Tomura Shigaraki Vs Regulus Corneas (My Hero Academia Vs Re: Zero) [13-2-0]

[Ebihara]

The fact that nobody mentioned Regulus being able to catch upto Shigaraki

Only way Regulus would be able to catch up is to use his Authority, and even then Regulus can only go in a straight line.

Your agurements aren't really new people already knew this and was discussed, looks like you didnt read the thread thourghly. Ill keep my vote.

 

[Catbowtie]

Yea…I’ve said before that Shigaraki can just use analytical prediction to aim dodge the **** out of Regulus, on top of being as mobile as Bakugo, so he can freely change trajectory to force Regulus to constantly de-activate and re-activate his Authority to try to catch up.

With un-equalized speed, Shigaraki already blitzes Regulus’ perception and thought processes. When Shigaraki sees Regulus point his hand at him and takes out genuine chunk of his body using matter manipulation without triggering Danger Sense, Shigaraki will have no reason to underestimate Regulus. In fact, Shigaraki can keep track of Regulus wherever he goes with Search to maintain a healthy distance from him.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

The fact that nobody mentioned Regulus being able to catch upto Shigaraki

The previous consensus was literally "it's pick off your OPs wives week!!"

I did though. I was arguing about regulus’ speed being ftl and how shiggy’s travel speed isn’t rela +

 

[AThe1412]

Yea…I’ve said before that Shigaraki can just use analytical prediction to aim dodge the **** out of Regulus, on top of being as mobile as Bakugo, so he can freely change trajectory to force Regulus to constantly de-activate and re-activate his Authority to try to catch up.

With un-equalized speed, Shigaraki already blitzes Regulus’ perception and thought processes. When Shigaraki sees Regulus point his hand at him and takes out genuine chunk of his body using matter manipulation without triggering Danger Sense, Shigaraki will have no reason to underestimate Regulus. In fact, Shigaraki can keep track of Regulus wherever he goes with Search to maintain a healthy distance from him.

Reinhard can do all of the above a hundred times better and he still got hit 4 times despite being faster than Shiggy. Like, are we just going to ignore that? Also...
"Range: Planetary (Regulus was able to toss Reinhard to the Moon[6])"

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Yea…I’ve said before that Shigaraki can just use analytical prediction to aim dodge the **** out of Regulus, on top of being as mobile as Bakugo, so he can freely change trajectory to force Regulus to constantly de-activate and re-activate his Authority to try to catch up.

With un-equalized speed, Shigaraki already blitzes Regulus’ perception and thought processes. When Shigaraki sees Regulus point his hand at him and takes out genuine chunk of his body using matter manipulation without triggering Danger Sense, Shigaraki will have no reason to underestimate Regulus. In fact, Shigaraki can keep track of Regulus wherever he goes with Search to maintain a healthy distance from him.

Does search even work on the guy who’s stopped in time

 

[Catbowtie]

Reinhard can do all of the above a hundred times better and he still got hit 4 times despite being faster than Shiggy. Like, are we just going to ignore that?

My brother in Christ Shigaraki is blitzing Regulus without Authority and Regulus with Authority can only move in a straight line. If this was equal speed then yes Regulus hitting Reinhard would be considered but since his combat speed is so vastly inferior to Shigaraki’s, Regulus’ ability to hit Reinhard doesn’t matter.

Range: Planetary (Regulus was able to toss Reinhard to the Moon[6])

Why does this matter? We’ve already went over that BFR is a win condition for Regulus.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

My brother in Christ Shigaraki is blitzing Regulus without Authority and Regulus with Authority can only move in a straight line. If this was equal speed then yes Regulus hitting Reinhard would be considered but since his combat speed is so vastly inferior to Shigaraki’s, Regulus’ ability to hit Reinhard doesn’t matter.

Why does this matter? We’ve already went over that BFR is a win condition for Regulus.

I would love to see Shigaraki attempt to moon jump back to earth

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

My brother in Christ Shigaraki is blitzing Regulus without Authority and Regulus with Authority can only move in a straight line. If this was equal speed then yes Regulus hitting Reinhard would be considered but since his combat speed is so vastly inferior to Shigaraki’s, Regulus’ ability to hit Reinhard doesn’t matter.

Regulus hitting Reinhard is still considered heavily in this match. Speed equalized legit makes it so that Shigaraki is human level speed while Regulus retains ftl.

Also how long do you think it would take Shigaraki to moon jump back to earth if he ever gets launched there

 

[Catbowtie]

Speed equalized legit makes it so that Shigaraki is human level speed while Regulus retains ftl.

Speed is equalized?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Speed is equalized?

No I purposely didn’t equalize it so regulus doesn’t blitz Shigaraki to hell and back due to shiggy being human level speed

 

[AThe1412]

My brother in Christ Shigaraki is blitzing Regulus without Authority and Regulus with Authority can only move in a straight line. If this was equal speed then yes Regulus hitting Reinhard would be considered but since his combat speed is so vastly inferior to Shigaraki’s, Regulus’ ability to hit Reinhard doesn’t matter.

