TBATE: AP Upgrades

[Testarossa002]

Hello
Releasing this concurrently as the layers thread since one doesn't affect the other plus I'm currently swamped with IRL stuffs

Spoiler: Part 1

This part seeks to apply the mid-end version of this calculation
I asked DMUA and he said that end can be used if there’s sufficient evidence for characters being in close proximity to the Grand Mountains whenever a mountain nuking statement is made.
Arthur noted that a fight between Mica and Olfred would level a mountain.

Feeling like an academy trainer breaking up a couple overexcited recruits, I gathered water particles from the nearby trees and hosed the dwarves down until they were both dripping wet.
They whipped their heads around at me, eyes glaring.
“Are you guys done or do you want to level a mountain while you’re at it?”
Mica clicked her tongue. “It’s Oldfred’s fault, bringing up a lady’s age.”
“Those born sipping milk from silver goblets need to be educated about their ignorance,” Olfred muttered.

At the time this statement was made, they were all in close proximity to the Grand Mountains. Which makes the statement perfectly acceptable for the mid-end calc.

I spent the entirety of the first day on Sylvie’s back. Without a word muttered to either of the dwarven Lances, we traveled until night fell and my legs, already taxed from the hours of gripping tightly onto the base of my bond’s neck, could no longer take the strain of riding on bare scale, even with the protection of thick cloth and mana.
So, because of my limitations, we stopped for the night and made camp near the base of the Grand Mountains, just a few miles north of Valden City.
“Please, help yourself.” I held out a skewer of grilled fish toward Generals Mica and Olfred.

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Since there were two characters the statement was made in reference to, the calc would be divided into two as a safe assumption. Hence, the primary scaling value would be 975 Gigatons.
Bairon, Alea, Aya, Olfred, and Mica
They would all scale to the primary value (975 Gigatons) as the statement was attributed to Olfred and Mica. The Lances (except Varay) were all portrayed as being roughly relative to each other
Varay
Varay is repeatedly and consistently regarded as the most powerful Lance, I’m proposing that she should actually scale to the full value of the feat (1.95 Teratons). She could subdue the attacks of Bairon and Olfred at once with ease

Bairon unleashed a shockwave, knocking away the two stone knights before he charged toward Olfred. Lightning manifested around his flattened hand, turning it into a crackling lance. Olfred had already turned his entire right arm into a gauntlet of lava, but just as the two were about to exchange blows, the female Lance appeared between them.
“Enough.” Instantly, both Bairon and Olfred were trapped up to their necks in coffins of ice. There was no gradual decrease in temperature of the air or water in the atmosphere to trigger the freezing process. The space around the two Lances simply froze, and despite the gauntlet of lava surrounding Olfred’s right arm, the ice didn’t even hiss or steam.
“Bairon, you are not the one to make this decision. It is up to the Council to determine what to do with the boy… and the dragon,” she said, her voice so emotionless that Kathyln suddenly seemed like the protagonist in a soap opera by comparison. Even as she stared at my giant, obsidian dragon, there was no reaction; she regarded Sylvie as something akin to a lamp post.

“Insubordination will not be tolerated,” she said tersely as ice slowly spread from the tip of her blade onto his neck.
By this time, I had already given up on escaping. If I had ever thought that shifting into second phase might give me a chance to run away, I withdrew that notion as I watched the female Lance manhandle the other two with frightening speed.

Arthur
Before addressing his scaling in all this, I want to address something else
Multi-Element Combo
Arthur can combine multiple elemental attacks into a single, more powerful attack. He usually shuffles between 3 and 4 elements. He does this combo by either condensing it into a single beam

Aldir caught my gaze and prepared to lift me up with his aura, but I stopped him. Sending ice, lightning, and wind attribute mana into my palm, I raised my arm and whipped around to face Uto.The thin, translucent beam of fused elements pierced the narrow gap between the two Vritra, creating a crackling gale in its path. The ray shot past them and into the water, and the ocean split from the force of my spell. The waves instantly froze over, then a current of electricity shattered the ice into shards of sparkling glass.

