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Master Moron challenges a Stick Swinger to a duel(Reid Astrea{Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu vs Gen Narumi{Kaiju No.8}) 3-4-0

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Reid Astrea-3
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Gen Narumi(Numbers Weapon Suit)-4

Distance: 1 kilometer
Speed not equalized
Dragon Sword Reid is restricted
Gen has prior knowledge regarding the Speed and AP gap
 
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Reid just snipes from that distance while either dodging or cutting all of Gen's attacks, he is vastly superior in skill.
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
he will just create a new optimal way of cutting the world from the range in such a way that it becomes undodgable


he could also close in the distance casually
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Gen has Resistance to Information Analysis so it will probably take awhile for Reid to do that, plus Gen can also attack the latter with his projectiles while he's dodging and/or use a flashbang to temporarily stun him.

Hmm, it's hard to say if whether Reid getting closer would actually help him or not
 
MysticBrawler said:
Gen has Resistance to Information Analysis so it will probably take awhile for Reid to do that,
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The reasoning for it is the same as Elsa vs Garfiel both of whom are so below Reid they could train for an eternity and not reach his level
MysticBrawler said:
plus Gen can also attack the latter with his projectiles while he's dodging and/or use a flashbang to temporarily stun him.
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he can dodge the rain, noway are projectiles hitting him. Elsa could target her opponents vitals when all of her senses were cut off and her mind was floating in a void, just flashbanging Reid wouldnt do anything (not to mention he could just cut the concept of light from the flashbang anyway)
MysticBrawler said:
Hmm, it's hard to say if whether Reid getting closer would actually help him or not
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its an instant win for Reid since it will become impossible for Gen to dodge at all

Actually thinking about it, even an untrained Emilia could dodge perception blitzing danmaku attacks by reading her opponents intent. Reid scales well above that so it would be hard to argue Gen being able to dodge that
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
The reasoning for it is the same as Elsa vs Garfiel both of whom are so below Reid they could train for an eternity and not reach his level
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No offense, but how is this related to Gen having Resistance to Information Analysis? Cause my point was simply that Reid won't be able to do that right away since he won't be able to Analyze Gen in this fight.
SatellaTheWoE said:
he can dodge the rain, noway are projectiles hitting him. Elsa could target her opponents vitals when all of her senses were cut off and her mind was floating in a void, just flashbanging Reid wouldnt do anything (not to mention he could just cut the concept of light from the flashbang anyway)
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It seems unlikely that Reid could dodge it as Gen has this:
Yeah I suppose Reid could counter the flashbang with his Conceptual cutting.
SatellaTheWoE said:
its an instant win for Reid since it will become impossible for Gen to dodge at all
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Reid doesn't have Danmaku so I fail to see why Gen wouldn't be able to dodge his attacks when Reid won't even be able to use his Analytical Prediction in his fight.
SatellaTheWoE said:
Actually thinking about it, even an untrained Emilia could dodge perception blitzing danmaku attacks by reading her opponents intent. Reid scales well above that so it would be hard to argue Gen being able to dodge that
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Same as above.
 
MysticBrawler said:
No offense, but how is this related to Gen having Resistance to Information Analysis? Cause my point was simply that Reid won't be able to do that right away since he won't be able to Analyze Gen in this fight.
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If Garf has an ability on the same level then Reid wouldn't even have to think once to counter it, it wouldnt be effective on him.
MysticBrawler said:
It seems unlikely that Reid could dodge it as Gen has this:
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I was under the impression that speed was equalized but it isnt...which means Reid just blitzes past this
MysticBrawler said:
  • Gen’s inescapable attacks are capable of landing on opponents like the Daikaiju of the Meireki, who can easily catch his and Soshiro's fastest attacks, and react to a punch from Berserk Kaiju No. 8, whose is stated to be an ace greater than the Variant Squadron-Style Combat Technique
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Dodging undodgable attacks is the norm in ReZero, from Elsa dodging a room blowing up without exiting it to Ram dodging invisible air bombs in a narrow room, to Yorna forcing Olbart into a position where its physically impossible to dodge and him dodging it anyway. To the transcendents who can casually dodge rain in a rainstorm, sand in a sandstorm and even mists of light with some difficulty
MysticBrawler said:
Yeah I suppose Reid could counter the flashbang with his Conceptual cutting.

Reid doesn't have Danmaku so I fail to see why Gen wouldn't be able to dodge his attacks
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He is so much faster he could launch danmaku from the starting position, also due to his travel speed he would be on top of gen in 0.000364431487 seconds

Literally get to him in an instant
MysticBrawler said:
when Reid won't even be able to use his Analytical Prediction in his fight.
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this is just blatantly false lmao
 
Well, this is now a thing.

