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But it's still classified as a weapon correct?
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Even if it is, ichibei's zankpakuto doesn’t have reatsu, so it doesn’t follows reatsu rule. And it being negated by Transcendent reatsu isn’t due to higher ap negating hax, it's likely the characteristics of transcendence reatsu to interfere with concept (for example aizen destroyed a conceptual being and I will make a thread about it, let the ongoing on accepted first)
Ichibei can also take away that intangibility
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I don't really think reiatsu relates since Lille mentions any weapon. I think his intangibillity is just that broken
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Well there's multiple points.
This isn’t complete erasure of physical body in the scans. So yeah, they got low godly without any feat.
Ichibei can be revived as long as someone calls his name or may be his name exists. Which would mean he can be restored even after soul+mind erasure. Since it won't still erase his name.
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Not really. Lillie's claim doesn’t hold any meaning. We saw him literally getting dealt with weapons. By rather far inferior weapons.
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Well if you are talking about nanao, pretty sure it's because almost nobody knew about her weapon except Shunsui
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Are we giving Ichibei another key with Pernida’s arm? Ichibei replaced his own arm with it and used its power to show the past to Yhwach, and sealed away the Almighty. The barrier thing to stop the bullets could had been Pernida’s nerves but shown like that to not spoiled the Mayuri fight. I guess we will never know unless the blu ray has more info on that.
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You are taking lillie's statement too seriously
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Hmmmmm, good point, definitely can incorporate that into his profile somehow, it's a nice sealing/power null. An entire other key for one ability does seem a bit much though, I wonder if there's a way we can include it on the profile maybe with just a tabber on his P&A section, like a "With Pernida" and it's all other abilities + the Pernida sealing?
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Yeah, a tabber in the P&A would work, and you can just list Pernida as optional equipment.
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That works.
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Yhwach (consciously) sleeping been able to fight and know when to wake up to fight his opponents. In that anime original scene Yhwach is sleeping but smiles like he knows what is happening. We also have that incoming waking up before Ichigo arrives with that KS dream in cour 4.
Is any of this a counter-argument for people claiming Yhwach’s ain’t omnipotent because he needs to sleep? Like his power is shown to work even when he sleeps?
Is any of this a counter-argument for people claiming Yhwach’s ain’t omnipotent because he needs to sleep? Like his power is shown to work even when he sleeps?
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@Adam1396 In case if you wanna participate
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Pernida vs Saitama (9-4-1)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Pernida_Parnkgjas https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Saitama#Current Speed equalized Pernida at peak key (multi solar): @Purgy, @Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye, @CastoriceTheFifth @Voidnether, @Robo432343, @Specterxxxx, @Apollonir.Scale, @ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn...
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The first point is incorrect. The physical body was completely erased, as you can see in the sixth panel. You could maybe argue it's High rather then Low-Godly, but that's not that big of a difference. It's also not Mid-Godly.
The second point is assuming too much without proof. By that, I mean that I highly doubt it would get through VSBattles. Either get more scans that support this, or try it yourself and see if it works.
Finally, is this the only example you had for people with Immortality 8 and Mid-Godly, which might I add wasn't even accurate? Because you said there were a lot, and the only example you provided makes it harder to possibly get Squad Zero to Mid-Godly.
Note: If you cannot provide more examples of Imm8 giving Mid-Godly to people with Low-Mid to Mid scans, or actual scans that can give at least somewhat plausible evidence for Squad Zero Mid-Godly, then I'm not going to debate further. In that scenario, once my CRT concludes, make your own Mid-Godly one.
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There's quite a few lose points on your arguments. I am not bothered enough to make a CRT let alone being concerned about what's going on with your thread.
Just letting you know if immortality comes from reliance which isn’t subjected to the characters's erasure, it will get bare minimum low godly to above based on the context, mechanism regardless of their feat.
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Guys need some input here, the OPM supporters mention Bleach's fear hax is only social influencing so being stronger is enough to resist it@Adam1396 In case if you wanna participate
Pernida vs Saitama (9-4-1)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Pernida_Parnkgjas https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Saitama#Current Speed equalized Pernida at peak key (multi solar): @Purgy, @Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye, @CastoriceTheFifth @Voidnether, @Robo432343, @Specterxxxx, @Apollonir.Scale, @ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn...
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No. Better work on layers. That would be more effective to shut them
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Maybe Bleach supporters just don’t care about the spammed Bleach vs OPM matchups
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Maybe Bleach supporters just don’t care about the spammed Bleach vs OPM matchups
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1) spite downgrade threads just won’t go through
2) you reap what you sow
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The reason why no one debates those is that it's the same two characters VS any Bleach god-tier (except for Yhwach because he omega stomps). It's the same shit too, it's "RE gg" vs "Soul Crush gg." It just becomes a pissing contest of Saitama becoming bullshit levels of fast and strong vs hax.