Rather than going for raw power like Elijah, I used my mana efficiently. Still in the air, I coalesced different attributes together to form several condensed bullets of varying colors. With a burst of blue fire, aided by wind magic, the five bullets shot through the air, visible as streaks of light like multicolored lasers.

Or by focusing it into a sword for melee combat

I brought Dawn’s Ballad close to my side, pointing the weapon’s fractured tip at Uto. The runes glowing on my arm burned with a comforting warmth as I began coalescing the mana surrounding me.
The blade of my sword shimmered in a scintillating array of colors as I infused ice, fire, lightning, and wind. No weapon other than Dawn’s Ballad could have held strong with such an overwhelming amount of mana being loaded into it.

“Thank you,” I replied, drawing the sword from its plain steel scabbard. The blade was a pale gold color, about three fingers in width, and slightly longer than Dawn’s Ballad. After testing its balance with a few swings, I began channeling mana into it.
The thin sword hummed as fire, wind, water, and earth magic all began to swirl around the blade in harmony. I continued injecting mana into the sword until I could see the blade beginning to deteriorate from the burden of being imbued with multiple elements.

With this in mind, I’m proposing that Multi-Elemental Combo be given a 4x multiplier off his base attacks
Since that’s out of the way, let’s move to actually scaling him
Third Key
Contrary to popular opinion (seen a lot of it on Reddit), Silver Core Arthur isn’t really at the level of the Lances. It’s mentioned by Arthur himself

Despite being at the mid silver core stage, I felt inadequate sitting there next to the other Lances. With Dawn’s Ballad damaged and my legs debilitated, I felt like I had taken a step back, even after the training at Epheotus. I was certain of one thing: I couldn’t afford to use Burst Step again if I wanted to retain the ability to walk.

Arthur paused, but the crowd remained quiet, patiently waiting for him to speak again. “Born to a humble background, I have been able to climb to where I am now thanks to my family—as well as the friends I met along the way. I am now a Lance, and the youngest one at that, but I’m not the strongest. The Lances out there, some whom are fighting battles as we speak, are far above me in power—yet even I was able to defeat a retainer, one of the so-called ‘highest powers’ of the Alacryan army.”

That being said, he’s not that far behind them when utilizing Realmheart Physique. Bairon displayed some degree of uncertainty when asked if he could defeat Realmheart Physique Arthur

The earth around beneath sank a few feet so that we all had to stand to see the fight. In the distance were two distinct figures. One looked like a translucent statue carved by a master sculptor, while the other seemed like a mighty deity in human form.
“So. Do you think you can beat Arthur in a fight?” Commander Virion casually asked General Bairon.
The Lance remained silent while he imbued the crystal on Emily’s panel with mana, his stern gaze focused on Master Varay and Arthur.

Although useless for scaling since Varay was holding back, she mentioned that there was a chance he could have been holding back

Looking up, I locked eyes with Varay as she returned to her normal form, the ice that enveloped her slowly thawing.
“Good duel, General Arthur,” Varay said, extending a hand.
I grabbed her arm and allowed her to pull me up to my feet. “As expected, there’s still a gap between us.”
“If you were able to hold that form for an extended period of time, there’s a chance you could’ve overpowered me,” Varay admitted.

In support, Arthur’s raw mana output was measured to be in the ninety-ninth percentile which should place him at a level comparable to other Lances

I quickly gathered the array of papers that were scattered all over the ground behind my fpu measuring artifact—working name.
After carefully placing the panel components into the wooden box, I placed the papers equally carefully on top, noticing Arthur’s name on the top sheet. It was the fpu readings I had managed to gather while he was in that angelic form of his where his hair turned white. I’d thought I had lost it.
I shook my head, crumpling up the sheet of paper. “Ninety-ninth percentile. That can’t be right.”

