Hero For Fun vs Invincible Hero

[RanaProGamer]

Surprised this hasn't been done yet, both characters during their training period go at it

Standard Battle Assumptions

Speed equalized

7-A Versions

Pre Thraxa Invincible vs During Training Saitama

Who wins and why?

 

[Arkansalter2]

AlriR. So we got 2 powerful "heroes." Lets see what we got.
Off rip, I can see that Thraxa dude has higher stats. With this in mind, it's already not looking good for Baldy.
Looking at the powers, it is clear that Thraxa guy can win just by staying in the air due to his flight due to Baldy not being able to psuedo-fly yet during training. Thraxa guy has many wincons (Flight, martial arts, regen [albeit slow], and rage power), it is unlikely Baldy would win this.
However, Baldy does have a wincon for him as well. His d%^&head amount of willpower. He naturally broke his limiter, allowing for him to fight for extremely extensive periods. Saitama might eventually shrug off Invincidude's hits.
Hmmm... I'm not sure about this one. Saitama has stupid willpower and some pretty heavy hits, however Invincidude has a lot more powers and wincons.
I'm siding towards invincidude for right now.

 

[MrKerf]

The thing is though, Saitama's willpower is greater than even Garou's, who was able to overcome death. And since they are comparable in stats, I don't see any reason for Saitama to not just outgrow him quickly.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Saitama wins likely via willpower

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

The thing is though, Saitama's willpower is greater than even Garou's, who was able to overcome death. And since they are comparable in stats, I don't see any reason for Saitama to not just outgrow him quickly.

Yeah, bro has like Record of Ragnarok Adam Willpower but on steroids.

 

[Emerald]

Saitama can grow from getting one shot to one shot his opponent. As far as I can see, he scales to 225.25 Megatons while Mark to 948.468 Megatons
Mark can fly, which as far I can tell, Saitama has no way to deal with

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Saitama can grow from getting one shot to one shot his opponent. As far as I can see, he scales to 225.25 Megatons while Mark to 948.468 Megatons
Mark can fly, which as far I can tell, Saitama has no way to deal with

Mark can't really abuse this though because he has no ranged options, at least none that Saitama can't replicate on a greater scale.

 

[Stillwinston]

I am kinda leaning on caped baldy mostly due to his willpower and zenkai style boost though will see what others have to say

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Idk how Saitama's willpower will work, but Mark has more than enough power to knock Saitama out with a single hit, especially if he's angry due to his rage boosts, and since Mark will see him as a threat, he'll actually be much stronger than his 7-A value as that value was for calm Mark

Leaning toward Invincible too

 

[RanaProGamer]

2 votes for Invincible, 1 vote for Saitama

 

[Catbowtie]

Idk how Saitama's willpower will work, but Mark has more than enough power to knock Saitama out with a single hit, especially if he's angry due to his rage boosts, and since Mark will see him as a threat, he'll actually be much stronger than his 7-A value as that value was for calm Mark

Counter-point, during the Thraxa invasion, even though Omni-man was literally telling Mark that the Viltrumites will kill him, Mark still tried to reason with them and still held back.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Counter-point, during the Thraxa invasion, even though Omni-man was literally telling Mark that the Viltrumites will kill him, Mark still tried to reason with them and still held back.

Counter counter point: When he saw Atom Eve about to be killed by the Flaxans he got a massive rage boost and defeated them. Besides, he did stop holding back against the Viltumites. Also in the fight against Angstrom he was pushed to use his full power due to his rage

 

[Stillwinston]

Thing is though would he get absolutely raged by Saitama? Guy is just gonna stand there with a derpy expression before anything else

 

[Farfetchedx]

Saitama should take this

The AP difference is just 4.2. We also need to consider that Saitama's durability scales far above his AP, and that mark holds back against dangerous people who try to kill him all the time. Invincible really only gets angry when people he care about gets hurt, which won't be the case here. Invincible may have flight, but cant utilize it since he has no ranged attacks. Saitama has greater willpower than Garou, and Grou's willpower allows him survive near death attacks, tolerate immense pain and outgow opponents in mere seconds. I see Saitama just outgrowing pretty quickly. By the time mark gets serious, it would already be too late.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Saitamas growth and willpower are tied to his emotional state, similarly to Marks rage boost. Marks profile verbatim states his rage power is a stomp level jump similarly to Saitama as well.

So this is basically Saitama vs Saitama with a 4x AP advantage + flight + better skill.

 

[MrKerf]

Saitamas growth and willpower are tied to his emotional state, similarly to Marks rage boost

Not really. He just needs to want to win. The emotion works too, though.

 

[Livinmeme]

If saitama is threatened in any way, shape or form (which he will, considering he is figthing against someone that bordelines oneshots him), he will recieve a massive zenkai that will boost him to like....6-B, or something along those lines.

 

[DavidTPPM]

If saitama is threatened in any way, shape or form (which he will, considering he is figthing against someone that bordelines oneshots him), he will recieve a massive zenkai that will boost him to like....6-B, or something along those lines.

No, the 6B value is not based on his boost.

Not really. He just needs to want to win. The emotion works too, though.

