as take hits from them)
Yelan (Can defeat Fatui Agents and has survived in the Chasm for an extended period of time)
Young Diluc (Can defeat entire groups of Fatui agents)
Kaeya (Clashed equally with a young Diluc and has likely gotten stronger since)
Tignari (Defeated a group of Fatui agents with Deyha's help)
Hu Tao (Defeated a Fatui agent in her demo)
Characters that directly scale to the 7-C calc
Klee (Defeated the Primo Geovishap)
Jean (Is a contender for the strongest fighter in Modnstandt, by both the people of the city and the Traveler themselves alongside Diluc, putting her on a comparable level to Klee)
Current Diluc (Same justification as Jean)
Eula (Is equal to Jean according to Varka)
Lisa (Can damage Kaeya when enraged. Performed her own 7-C feat)
Mondstandt Traveler (Fought against impostor Albedo alongside Eula)
Impostor Albedo (Could trade attacks with Eula and the ondstandt Traveler)
Albedo (Dealt the killing blow to impostor Albedo. Believes that only the Tarveler would be capable of stopping him if he ever went on a rampage)
Lupus Boreas (Can fight against the Mondstandt Traveler)
Klee (Defeated the Primo Geovishap)
Jean (Is a contender for the strongest fighter in Modnstandt, by both the people of the city and the Traveler themselves alongside Diluc, putting her on a comparable level to Klee)
Current Diluc (Same justification as Jean)
Eula (Is equal to Jean according to Varka)
Lisa (Can damage Kaeya when enraged. Performed her own 7-C feat)
Mondstandt Traveler (Fought against impostor Albedo alongside Eula)
Impostor Albedo (Could trade attacks with Eula and the ondstandt Traveler)
Albedo (Dealt the killing blow to impostor Albedo. Believes that only the Tarveler would be capable of stopping him if he ever went on a rampage)
Lupus Boreas (Can fight against the Mondstandt Traveler)
That being said there's two outliers among the Mondstandt cast and those are Noelle and Klee. Klee after setting up to many bombs leveled the entirety of Stormbearer Mountains. Noelle broke every claymore made by Wagner which would likely include the Waster Greatsword, which is capable of shattering mountains. Both of these feats would be Low 7-B (Note that Klee would only be Low 7-B with a large amount of bombs so her ratings would probably be 7-C with magic and explosives, up to Low 7-B with preparation)
Finally for the Adepti and Liyue cast we have Shenhe's 7-A calc of freezing a tsunami, which has been around for some time now but for some reason is scaled exclusively to her. Now yes Shenhe is considered really really powerful but not by an absurd margin compared to the other Adepti tier characters. Infact when she freezes the tsunami, you can see Ganyu also charging up a shot likely to also freeze the tsunami.
Those who scale to the 7-A feat are
Shenhe (Performed the feat)
Ganyu (Intended to freeze the tsunami had Shenhe not intervened. Has trained under cloud Reatainer for far longer than Shenhe has
The Liyue Traveler (Is in no way infirior to Ganyu)
Liyue Chapter Tartaglia (Fought the Liyue Traveler for an extended period of time)
Abyss Heralds (Can fight against the Liyue Traveler)
Shenhe (Performed the feat)
Ganyu (Intended to freeze the tsunami had Shenhe not intervened. Has trained under cloud Reatainer for far longer than Shenhe has
The Liyue Traveler (Is in no way infirior to Ganyu)
Liyue Chapter Tartaglia (Fought the Liyue Traveler for an extended period of time)
Abyss Heralds (Can fight against the Liyue Traveler)
Also, before this is brought up, we see numerous characters on this level withstand elemental attacks from eachother, albeit they are superior to their physicals. The Traveler can take a concentrated hydro blast from Beist and is only briefly knocked out, Kaeya can withstand Lisa's lightning with only some damage and Fatui agents can take the Travelers windscyth (there's probably more examples but i can't be bothered to gather everything).
Beidou, Xiao, Cyno and Ayaka
Moving on we have characters that are sort of in their own miscallenious tiers
Beidou is currently scaled to "High 7-A, possibly 6-C" based on her defeating Haishan who her profile states is comparable to monsters from the Archon War. Problem is i could not find a single mention of this in the actual lore of the game. Anytime Haishan is mentioned he is simply called a legendery sea monster and i'm not even sure if he was around during the Archon War. Beidou would should still scale to 7-A from the likes of Ganyu as she is regarded as superhumanly strong by the people of Liyue (said rumors being true to her actual strength).
Xiao is scaled to "High 7-A, possibly 6-C" by scaling above Beidou slaying Haishan, which as we discussed isn't a valid feat. So he would also be downgraded to At least 7-A, as he is considered one of the most powerful Adepti, with Ganyu seeking out to train with him specifically
Cyno is currently listed as "High 8-C, possibly 6-C", however his only scaling is against Sumeru Traveler and the Wanderer, both of which are 6-C. Now the latter was holding back and he fought the former for only a moment but i still believe he should be upgraded to an "At most 6-C".