Since he’s inferior but still comparable to the Lances, I’m proposing that he downscales to 550 Gigatons (Baseline High 6-C+) with Realmheart Physique, up to 2.2 Teratons with Multi-Element Combo
4th Key
Scaling remains the same as what’s currently on his profile. Only change would be the incorporation of Multi-Element Combo into his scaling.
Nico
Scaling remains the same with one addition. His Blood Iron can tank Multi-Element Combo from White Core Arthur

Three were blocked by the black spikes, but one grazed his leg and another hit him squarely in his arm, burning a hole through his limb.
I landed in a forward run, frost accumulating around my arm as I closed in on my opponent.

So he scales to 3.9 Teratons with Blood Iron
Scythes (Except Cadell)
They’re regarded as being much stronger than Nico. This is enough to Warrant an upscale to baseline Low 6-B+ (4 Teratons)
that's pretty much the scaling explanation
Note that everything here is a low-ball interpretation as every character here are noted capable of nuking Mountains

Spinning around, I lifted Jona up by the scruff of his shirt once more and pulled him close. “I’m sorry for your friend, Jona, but pull your head out of your ass. There are enemies out there stronger than you can imagine—stronger than any adventurer you’ve ever worshipped—and you want me to expend all my energy to save everyone here? If I do that, who’s going to stop them? Who’s going to stop the enemy leaders that can level a mountain with a twitch of their fingers?”

Spoiler: Part 2

Even though Mica's Black Hole Creation is as legit as it can be (vetted as such by DMUA too), we (myself and SODAKU) (un)consciously didn't use it in scaling. This thread seeks to address that. First things first, the value of the Black Hole is 731.33 Exatons, since we’re using the least possible value for a black hole.
Obviously, there are A LOT of characters MUCH stronger than Mica but not everyone will be scaling to the technique due to a few reasons

1. The technique isn't exactly a casual attack for her as it involves her condensing gravity mana at a single point for a period of time. It's not something she can casually dole out

Knowing I didn’t have much time, I began condensing gravity into small point ten feet in front of her. Sweat beaded on my forehead and there was a twinge of pain in my mana core as I struggled to contain the force building within that space. Just as she released the destructive orb, I completed casting Singularity.

I had already tried increasing its gravity directly, which hadn't done anything, but thought maybe something a little more powerful might do the trick. Picking a point about halfway between us and the spy cloud, I focused all my energy into casting Singularity.

1. Even when used, her opponents had to use non-conventional methods to get rid of it. Seris “overpowered” it by power nullification:

The translucent field of mana surrounding the Scythe slid away from her, moving to contain the black hole. The shield contracted until it was the same size and shape as my spell, then vanished, taking the Singularity with it. She had somehow nullified my magic.

And Taci was implied to have also power nulled the technique by using his spear

So how are people supposed to scale to Singularity?
The method I'll be using will be via World Eater. Mica herself, described World Eater like this:

MICA EARTHBORN
I floated over the Beast Glades, staring northward. Something in the elven homeland was releasing enormous amounts of mana. I couldn't see it even with enhanced vision, but I could feel it.
The sensation was so overwhelming I didn't even notice Aya fly up to hover at my side until she spoke. "What is it?" "No clue…" We stayed silent, lost in an outpouring of magical power the likes of which we couldn't even imagine. It felt like someone had ripped open the word and pure mana had started flooding in, but from the way it ebbed and flowed, I was sure it was a battle. But who, or what, could be causing it?
Aya suddenly gasped and pressed her hand to her chest. She dropped several feet, so I rushed down to wrap my arm around her, keeping her from plunging down into the forest.
"What's wrong, Aya?"
Her face was pale, her eyes wide and crazed. She was staring past me toward Elenoir, where the color seemed to have been leached from the sky.
Then I felt it, an explosion of mana so intense that it made my heart skip a beat. Holding the elven Lance, I could only watch as a black cloud began filling the white sky. A wall of force and fire was racing across the Elshire forest toward us, consuming everything in its path.
In my arms, Aya began to scream.