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Dw tho, Pernida have a vote advantage currently
Pernida vs Saitama (9-4-1)
Not sure what you mean by that, can you elaborate pls 🙏 So like, you know how Zaraki was constantly evolving in terms of statistics since childhood or in his fight against Unohana and then Gremmy after? Yeah, and Pernida was able to mimic those and eventually win against Zaraki despite Gremmy...
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To be fair, the reason he does is that he essentially can do the same shit he can. Same with Aizen, except he stomped because of KS and Mid-Godly.Dw tho, Pernida have a vote advantage currently
Pernida vs Saitama (9-4-1)
Not sure what you mean by that, can you elaborate pls 🙏 So like, you know how Zaraki was constantly evolving in terms of statistics since childhood or in his fight against Unohana and then Gremmy after? Yeah, and Pernida was able to mimic those and eventually win against Zaraki despite Gremmy...
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You can vote in the thread if you want, most people were leaning towards Pernida
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Why wasn't this match added to the profiles? Was it forgotten or was it considered invalid for another reason?
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Yhwach Vs Madoka Kaname [9-0-0] [GRACE]
Mustache Man vs Pastel Nihilism 5-C keys used for both yhwach cant use the almighty Speed is equalized battle takes place in a random wasteland starting distance: 20m Madoka has basic knowledge of yhwachs abilities prior to the fight, however yhwach doesnt. Yhwach: @Lloydblitzed, @MrVenomYTX...
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It was accepted to be a stomp by the OP, so it was shut down and not added to the profiles.
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It was added, then removed since Yhwach is no longer 5-CWhy wasn't this match added to the profiles? Was it forgotten or was it considered invalid for another reason?
Yhwach Vs Madoka Kaname [9-0-0] [GRACE]
Mustache Man vs Pastel Nihilism 5-C keys used for both yhwach cant use the almighty Speed is equalized battle takes place in a random wasteland starting distance: 20m Madoka has basic knowledge of yhwachs abilities prior to the fight, however yhwach doesnt. Yhwach: @Lloydblitzed, @MrVenomYTX...
Versus Thread Removal Requests (New forum)
The match between Vox and Alastor should be removed from the profiles since the fight happened in the show (off screen) and Alastor canonically loses. Really shouldn't be any reason that thread been made in the first place. The OP admits in the thread they were just making the thread to put it...
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Btw, do you think Lille should have unconventional resists to conceptual manip? Since he mentions once he turns intangible, no weapon can harm him which includes Ichibe's brush
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We don't fully understand the context of that statement. It could be assumed like that, but I personally wouldn't because I believe it's contextualized around people who are currently alive, who could possibly strike against Lille. It doesn't make much sense to me that Lille would be discussing characters he believes are dead / doesn't know the current status of their existence or complete capabilities.
Especially since we know his statement doesn't include Shinken Hakkyōken or Shunsui's Bankai, as both sliced through him without issue.
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I mean Nanao's weapon is very unknown that only certain people like Shunsui knows about it. Also, I don't think Bankais can be classified as a weapon
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That proves my point. If he doesn't know about the capabilities or even existence of that sword, his statement isn't all encompassing. It would be up to you to prove that Lille would know the capabilities of Ichimonji, and is specifically discussing the techniques or qualities it possesses that act as Conceptual Manipulation. Not just strikes from the blade in a physical sense.
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Does Yhwach have no chance to spill Ichimonji's capabilities to Lille? Considering Ichibe being a special threat afterall
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That's a claim you have to prove. We can't just assume stuff just because it could possibly be true. We appeal to probabilities, not possibilities.
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The quincies seems to know the general capabilities of their opponents like Yamamoto. At worst, we could give a "Possibly" rating
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You can try. I definitely disagree, but my opinion alone isn't enough to say if something will be accepted or not.
If you can provide a sound and convincing argument, and the mods agree with it. It will be accepted, even if I have issues with it.
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It was base Aizen, so he stomped because of Spiritual Pressure and Kyoka Suigetsu.
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About soul crush, there's actually an ongoing CRT that focuses on Saitama gaining resists to fear hax and some other so he can fight a shinigami according to Kachon
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By the way @Arc7Kuroi, the Ichibei CRT changes haven't been implimented yet. Not trying to rush, just reminding you.
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I’m gonna apply it before the week ends, last weekend was busy for me
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Faster! Those upgrades aren't gonna make themselves! (jk take your time)
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