Yeah, and Reinhard can blitz Regulus if he didn't have his Authority as well? The difference here is that Reinhard and Regulus with Authority are both FTL while Shiggy is Relativistic+. Equal speed would equalize Shiggy to Regulus' speed without Authority, causing the latter to blitz the hell out of him.

Why does this matter? We’ve already went over that BFR is a win condition for Regulus.

You said that Shiggy can keep a safe distance even though Regulus' attacks can reach that far and will just ignore anything in his way.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

If anyone is wondering where his wives are

 

[Catbowtie]

Regulus hitting Reinhard is still considered heavily in this match. Speed equalized legit makes it so that Shigaraki is human level speed while Regulus retains ftl.

It can’t be.

Reinhard being faster doesn’t mean anything because he isn’t blitzing Regulus.

If Reinhard was blitz levels of fast and Regulus still hit Reinhard, that would mean either:

1. Regulus scales to Reinhard’s speed (at best reaction speed) and skill
2. The speed wasn’t actually blitz levels (meaning Reinhard wasn’t using his full speed)
3. A personal failure on Reinhard’s end caused him to get hit
4. An outlier or inconsistency in the story

Saying Regulus can react to a blitz is an oxymoron. Re;Zero fans are trying to have their cake and eat it too. Either Reinhard wasn’t using his full speed or Regulus scales to Reinhard’s full speed and scales to his skill. And no, I’m not about to go in the slop that is Re;Zero skill. Regulus wouldn’t scale anyways.

Yeah, and Reinhard can blitz Regulus if he didn't have his Authority as well? The difference here is that Reinhard and Regulus with Authority are both FTL while Shiggy is Relativistic+. Equal speed would equalize Shiggy to Regulus' speed without Authority, causing the latter to blitz the hell out of him.

Speed is unequal. The speed gap between Regulus with Authority and Shigaraki’s speed is 1.8x (rounded up)

You said that Shiggy can keep a safe distance even though Regulus' attacks can reach that far and will just ignore anything in his way.

Regulus would have to guess where Shigaraki is moving considering that in an urban environment there’s going to be buildings and skyscrapers for Regulus to easily lose track of Shigaraki. With no extrasensory perception to speak off…yea Regulus ain’t finding yet alone hitting Shigaraki anytime soon.

Also Shigaraki aim dodges with AnaPre.

The best chance Regulus has to win is to cut his losses, try to find the wives Shigaraki isn’t after, group them up, and guard them with his life.

 

[Zabazab]

Reinhard being faster doesn’t mean anything because he isn’t blitzing Regulus.

Reinhard blitzes Reinhard multiple times throughout volume 19. Reinhard even weaves through Regulus' danmaku without getting touched once. Regulus hit Reinhard four times total, each time he either prevented Reinhard from dodging, or surprised him.

1. Regulus held his own wives hostage and ordered him to stand still and take one attack, which killed Reinhard.
2. In CQC, Regulus sighed and that sigh blew off Reinhard's leg below the knee.
3. Regulus kicked the afformentioned injured Reinhard, though it was blocked with Ryūken's sheath, sending Reinhard flying outside the district.
4. Regulus trapped Reinhard in an envelope of deadly air, then made himself faster to block off the only escape route, allowing him to crush Reinhard's shoulder with his grip (and then toss him to the moon).

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Reinhard blitzes Reinhard multiple times throughout volume 19. Reinhard even weaves through Regulus' danmaku without getting touched once. Regulus hit Reinhard four times total, each time he either prevented Reinhard from dodging, or surprised him.

1. Regulus held his own wives hostage and ordered him to stand still and take one attack, which killed Reinhard.
2. In CQC, Regulus sighed and that sigh blew off Reinhard's leg below the knee.
3. Regulus kicked the afformentioned injured Reinhard, though it was blocked with Ryūken's sheath, sending Reinhard flying outside the district.
4. Regulus trapped Reinhard in an envelope of deadly air, then made himself faster to block off the only escape route, allowing him to crush Reinhard's shoulder with his grip (and then toss him to the moon).

I thought you said regulus matches are boring

 

[Zabazab]

I thought you said regulus matches are boring

Only commenting to fact-check!

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Tomura beats up Regulus for his lunch money FRA
Also since MHA takes place in our world, how much money do we wanna bet that Tomura's nerd ass has seen Regulus's VS battle profile

Also I think we got like a hour until grace is over

 

[Catbowtie]

Reinhard blitzes Reinhard multiple times throughout volume 19.

Reinhard scales to himself

Regulus held his own wives hostage and ordered him to stand still and take one attack, which killed Reinhard.

By “him” I assume you mean Reinhard. I don’t think I need to explain how this doesn’t mean Regulus scales in any way to Reinhard.

In CQC, Regulus sighed and that sigh blew off Reinhard's leg below the knee.

A nothing burger tbh. It just looks like Reinhard didn’t expect Regulus to use his breath to attack and suffered for it.

Regulus kicked the afformentioned injured Reinhard, though it was blocked with Ryūken's sheath, sending Reinhard flying outside the district.

Key word blocked. So Regulus was unable to land a solid blow on a weakened Regulus.