Ayaka should scale to Post-Inazuma Traveler, via fighting the Maguu Kenki alongside him as well as fighting the Traveler themselves. Now she does later admit infiriority to the Traveler, but she should still be somewhat comparable to them making her "At most 6-C".
Dvalin and Venti
Venti is curently listed as High 8-C in his Post-Prologue key, however there's no reason to assume that his power dropped this much after losing the Gnosis. Infact we know that he defeated Decarabian, who stalemated God Andrius, before even becoming the Anemo Archon in the first place. This means that even his base level of power without the Gnosis is still 6-C scaling above prime Andrius, so that's what he should be listed as instead.
As for Dvalin, we know that during the fight with Venti, Jean, Diluc and the Traveler, Venti was actively powering the others up to be able to contend with Dvalin. He also warns them that while Dvalin's power has declined he is still very dangerous. With all that in mind i think it's fair to assume that Dvalin even in his current weakened state should scale to current Venti, making him 6-C as well.
Verse Page Scaling
The scaling on the verse page is extremely outdated, so i porpose it being replaced with
Hilichurl Tier: For untrained Vision-wielders or those completely lacking in combat-related feats, such as Diona and Xinyan, but should at least be capable of defeating Hilichurls, which can pose a threat to more capable combatants in large enough numbers. High 8-C (downscaling greatly from 4 tons of TNT).
Adventurer Tier: For the standard trained Vision-wielders, such as Razor and Amber, who should scale to Bennett melting some ice with hsi elemental burst. High 8-C (4 tons of TNT).
Knight of Favonious Tier: High level vision users such as Jean, Diluc and Lisa that scale Klee defeating the Primo Geovishap, which is capable of causing a powerful earthquake. 7-C (15 Kilotons of TNT)
Adeptus Tier: Characters the level of an Adeptus such as Ganyu and the Liyue Traveler, which scale to Shenhe freezing a tsunami. 7-A (454 Megatons of TNT)
Low God Tier: For those who scale to God Andrius; mainly consists of the baseline for a deity, such as Venti and the Shouki no Kami. 6-C (5.8 Gigatons).
High God Tier: For those who scale to or above Prime Barbatos who could lift and throw Pilos Peak, such as the top three of the Fatui Harbingers and the Seven Dragon Sovereigns. 6-C+ (54 gigatons).
Adventurer Tier: For the standard trained Vision-wielders, such as Razor and Amber, who should scale to Bennett melting some ice with hsi elemental burst. High 8-C (4 tons of TNT).
Knight of Favonious Tier: High level vision users such as Jean, Diluc and Lisa that scale Klee defeating the Primo Geovishap, which is capable of causing a powerful earthquake. 7-C (15 Kilotons of TNT)
Adeptus Tier: Characters the level of an Adeptus such as Ganyu and the Liyue Traveler, which scale to Shenhe freezing a tsunami. 7-A (454 Megatons of TNT)
Low God Tier: For those who scale to God Andrius; mainly consists of the baseline for a deity, such as Venti and the Shouki no Kami. 6-C (5.8 Gigatons).
High God Tier: For those who scale to or above Prime Barbatos who could lift and throw Pilos Peak, such as the top three of the Fatui Harbingers and the Seven Dragon Sovereigns. 6-C+ (54 gigatons).
7-C scaling
Agree: 10 (@Woomica, @SatellaTheWoE, @V999, @TWILIGHT-OP, @Spectra_Schiffer, @Harith0cell, @Emirp sumitpo (staff), @Naitodesu, @Spinoirr, @Propellus (staff))
Disagree: 0
Neutral: 0
7-A scaling
Agree: 10 (@Woomica, @SatellaTheWoE, @V999, @TWILIGHT-OP, @Spectra_Schiffer, @Harith0cell, @Emirp sumitpo (staff), @Naitodesu, @Spinoirr, @Propellus (staff))
Disagree: 0
Neutral: 0
6-C scaling
Agree: 9 (@Woomica, @SatellaTheWoE, @V999, @TWILIGHT-OP (neutral on 6-C Ayaka), @Spectra_Schiffer, @Harith0cell, @Emirp sumitpo (staff), @Spinoirr, @Propellus (staff))
Disagree:0
Neutral: 1 (@Naitodesu)
Verse Page Scaling
Agree: 10 (@Woomica, @SatellaTheWoE, @V999, @TWILIGHT-OP, @Spectra_Schiffer, @Harith0cell, @Emirp sumitpo (staff), @Naitodesu, @Spinoirr, @Propellus (staff))
Disagree: 0
Neutral: 0
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