Aldir's build up of Mana for World Eater, not even the actual explosion, was described as “enormous”, “overwhelming”, “outpouring of magical power the likes of which we couldn't even imagine”. These descriptions should easily put it well beyond anything Mica has ever witnessed which, fortunately, includes Singularity.
For scaling:
Windsom tanked the explosion of World Eater so the scaling starts from him. However, unlike the original calc which used ISL to get the actual value he tanked, we can’t do the same here. So Windsom’s durability will now be upgraded to baseline Low 5-B via downscaling from the World Eater. So the primary value for scaling would be 433 Exatons.
Scaling pretty much remains the same as what was previously accepted from here on out. Arthur is confirmed to be capable of beating Windsom. Only Cecilia, Aldir, Kezess, and Agrona (aka god tiers) have direct scaling to the primary value

This is the blog showing the changes to the profiles affected by these proposals.

Testarossa002/TBATE Updated Scaling

vsbattles.fandom.com

That's all

 

[Nerd_out6]

i have a couple problems with/comments on this:

1 this whole scale requires Windsom to have tanked the WET but i don't think its explicitly stated that this is the case. at the very least if it were the case you need to provide a statement proving it. if it isn't well just have to wait for the webtoon to confirm.

2 for the mountain statement tho i agree with the scale we could apply this logic to more character's such as Tess who is stated by Ellie to be capable of leveling mountains and we can safely assume Ellie would be referring to the grand mountains as its her only know point of reference and combine that with Tess's feat of beating a retainer and i feel like there's a solid case for a similar scaling.

3 Caera being scaled to Nico doesn't really work given in context Nico not only doesn't want to hurt her but actual requires her help to get sylvia's core to Arthur. so tho they did "fight" for a brief period it wouldn't make any sense in context for Nico to even try and fight her anywhere near his full strength.

4 we should probably add a extra thing about Varay reaching integration stage (we can just say she's far stronger until we get some proper feats during the raid) and its also safe to say Varay is superior to mica and Bairon based on the Chul spar as while the other lances and Chul were all exhausted she wasn't (this doesn't prove she is superior to Chul at the time as it was a 3 v 1 and Chul had a stated stamina issue.)

5 this is way more of a minor nitpick but Kezess isn't the strongest person in the verse. we know from chapter 509 that the reason Kezess hasn't fought Agrona directly is because he's afraid of other stronger races from other universes taking notice of the old world. he's also not the strongest asura in history as confirmed by several dragons such as the i]Inthirah clan head and Kezess himself. plus Fate (also know as the mouth) is way stronger.

overall i think the scales here and up scales in general are fine but with the raid arc on the way a good chunk of this is gonna be outdataed soon.

 

[Testarossa002]

this whole scale requires Windsom to have tanked the WET but i don't think its explicitly stated that this is the case. at the very least if it were the case you need to provide a statement proving it. if it isn't well just have to wait for the webtoon to confirm.

Yes. It's not outrightly stated that Windsom tanked WET.
It was, however, definitely implied and we can derive that conclusion from the statements given.
1. Windsom was supposed to protect Aldir while the latter was prepping WET

Lord Indrath did not smile, but there was a victorious light in his eyes. “You will continue to serve in your role as guide and protector, Windsom, but you will not swing the axe that is to fall. No, there is only one among us who is capable of wielding the World Eater technique.”

From the treeline just outside of the village, a beam of pure mana cut through the sky, aimed at Aldir. Windsom blocked the spell, deflecting it directly at Nico.

2. Windsom was RIGHT by Aldir during the entire encounter with no indication that he moved. In fact, the novel stresses that he was taking care of Nico with the smallest of movements

Behind Windsom, Aldir had closed his eyes—except for the third eye, which never closed—and had his hands held out in front of him, so they intertwined in a complicated gesture.

Windsom hardly moved, just a short, sudden cut of his spear, so fast the eye couldn’t follow. The shockwave carved a mile-long trench in the forest to either side of the village, sending up a cloud of dust that darkened the forest for as far as the eye could see.