Regulus trapped Reinhard in an envelope of deadly air, then made himself faster to block off the only escape route, allowing him to crush Reinhard's shoulder with his grip (and then toss him to the moon).

This is just basic tactics on Regulus’ end. Turns out when Reinhard can’t move to avoid damage, he takes damage.

Edit: I know you were just giving context. Not trying to drag you in or anything.

 

[AthelChan]

Tomura beats up Regulus for his lunch money FRA
Also since MHA takes place in our world, how much money do we wanna bet that Tomura's nerd ass has seen Regulus's VS battle profile

Also I think we got like a hour until grace is over

he's reading the profile while playing league.

 

[Catbowtie]

Does Shigaraki canonically play League of Legends or is that a fanmade joke?

 

[koopa3144]

Does Shigaraki canonically play League of Legends or is that a fanmade joke?

Yeah, it's a real thing that he said while talking with Spinner;

 

[Zabazab]

Reinhard scales to himself

Lots of R names. Reinhard, Reid, Rye, Roy, Rui, Regulus, Raizo, Rowan, etc.

Edit: I know you were just giving context. Not trying to drag you in or anything.

Regulus's speed with Lion's Heart still scales to Reinhard because he can shock Reinhard with his speed. I was just saying why his combat speed and ability do not scale.

 

[AthelChan]

Does Shigaraki canonically play League of Legends or is that a fanmade joke?

yes and Mineta likes powerscaling so guys its over for us.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

yes and Mineta likes powerscaling so guys its over for us.

They actually know everything that we put on this wiki

 

[Catbowtie]

Yeah, it's a real thing that he said while talking with Spinner;

That’s actually nuts.

yes and Mineta likes powerscaling so guys its over for us.

I need to see the scan for this

 

[Catbowtie]

They actually know everything that we put on this wiki

I wonder what it would look like from their POV? Of course the MHA verse would straight up not exist, but what would happen to Rusty? Or Damage’s profile picture? Would they move to an in-universe hero forum or something?

 

[Ebihara]

I wonder what it would look like from their POV? Of course the MHA verse would straight up not exist, but what would happen to Rusty? Or Damage’s profile picture? Would they move to an in-universe hero forum or something?

pure tinfoil hat and been a long time since ive read mha, but there gotta be normal people in that verse aruging on fourms all day about what hero could beat what hero and making a wiki out of it.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

pure tinfoil hat and been a long time since ive read mha, but there gotta be normal people in that verse aruging on fourms all day about what hero could beat what hero and making a wiki out of it.

They get added like WWE profiles

 

[Catbowtie]

“No, I SWEAR dude. Prime Deku is multi-continental! I calced it myself! He changed the United States’ weather with a single punch! He’s easily stronger than your favorite verse”

 

[AthelChan]

I need to see the scan for this

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Lots of R names. Reinhard, Reid, Rye, Roy, Rui, Regulus, Raizo, Rowan, etc.


Regulus's speed with Lion's Heart still scales to Reinhard because he can shock Reinhard with his speed. I was just saying why his combat speed and ability do not scale.

Would love if the profiles uses anime clips as scans instead

 

[Ebihara]

picutred: the average vsbw user.

 

[Catbowtie]

Nice to see versus threads running strong a century later.

 

[Zabazab]

Would love if the profiles uses anime clips as scans instead

This would suck. The anime cuts and changes way too much to be viable as a primary source. The anime's only use is clarifying certain things that were less detailed in the novels, like the Divine Protection of Arrow Evasion (which was in the web novel, cut from the light novel, clarified as still being canon, and then added to the anime).

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

This would suck. The anime cuts and changes way too much to be viable as a primary source. The anime's only use is clarifying certain things that were less detailed in the novels, like the Divine Protection of Arrow Evasion (which was in the web novel, cut from the light novel, clarified as still being canon, and then added to the anime).

Or use both anime clips and scans fr

 

[VortechsTG]

Would love if the profiles uses anime clips as scans instead

The anime does not adapt anything. It's more accurate to treat it as it's own thing at this point rather than an adaptation. It changes everything.

 

[Zabazab]

Or use both anime clips and scans fr

EMM does a totally different thing in the anime and novels

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

EMM does a totally different thing in the anime and novels

Anime profiles for re zero fr

 

[VortechsTG]

Back to the point, all Regulus has to do is come within visible range of Shigaraki and carpet bomb everything within sight with ftl attacks like rain or dust. Reinhard was only able to evade that because he is effectively intangible mid-combat. Otherwise, it is physically impossible to dodge that. It doesn't matter if Regulus personally can only move in a straight line when he can react to and set up traps for an FTL skill god of the wiki.

 

[Catbowtie]

Back to the point, all Regulus has to do is come within visible range of Shigaraki and carpet bomb everything within sight with ftl attacks like rain or dust. Reinhard was only able to evade that because he is effectively intangible mid-combat. Otherwise, it is physically impossible to dodge that. It doesn't matter if Regulus personally can only move in a straight line when he can react to and set up traps for an FTL skill god of the wiki.

Explain why Regulus would ever do that when he realizes his wives are in the immediate vicinity.