The link doesn't work but the Garou fight straight up says his growth only becomes exponential with an emotional upsurge meanwhile every time we've seen him jump in strength was in a life threatening scenario. Basically same as Mark

 

[RanaProGamer]

We’re tied at 2-2 for Invincible and Saitama

 

[EnderLord8]

Well, I'm going to vote for Saitama, since Mark isn't really going to start that seriously against someone like Saitama and since he's going to be dealing against someone with a lot more AP and a mobility advantage, his growth is going to grow fast enough to cover the difference and surpass Mark

 

[Arkansalter2]

Alright I'm going with Saitama FRA.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Well, I'm going to vote for Saitama, since Mark isn't really going to start that seriously against someone like Saitama

Yes he would because of SBA. SBA states that they come in a mindset where they see their opponent as a threat, so Mark will take it seriously. Meanwhile Saitama treats world ending threats as if they're just another day at work (which for him it kinda is)

 

[DavidTPPM]

Yeah saying Mark doesn't start seriously when talking about SAITAMA of all people is pretty funny.

 

[SlendVeny]

Yeah saying Mark doesn't start seriously when talking about SAITAMA of all people is pretty funny.

Saitama doesn't look threatening, almost no one takes him seriously.

 

[Stillwinston]

Saitama's just going to be standing there with a derpy facial expression, don't see nothing in Mark's profile that would have him be like "I can tell this foe has hidden power."

 

[MrKerf]

Even if he does start seriously, you all are confused about how Rage Power actually works. Even so, it doesn't matter how he starts, since Saitama's willpower can ignore even death.

The link doesn't work

Weird, I took it directly from his page, in which he grows in a fight with Light Cord due to his desire to surpass his limits.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Saitama doesn't look threatening, almost no one takes him seriously.

SBA will make sure Mark will. But regarding Saitama, even when he's faced by most enemies he barely loses his cool. He's extremely causal even when punching threats that can destroty the world. I don't see how Saitama will treat him any differently than your average enemy he kills with one punch, especially since as far as he knows, Mark looks human

 

[DavidTPPM]

Saitama doesn't look threatening, almost no one takes him seriously.

Point is that Saitama himself doesn't take anyone seriously while Mark knows even a regular looking guy could be a Viltrumite capable of one shotting him.

Saitama's just going to be standing there with a derpy facial expression, don't see nothing in Mark's profile that would have him be like "I can tell this foe has hidden power."

Half of the mfers in Invincible look like regular people. Saitama looking like a regular derpy guy won't change how Mark fights him. Especially not under SBA.

Even if he does start seriously, you all are confused about how Rage Power actually works. Even so, it doesn't matter how he starts, since Saitama's willpower can ignore even death.

How does Saitama ignore death lmao?

 

[DavidTPPM]

The only 2 possible outcomes I see here are either Mark kills Saitama from the start because he has a pretty large AP advantage or Saitama outgrows him ending up in Marks rage power kicking in and making it a battle of willpower.

Which would probably be either in Marks favor or incon since later on Mark straight up fights someone while his organs are spilling out of his body or while his entire body is burning to crisp.

 

[Emerald]

How does Saitama ignore death lmao?

He can ignore what would be considered a lethal state or being near death

 

[DavidTPPM]

He can ignore what would be considered a lethal state or being near death

Oh okay ig. But like, (massive spoilers for Invincible comics) Mark fought someone who could one punch him through the chest in this state and still beat him

 

[MrKerf]

Also, no one seem to realise that this is During-Training Saitama, who doesn't have derpy expression most of the time.

 

[Emerald]

Oh okay ig. But like, (massive spoilers for Invincible comics) Mark fought someone who could one punch him through the chest in this state and still beat him

thats comic stuff. Animated series doesnt have that yet

 

[DavidTPPM]

thats comic stuff. Animated series doesnt have that yet

Okay but be fr, Marks entire character and major fights are 1:1 identical with the comics so far.
You can technically say it's not canon yet but like, besides being disingenuous you'd just make the fight instantly outdated the moment the 3rd (or 4th?) season drops

 

[Stillwinston]

Eh I'll change my vote to Incon I guess, Mark's ap gap is impressive but Saitama can outgrow and I guess both take the other seriously so its a toss up imo

 

[Stillwinston]

Okay but be fr, Marks entire character and major fights are 1:1 identical with the comics so far.
You can technically say it's not canon yet but like, besides being disingenuous you'd just make the fight instantly outdated the moment the 3rd (or 4th?) season drops

Speaking of comics I was still amazed Omni Man told Mark to read his books, man was getting sent to be executed yet plugs his merch and peddles his wares to his son like the true sigma capitalist that he is.

 

[RanaProGamer]

4 votes for Saitama, 2 votes for Invincible and 1 vote for incon

 

[Arceus0x]

Vote for Saitama. The willpower boost goes crazy in the manga while Invincible could get his ass kicked in and he'd still not go full rage mode. Saitama is about as threatening looking as the average thug or less so expecting Invincible to go full ape on him before Saitama does is weird.

 

[Bernkastelll]

SBA will make sure Mark will. But regarding Saitama, even when he's faced by most enemies he barely loses his cool. He's extremely causal even when punching threats that can destroty the world.

7-A saitama is not like that, full-power saitama indeed acts like that but thats not the case here

Saitama FRA btw

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Having read through this whole through caped body's arguments convinced me more, I also want to add being able to fight with organs ripped out is more do to there biology then will power, there like freiza in that way