Nico responded to Windsom’s attack with a barrage of black spikes. They flew from his hands like javelins, each one unerring. I could hardly track the asura’s spear as he deflected one after another, his motions so fast and precise that he hardly seemed to move.

Black spikes appeared from the shower of hellfire sparks, each launching inward toward Windsom, and each batted away just as quickly. The asura’s steady gaze didn’t even flicker as he made another short diagonal cut.

From the treeline just outside of the village, a beam of pure mana cut through the sky, aimed at Aldir. Windsom blocked the spell, deflecting it directly at Nico.

Windsom threw a seemingly casual strike, and although a huge metal spike appeared to block it, it wasn’t enough. The asura’s blow shattered the metal and glanced across Nico’s shoulder.

3. Arthur (the observer) also made no mention of Windsom teleporting away from there, even though he mentioned "Tess" and Nico teleporting.

My attention jumped from Ellie to Aldir to Tess and Nico, and caught Tess and Nico’s shared gaze, hers uncertain, concerned, and yet not afraid, while he was looking at her almost… tenderly.
Then they were gone, leaving nothing behind but the faint ripple of whatever magic they’d used to teleport away.

4. Even if Windsom was supposed to teleport away, Aldir mentioned that he (Windsom) was carried away from his toying of Nico.

Even so, our failure to destroy the reincarnates had drawn Indrath’s ire. We had not expected that they had any method to teleport away so quickly, and Windsom had gotten carried away toying with the angry, black-haired child. And yet, still, the lord’s wrath fell on me.

for the mountain statement tho i agree with the scale we could apply this logic to more character's such as Tess who is stated by Ellie to be capable of leveling mountains and we can safely assume Ellie would be referring to the grand mountains as its her only know point of reference and combine that with Tess's feat of beating a retainer and i

I also think that, but the calc member who evaluated it thought otherwise. This is why the requirement that characters needing to be in the vicinity of the Great Mountain was given so that the mid-end would be applicable.

Caera being scaled to Nico doesn't really work given in context Nico not only doesn't want to hurt her but actual requires her help to get sylvia's core to Arthur. so tho they did "fight" for a brief period it wouldn't make any sense in context for Nico to even try and fight her anywhere near his full strength.

I'm fine with Caera being downgraded.

we should probably add a extra thing about Varay reaching integration stage (we can just say she's far stronger until we get some proper feats during the raid) and its also safe to say Varay is superior to mica and Bairon based on the Chul spar as while the other lances and Chul were all exhausted she wasn't (this doesn't prove she is superior to Chul at the time as it was a 3 v 1 and Chul had a stated stamina issue.)

There would be a new key for Varay once new feats show up. Plus, new abilities and the likes. That being said, I can reword her justification to her being stronger than Mica and Bairon

this is way more of a minor nitpick but Kezess isn't the strongest person in the verse. we know from chapter 509 that the reason Kezess hasn't fought Agrona directly is because he's afraid of other stronger races from other universes taking notice of the old world. he's also not the strongest asura in history as confirmed by several dragons such as the i]Inthirah clan head and Kezess himself. plus Fate (also know as the mouth) is way stronger.

The current scaling is limited to Volume 11 but I can modify the justification to him being the strongest living Asura

overall i think the scales here and up scales in general are fine but with the raid arc on the way a good chunk of this is gonna be outdataed soon.

Yeah but I'm not really planning anything until after Vol 12 is completed.
Thanks for the input

 

[Korf3ll]

Hello
Releasing this concurrently as the layers thread since one doesn't affect the other plus I'm currently swamped with IRL stuffs

Spoiler: Part 1

This part seeks to apply the mid-end version of this calculation
I asked DMUA and he said that end can be used if there’s sufficient evidence for characters being in close proximity to the Grand Mountains whenever a mountain nuking statement is made.
Arthur noted that a fight between Mica and Olfred would level a mountain.

At the time this statement was made, they were all in close proximity to the Grand Mountains. Which makes the statement perfectly acceptable for the mid-end calc.