Reid can easily one-shot Gen with practically anything in his arsenal and Gen can’t do much to block them given his opponent’s haxes

With RT-0001, speed gap is the least of Gen’s problem. Ironically, Gen has consistently dodge attacks from an opponent around similar speed Reid’s FTL, even at point-blank range, whilst having to save an ally and being High Hypersonic+ thanks to precog, and that was when the creature was passively disrupting his precog and has good enough senses that Gen ability to see the world frozen barely faze it. Kikoru, someone weaker/slower and less inexperienced than Gen, could react to and interrupt attacks from True Form Meireki, a near FTL+ (if I knew about upscaling, the character legitimately could have been there) when accordingly she was 83.8% or High Hypersonic and even when her stats drops to 51.3% or Subsonic
 
KobsterHope07 said:
Well, this is now a thing.
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Yeah, unfortunately this matchup is the only I could think of at the moment for Gen, as the combination of him being highly skilled and having strong hax means that he just ends up either stomping or getting stomped by most characters in the High 6-B and 6-A tiers.
 
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SatellaTheWoE said:
this is just blatantly false lmao
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Gen has Resistance to Information Analysis and Analytical Prediction, and as far as I can tell no one in Re Zero has layered Information Analysis so Reid upscaling from the rest won't change the fact that it wouldn't work on the former.
 
MysticBrawler said:
Gen has Resistance to Information Analysis and Analytical Prediction, and as far as I can tell no one in Re Zero has layered Information Analysis so Reid upscaling from the rest won't change the fact that it wouldn't work on the former.
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Layering is not required for AnaPre nor IA.

Layering only exist for abilities whose potency cant be determined due to their esotheric nature
 
KobsterHope07 said:
Well, this is now a thing.

Reid can easily one-shot Gen with practically anything in his arsenal and Gen can’t do much to block them given his opponent’s haxes

With RT-0001, speed gap is the least of Gen’s problem. Ironically, Gen has consistently dodge attacks from an opponent around similar speed Reid’s FTL, even at point-blank range, whilst having to save an ally and being High Hypersonic+ thanks to precog, and that was when the creature was passively disrupting his precog and has good enough senses that Gen ability to see the world frozen barely faze it. Kikoru, someone weaker/slower and less inexperienced than Gen, could react to and interrupt attacks from True Form Meireki, a near FTL+ (if I knew about upscaling, the character legitimately could have been there) when accordingly she was 83.8% or High Hypersonic and even when her stats drops to 51.3% or Subsonic
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unfortunately this doesnt work, previously Ram in Re:Zero had a similar feat but that has been removed due to the fact that its physically impossible to do

its more than likely that gen himself scales to those speeds
MysticBrawler said:
Gen has Resistance to Information Analysis and Analytical Prediction, and as far as I can tell no one in Re Zero has layered Information Analysis so Reid upscaling from the rest won't change the fact that it wouldn't work on the former.
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you cant layer or resist it, it used to exist but was also removed from the profiles due to it being a potency thing rather than a hax


i stated above but Garfiel had the same exact feat, no attack works on Elsa either once she has seen it, even if you danmaku spam it but he still overcame it and he oculd train for an eternity and never reach Reid's level of potency in skill
 
First_Witch said:
Layering is not required for AnaPre nor IA.

Layering only exist for abilities whose potency cant be determined due to their esotheric nature
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SatellaTheWoE said:
you cant layer or resist it, it used to exist but was also removed from the profiles due to it being a potency thing rather than a hax

i stated above but Garfiel had the same exact feat, no attack works on Elsa either once she has seen it, even if you danmaku spam it but he still overcame it and he oculd train for an eternity and never reach Reid's level of potency in skill
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Ok, my point still stands though as aside Reid no one in the cast has resistance to Information Analysis so not only does Reid have nothing to upscale to in that regard, he also has no experience fighting a character with Resistance to Information Analysis.
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
unfortunately this doesnt work, previously Ram in Re:Zero had a similar feat but that has been removed due to the fact that its physically impossible to do
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"It's physically impossible to do" as if we don't have hundreds of profiles that do the same thing.
First_Witch said:
Layering is not required for AnaPre nor IA.