163
Since there were two characters the statement was made in reference to, the calc would be divided into two as a safe assumption. Hence, the primary scaling value would be 975 Gigatons.
Bairon, Alea, Aya, Olfred, and Mica
They would all scale to the primary value (975 Gigatons) as the statement was attributed to Olfred and Mica. The Lances (except Varay) were all portrayed as being roughly relative to each other
Varay
Varay is repeatedly and consistently regarded as the most powerful Lance, I’m proposing that she should actually scale to the full value of the feat (1.95 Teratons). She could subdue the attacks of Bairon and Olfred at once with ease


Arthur
Before addressing his scaling in all this, I want to address something else
Multi-Element Combo
Arthur can combine multiple elemental attacks into a single, more powerful attack. He usually shuffles between 3 and 4 elements. He does this combo by either condensing it into a single beam


Or by focusing it into a sword for melee combat


With this in mind, I’m proposing that Multi-Elemental Combo be given a 4x multiplier off his base attacks
Since that’s out of the way, let’s move to actually scaling him
Third Key
Contrary to popular opinion (seen a lot of it on Reddit), Silver Core Arthur isn’t really at the level of the Lances. It’s mentioned by Arthur himself


That being said, he’s not that far behind them when utilizing Realmheart Physique. Bairon displayed some degree of uncertainty when asked if he could defeat Realmheart Physique Arthur

Although useless for scaling since Varay was holding back, she mentioned that there was a chance he could have been holding back

In support, Arthur’s raw mana output was measured to be in the ninety-ninth percentile which should place him at a level comparable to other Lances

Since he’s inferior but still comparable to the Lances, I’m proposing that he downscales to 550 Gigatons (Baseline High 6-C+) with Realmheart Physique, up to 2.2 Teratons with Multi-Element Combo
4th Key
Scaling remains the same as what’s currently on his profile. Only change would be the incorporation of Multi-Element Combo into his scaling.
Nico
Scaling remains the same with one addition. His Blood Iron can tank Multi-Element Combo from White Core Arthur

So he scales to 3.9 Teratons with Blood Iron
Scythes (Except Cadell)
They’re regarded as being much stronger than Nico. This is enough to Warrant an upscale to baseline Low 6-B+ (4 Teratons)
that's pretty much the scaling explanation
Note that everything here is a low-ball interpretation as every character here are noted capable of nuking Mountains

Spoiler: Part 2

Even though Mica's Black Hole Creation is as legit as it can be (vetted as such by DMUA too), we (myself and SODAKU) (un)consciously didn't use it in scaling. This thread seeks to address that. First things first, the value of the Black Hole is 731.33 Exatons, since we’re using the least possible value for a black hole.
Obviously, there are A LOT of characters MUCH stronger than Mica but not everyone will be scaling to the technique due to a few reasons

1. The technique isn't exactly a casual attack for her as it involves her condensing gravity mana at a single point for a period of time. It's not something she can casually dole out

1. Even when used, her opponents had to use non-conventional methods to get rid of it. Seris “overpowered” it by power nullification:

And Taci was implied to have also power nulled the technique by using his spear

So how are people supposed to scale to Singularity?
The method I'll be using will be via World Eater. Mica herself, described World Eater like this:

Aldir's build up of Mana for World Eater, not even the actual explosion, was described as “enormous”, “overwhelming”, “outpouring of magical power the likes of which we couldn't even imagine”. These descriptions should easily put it well beyond anything Mica has ever witnessed which, fortunately, includes Singularity.
For scaling:
Windsom tanked the explosion of World Eater so the scaling starts from him. However, unlike the original calc which used ISL to get the actual value he tanked, we can’t do the same here. So Windsom’s durability will now be upgraded to baseline Low 5-B via downscaling from the World Eater. So the primary value for scaling would be 433 Exatons.
Scaling pretty much remains the same as what was previously accepted from here on out. Arthur is confirmed to be capable of beating Windsom. Only Cecilia, Aldir, Kezess, and Agrona (aka god tiers) have direct scaling to the primary value

This is the blog showing the changes to the profiles affected by these proposals.

Testarossa002/TBATE Updated Scaling

vsbattles.fandom.com

That's all

W overall good upgrade

 

[Bitllin12]

i have a couple problems with/comments on this:

1 this whole scale requires Windsom to have tanked the WET but i don't think its explicitly stated that this is the case. at the very least if it were the case you need to provide a statement proving it. if it isn't well just have to wait for the webtoon to confirm.

2 for the mountain statement tho i agree with the scale we could apply this logic to more character's such as Tess who is stated by Ellie to be capable of leveling mountains and we can safely assume Ellie would be referring to the grand mountains as its her only know point of reference and combine that with Tess's feat of beating a retainer and i feel like there's a solid case for a similar scaling.

3 Caera being scaled to Nico doesn't really work given in context Nico not only doesn't want to hurt her but actual requires her help to get sylvia's core to Arthur. so tho they did "fight" for a brief period it wouldn't make any sense in context for Nico to even try and fight her anywhere near his full strength.

4 we should probably add a extra thing about Varay reaching integration stage (we can just say she's far stronger until we get some proper feats during the raid) and its also safe to say Varay is superior to mica and Bairon based on the Chul spar as while the other lances and Chul were all exhausted she wasn't (this doesn't prove she is superior to Chul at the time as it was a 3 v 1 and Chul had a stated stamina issue.)

5 this is way more of a minor nitpick but Kezess isn't the strongest person in the verse. we know from chapter 509 that the reason Kezess hasn't fought Agrona directly is because he's afraid of other stronger races from other universes taking notice of the old world. he's also not the strongest asura in history as confirmed by several dragons such as the i]Inthirah clan head and Kezess himself. plus Fate (also know as the mouth) is way stronger.

overall i think the scales here and up scales in general are fine but with the raid arc on the way a good chunk of this is gonna be outdataed soon.

Spoiler

The version of the novel on Patreon differs slightly from the version on Tapas (since many descriptions are removed, some of which could have been useful for power scaling but unnecessary for the plot, in addition to correcting typographical errors), and the Tapas version in turn differs from the final ebook version, which includes additional content that isn’t even in webtoon. That is just within the three versions of the novel.


From novel versions to webtoon, some statements, descriptions, and feats vary (for example, in the novel, Arthur creates an attack that splits the sea and surprises Uto and Cylrit. However, this scene is portrayed differently in webtoon, as it shows an attack even inferior to Arthur’s adventurer feat against the Elderwood Guardian).


Many scenes and fights involving Arthur in novels have notable differences compared to webtoon (for example, both the beginning of the fight with Uto and the fight itself are different in novels and webtoon).


In conclusion, if there were any conflict or discrepancy between the webtoon and the novel, Arthur's profile could be divided into two: novel and webtoon.

 

[Testarossa002]

Seems discussions are over
Time to start call staffs

Spoiler

The version of the novel on Patreon differs slightly from the version on Tapas (since many descriptions are removed, some of which could have been useful for power scaling but unnecessary for the plot, in addition to correcting typographical errors), and the Tapas version in turn differs from the final ebook version, which includes additional content that isn’t even in webtoon. That is just within the three versions of the novel.


From novel versions to webtoon, some statements, descriptions, and feats vary (for example, in the novel, Arthur creates an attack that splits the sea and surprises Uto and Cylrit. However, this scene is portrayed differently in webtoon, as it shows an attack even inferior to Arthur’s adventurer feat against the Elderwood Guardian).


Many scenes and fights involving Arthur in novels have notable differences compared to webtoon (for example, both the beginning of the fight with Uto and the fight itself are different in novels and webtoon).


In conclusion, if there were any conflict or discrepancy between the webtoon and the novel, Arthur's profile could be divided into two: novel and webtoon.

I don't think we need to do anything that drastic
The novel is the primary source. We can still use the webtoon and anime to support some stuffs since TM is heavily involved in both

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

This looks good to me, nice work once again

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright.

 

[Testarossa002]

This has been applied and can now be locked
thank you all

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Closing.