Layering only exist for abilities whose potency cant be determined due to their esotheric nature
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Satella do you know what resistance to AnaPre is supposed to mean?
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
unfortunately this doesnt work, previously Ram in Re:Zero had a similar feat but that has been removed due to the fact that its physically impossible to do
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Is that the infamous skill, talent and intuition feat shtick where a human girl of human girl stats dodge a supersonic cat berserk monster thing that I heard about or something along that line.

If so, I believe there is difference as this is via precog and Gen is not at the level of an average man
 
KobsterHope07 said:
Is that the infamous skill, talent and intuition feat shtick where a human girl of human girl stats dodge a supersonic cat berserk monster thing that I heard about or something along that line.
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its the incarnation of the oni god, in her oni form while nerfed to human stats dodging a beastified Garfiel's attacks via intuition, skill and talent.
KobsterHope07 said:
If so, I believe there is difference as this is via precog and Gen is not at the level of an average man
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She also has precognition

Btw that feat would now be dodging 1603896.104x via skill due to the powercreep (this is the lowest possible value)

Reid would obviously upscale
 
KobsterHope07 said:
With RT-0001, speed gap is the least of Gen’s problem. Ironically, Gen has consistently dodge attacks from an opponent around similar speed Reid’s FTL, even at point-blank range, whilst having to save an ally and being High Hypersonic+ thanks to precog, and that was when the creature was passively disrupting his precog and has good enough senses that Gen ability to see the world frozen barely faze it. Kikoru, someone weaker/slower and less inexperienced than Gen, could react to and interrupt attacks from True Form Meireki, a near FTL+ (if I knew about upscaling, the character legitimately could have been there) when accordingly she was 83.8% or High Hypersonic and even when her stats drops to 51.3% or Subsonic
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Could provide scans please?

The profile is kinda long, so I can't find where this feats happens.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Could provide scans please?

The profile is kinda long, so I can't find where this feats happens.
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The Kaiju in question is Meireki

In Chapter 116, Gen Narumi is shown able to consistently react to and dodge attacks from the Meireki Kaiju, from thought based attacks/paralysis to its teleportation, just overall gunning the Kaiju down while it plays defensively. In Chapter 119, Gen, after taking quite a drop in stats btw, realizes that despite consistently precog the Kaiju, he is having trouble landing attacks that he is certain should have been surehits/inescapable attacks that shouldn’t be blocked, and realizes that the Kaiju is passively interfering with his precognition, but after deducing the reasons Gen decides to lock in and from that point on, Gen is began to overwhelm the Kaiju heavily to where the Kaiju has to legit wait and outlast Gen’s assault until Gen’s body can no longer take it despite thought-based attacks or teleportation.

And this Gen came from a previous battle with Kaiju No. 11 in Chapter 86-88 and had to run like 40 kilometers afterwards through a hordes of Kaiju with little time to rest before engaging in this fight despite broken bones and brain damage

In Chapter 47, it is stated that Gen does not get faster when using RT-0001, rather he is just attacking his foes before they move.

In Chapter 123, Gen Narumi believes that Kikoru, who is stated in Chapter 125 to be inexperienced, can help the MC with an even faster Meireki (True Form) than the one he was dealing with. In Chapter 125, it is shown that Kikoru”s stats were draining far too quickly due to the immense stress and inexperience, yet despite taking a direct hit, she went back to helping Kafka get around the Kaiju’s attack by intercepting its attacks
 
I mean if its allowed for skill stuff to precog speed then Ram's stuff would be legit too...which means Reid could dodge attacks 1.6 million times faster??
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
I mean if its allowed for skill stuff to precog speed then Ram's stuff would be legit too...which means Reid could dodge attacks 1.6 million times faster??
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Satella the skill feat you're referring to straight up can't be used in versus battles.
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Enough of this shit. Both authors smoke pot before writing so stop comparing dick sizes and impossible things that cannot be written off as "it's fiction" and analyze what's normal about them
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the most normal thing about Reid is that he likes women and boobs (same frfr)
 
And Gen is a manchild whose only redeeming quality is slaying kaiju and would rather priorities video games, action figures and followers on social media over his responsibilities as Captain
 
MysticBrawler said:
It seems unlikely that Reid could dodge it as Gen has this:
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It seems that Gen's Homing Attack has been changed to this:
 
Is the stat gap not absolutely gargantuan? I don't see any dura neg beyond the limited one, so tell me if I missed it.
 
Zabazab said:
Is the stat gap not absolutely gargantuan? I don't see any dura neg beyond the limited one, so tell me if I missed it.
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No that is the one, and apparently it allows Gen to damage High 6-A characters so I think it can work here.
 
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